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Creative Production => Competitions & Activities => Topic started by: Andail on Wed 14/04/2004 18:53:42

Title: from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Andail on Wed 14/04/2004 18:53:42
You're the lead computer artist in your game company. The concept artist has just sent you his newest sketch. Now it's up to you to make something useful out of it.

Basically you may change it however you like, alter the style or remove parts. Just colour it or make a brand new piece of art.

The concept sketch for these two weeks is:

http://esseb.com/andail/concept.jpg (http://esseb.com/andail/concept.jpg)

Deadline: End of April
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Vel on Wed 14/04/2004 19:04:51
That competition idea seems cool, but can we have a whiter version of the sketch please?
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Nacho on Wed 14/04/2004 19:14:14
I don't see the problem, Vel, as the wiser way to make what Petter demmands should be using that painiting as the basic layer and go on over that... the darkness is no problem, and you cann allways make it brighter with your Painting program...

I am going to participate!
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: ElectricMonk on Wed 14/04/2004 19:17:24
There ya go, Andail... just cranked up brightness and contrast.

http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/whiterconcept.jpg (http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/whiterconcept.jpg)
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Andail on Wed 14/04/2004 20:50:27
Ok, as I said, it's up to you what to do with it...

Usually when colouring a piece it can be handy to have some sort of soft underlying hue to easier apply highlights and shadows afterwards, and to make sure no area has those annoying white glitches. Not necessarily as dark as mine was, though,

Thanks ElectricMonk, though, for showing your version.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Wed 14/04/2004 21:05:40
I may give it a go(if you remember Andail, i once coloured one of your sketches?) time permitting
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: ElectricMonk on Wed 14/04/2004 23:04:51
Erm, I meant "Here you go, Vel", not Andail. It wasn't meant to be a "version" as such...
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Migs on Wed 14/04/2004 23:58:13
http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/music8/whiterconcept.jpg
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Inkoddi on Thu 15/04/2004 00:10:36
Migs, that's just teh greatest :o!!11

(Isn't that the town from Tulle's world 3?)
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: DanClarke on Thu 15/04/2004 00:27:14
im gonna geve this one a go i think  ;D
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: big brother on Thu 15/04/2004 01:13:34
I must say I have to give Migs props for his fast response time. With a colorizer like Migs on your team, you'll have a full-length adventure game done in no time. None of this dawdling business and slaving over drawings pixel-by-pixel.

It's always good to see what industry calls, "a quick start."

Hats off to you, Migs.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: MrColossal on Thu 15/04/2004 05:09:04
this is a thread ment for the competition, please don't take it too off topic

i'm working on one but i don't know how i'm gonna do it...

we'll see
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Scummbuddy on Thu 15/04/2004 05:12:56
http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/mi5concept.jpg

http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/mi5concept2.jpg

can anyone guess what style i was going in. it shouldnt be hard, although I did leave out a key thing in the sky that would give it away.
This is more like a preview of colors then a functional background, so I will take this another step if I have time.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: AGA on Thu 15/04/2004 12:54:53
Also guys, could you please LINK to your images, instead of posting them in the thread. It's hell on us dialup users.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Damien on Thu 15/04/2004 15:31:53
Here's mine:

1st version (http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Damien_C.PNG)
This is the unfinished version without rock texture, etc.

Sorry for not puting it in a link, but It's only 13kb anyway.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Andail on Thu 15/04/2004 19:40:44
Very well done so far, guys!

It's nice to see the progress of the images, it's after all an educational activity and not primarilly a contest. I hope to see many step-by-step tutorials afterwards :)
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Damien on Thu 15/04/2004 20:38:03
1st version (http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Damien_C.PNG)
2nd version (http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Damien_CV2.PNG)

And here is the final version:
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Damien_CV3.PNG)

BTW: Made with mspaint & IrfanView
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Ben on Sat 17/04/2004 00:54:45
Click! (http://img30.photobucket.com/albums/v89/smind/andailbg.gif)

Colored in Paint Shop Pro.. Background layer is plain white, colors are on another layer, and the outline is in a layer on top of that with a multiply blending mode..
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Domino on Sat 17/04/2004 00:56:56
Ben,

Yours was AMAZING!! It looks great.

Nice Job.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Blackthorne on Sat 17/04/2004 02:41:41
Wow, I really like everyone's work so far.  I decided to give this a go. This isn't finished, but I figured I'd share my progress.

My Work In Progress...... (http://members.lycos.co.uk/gelbon/ConceptEdit.jpg)
The same image in 640x400 res (http://members.lycos.co.uk/gelbon/conceptedit640.jpg)

Blackthorne
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Matt Frith on Sat 17/04/2004 12:09:47
Nice Job Ben  ;D looks like concept art for a game

Looking good so far BlackThorne, cant wait for the final version.
This is really good how everyone has coloured the original in their own stlye, each one different.

Personally, I prefer the cartoon style like Damiens.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Phemar on Sun 18/04/2004 08:17:14

Wow, I'd vote for Damiens one.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Pessi on Sun 18/04/2004 10:15:47
Rock on, Ben! That's fantastic! Totally rockin.

I like the watercolor look in Blackthorne's image. Waiting to see the finished product.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Sun 18/04/2004 11:28:31
no way as awesome as Bens but I'm happy with it :)

http://www.btinternet.com/~ctswin/custard.PNG
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: .. on Sun 18/04/2004 12:00:32
Are you allowed to redraw the background in a diff style and then color it?
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Damien on Sun 18/04/2004 12:01:52
QuoteBasically you may change it however you like, alter the style or remove parts. Just colour it or make a brand new piece of art.
I guess so.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Kweepa on Sun 18/04/2004 12:15:01
Quote from: Scuthbert on Sun 18/04/2004 12:00:32
Are you allowed to redraw the background in a diff style and then color it?


Absolutely. Concept art hardly ever survives intact.
For a start, the dimensions of this piece are all wrong for a game.
It's probably too sketchy for most games.
Etc.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Minimi on Sun 18/04/2004 12:50:06
Damien your background is sooo awesome! It should be the winner already, i.m.o. !!
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Pessi on Sun 18/04/2004 13:02:28
Could you explain the dimension issue further, Steve McCrea? I'm just curious because I think the image would serve pretty well as an entrance screen to the town. You get a good overall view of the town and you know where you're coming from.

However, I think this was used more than just as an entrance screen in Tulle's World but I might be wrong.

Anyway, I don't see what's all wrong about it.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Andail on Sun 18/04/2004 15:09:45
Quote from: Minimi on Sun 18/04/2004 12:50:06
Damien your background is sooo awesome! It should be the winner already, i.m.o. !!

Did I say there was a winner? I think it would be hard; all contributions so far have been great, and as the resident educationalist, I would like to see a competition-free thread for once.

And SteveMcCrea...those were some big words :) Perhaps you meant it doesn't look like an ordinary, conventional room? Well all scenes in a game can't be square rooms seen straight from the front.
Cause if you take a look at Ben's version, which is one of the best backgrounds I've seen in a good while, I can tell you right now that it will work darn well for a game :)

Pessi:
This will probably be an entrance scene. However you - and I think it was inkoddi - were right in a way; a similar scene was used in tw3, and it still features the same town.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Kweepa on Sun 18/04/2004 15:21:17
Don't get me wrong - I like the sketch.
All I meant was that it's not 320x200 or 640x400!
You can put down those weapons now :)

I think it would make an awesome MI2-town-style room if extended to the right...
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Sun 18/04/2004 15:21:54
Andail is right, we don't need to turn this into a contest.

We can just participate, do mini tutorials and the such and eventually improve our art.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Andail on Sun 18/04/2004 15:36:24
Steve, ok, no problem  :)

Still, the dimensions would work great if the background scrolled a little when the player came from the bottom edge walking upwards, wouldn't they?

Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Kweepa on Sun 18/04/2004 15:46:49
Yup!
In that case I'd probably extend the pic down even further so that the town wasn't visible at all before the scroll. Just to add to that "reveal" feeling.

I was trying to encourage something other than paintovers. Not that the paintovers in this thread aren't great, but I'd like to see some interpretations! Anyway, I'll bugger off now. It's not my competition and I don't have time to compete. :)

Cheers,
Steve
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Damien on Sun 18/04/2004 16:29:33
Thanks for the positive feedback.

I agree with Andail and Privateer, this shouldn't be a competition, but a way to improve ourselfs and if someone makes a tutorial along the way, even better.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Migs on Tue 20/04/2004 01:28:29
Okay, here's version 2 of my background.

I know, everyone's going to want a tutorial for this.  I promise I'll make one soon.

Version 2 (http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/music8/whiterconceptv2.jpg)
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Domino on Tue 20/04/2004 02:10:42
Okay Migs, if i get sued by Donald Trump it's your fault.

But, You're Fired.  :)

sorry.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Tue 20/04/2004 14:24:45
I'm [very slowly] working on this when I get the chance ...

I'm not sure I'll have time to finish it before this topic goes the way of the dodo so I thought I'd post an WiP shot:

Image removed ... see my next post

I hope I can finish this.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Nacho on Tue 20/04/2004 15:22:26
Mmmm... DarthMandarbish... mmmmmm... I hope to work with this guy some day...  :)
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Kweepa on Tue 20/04/2004 17:32:51
Me too, eh Darth?  ;)
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Andail on Tue 20/04/2004 19:33:29
It looks great, Darth!

I highly enjoy seeing the different styles people have displayed here....this makes me proud being an AGS patron!
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Blackthorne on Wed 21/04/2004 03:51:20
Here's the latest iteration of my background..... probably one more pass on some detail work, and I'll be done.  But I'll tell you, I've had fun doing this.

(http://members.lycos.co.uk/gelbon/whiterconcept.jpg)

Blackthorne
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Evil on Wed 21/04/2004 04:47:06
Almost done.

(http://www.fbc-bettendorf.com/evil/crap/midevil_mill3.gif)
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Wed 21/04/2004 06:00:49
Original WiP shot (http://www.twin-design.com/ags/graphics/concept.gif)

Finished Piece ...
(http://www.twin-design.com/ags/graphics/concept2.gif)

Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: remixor on Wed 21/04/2004 06:04:36
Quote from: Evil on Wed 21/04/2004 04:47:06
Almost done.

That's quite awesome.  The wall in particular is great.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Blackthorne on Wed 21/04/2004 06:15:11
Mandarb,

  You suck!  Hehe.  It looks awesome.....really cool.

Bt
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Ben on Wed 21/04/2004 17:05:01
Very kickass, Darth  ;) . I like the colors. The gray buildings against the brioght grass and sky make it looks like a creepy deserted town. And the trees look great..

I'll borrow Remixor's avatar here, because it seems appropriate:
(http://www.idlethumbs.net/chris/chris60.jpg)
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: MrColossal on Wed 21/04/2004 17:56:24
i'm angry.... i can't figure out how to do the grassy bank... i've attempted and reattempted it over and over again and it always looks like teh p00... so sadly i may end up cropping it which would mean getting rid of the water....argh!
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Andail on Wed 21/04/2004 18:22:55
Bummer, Mr C!

Just remember this isn't a competition, so you could just show us what you've got so far.

- And be remembered forever as a quitter.
But hey.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Gilbert on Thu 22/04/2004 03:15:37
Moreover, I think it's just a concept art for reference, you don't need to follow exactly the original details, so Mr. C., that means you can make it without the grass actually.

Andail, Right?
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: MrColossal on Thu 22/04/2004 03:54:58
but but but.... i want to be awesome and draw the whole thing!!

WAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Gilbert on Thu 22/04/2004 04:11:10
Why? You can change details or even draw more.

Like, for example, change all the grass to iron needles.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Ghormak on Thu 22/04/2004 09:26:04
I made one Achtung Franz style:

(http://www.agagames.com/ghormak/concept.gif)

I thought I'd put the mailman in there too to balance the whole thing.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Thu 22/04/2004 09:36:12
/me giggles

good work
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Gilbert on Thu 22/04/2004 10:20:59
/me giggles too!

Yay that's what you'll see of Andail's bg in AF!
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Andail on Thu 22/04/2004 10:30:44
That's a very profound interpretation, Ghormak, I can cearly discern the allusion to the contemporary discourse of dialectical materialism.

If this was a competition, the other contributions would hardly stand a chance against such a master-piece.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Nacho on Thu 22/04/2004 11:41:00
Here it is my unfinished attempt  :(

I know that the deadline is far, but I have grades and I know that I won't (I shouldn't) put much effort, so... I post this for you to figure how does Petter's image in a "goofy" plain colors style.

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/ConceptToBgFarl.gif)

I did this in one hour of work, the following to Petter's first post... when I see it I have a feeling shame for not finishing it.  :'(
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Andail on Thu 22/04/2004 20:59:25
looks promising, Nachos, but that kind of technique gains so much from being complete...it would be great to see it finished.

But since you have done the outlining, perhaps someone else could pick it up where you left it?
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Haddas on Sat 24/04/2004 17:16:34
Here is my extremely late entry, done entirely in Haddas style!
(http://img29.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Haddas/Critiscism%20objects/wcbg.jpg)
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: on Sun 25/04/2004 17:54:10
I prefer to think of it as 'stylized'.

(http://www.geocities.com/kamelion51/town.txt)
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Pessi on Mon 26/04/2004 18:15:43
Here's my try:

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/PesConceptFinal.jpg)

I used Photoshop CS and it took a couple of hours. Basically I tried not to concentrate on details but on the big picture. Didn't succeed so well in the perspective as it's not very calming to look at. Looks like the buildings were on downhill. Oh well, it was good practice.

By the way, Eric, when will you get yours finished? I can't wait. :)

Here are some progress shots.

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/PesConcept01.jpg)

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/PesConcept02.jpg)

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/PesConcept03.jpg)

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/PesConcept04.jpg)

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/PesConcept05.jpg)

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/PesConcept06.jpg)
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: TheDude on Mon 26/04/2004 19:05:08
That's great Pessi! I need to learn how to colour with my wacom and your progress shots will help, block in the main colours first and all that...
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: MrColossal on Tue 27/04/2004 01:06:16
I don't think I can finish... I'll just crop it for now and post it... stupid grass!!! RRRRRR!!

bah... I kinda lost interest in it because I'm silly and whatnot...

I like the buildings but the windows suck and SHUT UP GRASS! I HATE YOU!

ah well!

(http://sylpher.com/kafka/junk/concept5.jpg)
(http://sylpher.com/kafka/junk/concept5.jpg)

beep
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Moox on Tue 27/04/2004 03:50:30
Eric For President!
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Andail on Tue 27/04/2004 09:43:48
Well, Eric, I like how you turned the grass into a velvet cloth sprinkled with glitter.

Just kidding! The houses are awesome, well done!

Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Haddas on Tue 27/04/2004 14:56:41
Your entries are however not greater than mine or ghormaks
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Vel on Wed 28/04/2004 20:08:39
Wow!!!
Eric, yours is truly magnifficent!
Would you happen to have a hi-res version?
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: MrColossal on Wed 28/04/2004 20:34:35
that's as high as she goes

i started at the same size as andail's sketch but it was too much work so shrunk it
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: LGM on Wed 28/04/2004 21:52:25
I was just considering on entering.. And then I saw your post Eric.. You really are the r0x0r..

In the words of Esseb: "eric's better than me."

But I think I'll enter anyways.. Cause I need practice.
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: MrColossal on Wed 28/04/2004 22:01:38
awe damn! in my haste to post it i messed it up

the green trees in the background are just flat green and they kinda stop at the tower with the hook...

oh well
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Minimi on Thu 29/04/2004 23:21:38
Quote from: MrColossal on Wed 28/04/2004 22:01:38
and they kinda stop at the tower with the hook...
well... it's gotta end somewhere!?
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Duzz on Fri 30/04/2004 00:44:50
Quote from: MrColossal on Wed 28/04/2004 22:01:38
the green trees in the background are just flat green and they kinda stop at the tower with the hook...
yeah, and one of your trees has a chimney eric. Hang your head in shame  >:(
Title: Re:from concept picture to functional background
Post by: rtf on Sat 01/05/2004 15:47:34
BEST "FROM CONCEPT ART TO FUNCTIONAL BACKROUND" EVAH!!
Title: Re: from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Hollister Man on Mon 03/05/2004 05:08:41
Wow, I gotta work in this thread, but not now...lol...My problem is composition, making good looking background layouts before the "pixel art" ever really begins.

EDIT----
Now someone should make eric's BG animated!  Great work (I'd just spray paint the grass with a scatter brush in photosoap with the saturation and brightness randomized, then lighten and darken areas as you see fit.)
Title: Re: from concept picture to functional background
Post by: Andail on Mon 03/05/2004 10:49:02
actually, the deadline was the end of april, so...
of course everybody can still have a go at the sketch, but this thread isn't needed anymore, since I'm gonna make a gallery of the bg:s we've got so far.

Thank you for a very interesting and well performed activity :)