Activity allowed by moderator Gilbot:
Thanks to the interest shown by people after the X-prite jam towards a possible MI remake, I have been allowed to post a concept art of Mêlée Island, for looking for people interested in becoming colorist of this project.
Restrictions: You'll be the future colorist, so, if you feel like capable to make all the game in 640X400, go ahead. If no, multiply the size by 0.5. I am looking for CMI style, so, google for CMI screenshots or Paco Vink's interpretations, but if you feel you can give a different touch, go ahead. Feel free to change some of the lineart, if needed, you are the artist.
Remember, it's a night image. Use the intro screen of MI if you need to.
Alternartive animations. "Snailed clouds" scrolling from the right, as seen in MI intro. Smoke in some of the houses in the chimneys in the town.
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/La_Lore/Melee.jpg)
If the activity succeds, I might need more help (Sprite artists, pencil sketchers...) feel free to PM me, but only when I post about it here, when I consider the people is interested.
And thanks!
EDIT: Posted reference, by Paco Vink, copyrighted stuff, ok? ;) Remember to make the sky cloudless.
(http://www.worldofmi.com/images/comics/3/MI1Comic-01.jpg)
Could you post a larger image for the linework? If some of us choose to go the CMI way, we will need the outlines as final linework for the background. And I definately work better with a huge image, scaling it down when it's ready. Also, some of the detail looks a bit confusing, because the image is so small. The linework looks great, though :).
looks really great, farlander. i'm glad you decided.Ã, ;D
so, i installed my monkey island 3, since i haven't played it for (must be) about 4 years ago, and i quickly remembered how awesome the graphics of this game was. unrivalled.
and so i won't even try to mimic bill tiller. it's just way out of my reach.
i'll leave it to the guys with the wacom tablets.
Quote from: Farlander on Sun 12/02/2006 14:13:14
Alternartive animations. "Snailed clouds" scrolling from the right...
Quote from: Farlander on Sun 12/02/2006 14:13:14
Remember to make the sky cloudless.
How does this make sense again?
Anyway... Are we supposed to just colour the image, or paint a whole new pic? And how long have we got?
The Cloud must be another layer that is going to appear, scrolling from the right, so, no clouds in the background. Alternativelly, the scrolling cloud. Colour the image, but you're allowed to change some of the basic lineart, you are the artist, no matter what the conceptual artist has made, if you can improve, don't hesitate. I expect to finish 2 backgounds per month, so, you have 15 days.
Image in high resolution:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/La_Lore/Melee2.jpg
let's just hope loominous sees this thread.Ã, :-\
edit: i'll give it a go, just for the fun of it, and so we can all laugh at my attempt. ;)
If he sees this he won't probably enter, I am not that lucky... Anyway, try, it will help improving your art.
So are you gonna put up a new pencil sketch up each fifteen days and the guy/girl that colours it the best has his/her version put in the game? Or the guy/girl that wins this is indefinitely chosen for all the bgs?
Well, goodluck with your game.
As said, I am going to act depending on the response of the people...
Please, keep the thread clean, use PMs... :(
I'm definitely entering this, expect my entry in a few days. But how do I submit my entry? By PM or in this topic? ;D
In this topic! We want to see! :D
hey, farlander, i'm also trying this. I'm quite into it already. But it's my first painted backround ever so it'll probably be a joke. :)
EDIT:
Farlander to you mind if i keep a work in progress?
Here is the Monkey Island 1 original background, farlander forgot itÃ, ;D
(http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/6284/miintro1tr.gif)
Please don't laugh at my awful painting skills, it's my first painted background so i need practicing.
I have done the rough brushwork (no texturing and detail).
Well, I'm quite far ahead myself. I have all of the sea, sky, and Melee Town done, and half of the island is done as well. Expect this post to be edited with a finished background soon. :D
Quote from: buloght on Tue 14/02/2006 20:13:30
hey, farlander, i'm also trying this. I'm quite into it already. But it's my first painted backround ever so it'll probably be a joke. :)
Please don't laugh at my awful painting skills, it's my first painted background so i need practicing.
I have done the rough brushwork (no texturing and detail) for the mountain and grass part so far. I have EVERYTHING still to do.
Far from a joke Buloght, I think its quite impressive... WOW! Cant wait to see it finished!
I second that!
Just a little pointer, you should always try and paint onto a neateral colour (grey or greyish colours) as extremes like black and white throw your perception of colour, especially on a computer screen. Looks great though, i too look forward to the finished article!
Quote from: DanClarke on Wed 15/02/2006 19:59:50
Just a little pointer, you should always try and paint onto a neateral colour (grey or greyish colours) as extremes like black and white throw your perception of colour, especially on a computer screen. Looks great though, i too look forward to the finished article!
Thanks dan. I'm willing to learn from guys like you. I have sky and water layers but they were turned off since they're mostly plain still ;D The reason for the dark, i was told to always make the basic shape with the darkest colour first by this artisty guy, especially when its night. Thanks for comment on it!
I don't think I'll be able to enter, let alone apply for a bg job... but I found this around that may give some inspiration. It is a fan art piece by Ian Pointer.
(http://www.lucasstyle.com/images/ags/ian_pointer_map.jpg)
Wow, buloght, great job. ;D I can't wait to see the finished thing. :o :D
Thanks fury ;D Can't wait to see yours. That is amazing scummbuddy!! It inspires me! Wow.
Dan: I completely misunderstood your post. Now I know what you mean! Thanks for the advice! Please tell me more, i want all the knowledge!! ;D
This is what I have so far. It's sort of the rough version, so now i can so now I can start detailing.
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/159/meleeeee3nw.gif)
Am i the only one doing this? Fury, where'sÃ, yours?Ã, :)
Oh, anybody know of some cool sky tutorials?
That's quite allright as far as sky goes. Most excellent, if you will. Maybe the darkness should start fading in earlier though. Lovely image.
that does look lovely, but its not exactly CMI style, i thought thats what you were going for. Its a lovely update of the original BG, and looks great, but its a little too close to the original style for it too be a proiper reake, at least in my eyes.
Lovely work though.
Quote from: Haddas on Fri 17/02/2006 19:23:37
That's quite allright as far as sky goes. Most excellent, if you will. Maybe the darkness should start fading in earlier though. Lovely image.
Thanks haddas :) I see what you mean about the darkness. I'll fix it for the final version.
Quote from: Zooty on Fri 17/02/2006 19:44:46
that does look lovely, but its not exactly CMI style, i thought thats what you were going for. Its a lovely update of the original BG, and looks great, but its a little too close to the original style for it too be a proiper reake, at least in my eyes.
Lovely work though.
Thanks zooty. I'm not really going for CMI style, i'm sort of trying to do my own style-kinda-thing :) This is my first painted background (like i've mentioned about a dozen times ;D ) so i don't really expect to be chosen for the project. There are so many good artists here, i think farlander will choose them if they decide to enter. Comon artists, where you at? ;D
Well, i'm stealing the colours from the original for nostalgia but that's as far as the closeness go, i think. I posted the original pic on the previous page. I'm just using this glorious farlander pencil art to practice :)
Yay! That looks great B :) Very atmospheric. And i think it will really match your characters :)
Well, heres mine then. I don't think its nearly as MIish as buloghts, (great job on that newest version :D) especially since I only recently realized the cliffs were supposed to be grassy. :P but heres the unfinished version, of what I have so far. And check out the stained glass on the church ;D
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Melee2.jpg)
You go Buloght :o WOW
Thats some serious background!
Hey buloght that's realy cool Just try to make clouds like one in CMI..And Zoot the style is perfect you doin't need to make it in CMI style better just improove the original graphics.Because you need to maintain the original MI 1 feel.Not to make new game.That is what we call remake.And Buloght's characters were so Monkey Islandish like reborned one from MI 1 ( that is what are we looking for ).
Farlander keep it up and you buloght esspecialy.Try to make it with the original feel of MI 1Ã, :=
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I have a sky tutorial in my MI-Tutorials download:
http://home.comcast.net/%7Elucasstyle/media/MI-Style_Tutorials.pdf
I've just cleaned up the lineart and made a quick shading test on a small part of the BG.
Here's a sneak preview:
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/DrunkyDuck/MIR01.png)
Of course, those black lines will be gone in the finished version. I wish I could say the same for the current crappyness of my shading.
I think CMI-style kinda sucks balls anyway. I like yours, Buloght :D I think i'd be better to go for MI 1 or 2 style.
I hate the goofy Guybrush from the CMI and that fourth game they made, whatever... (I refuse to acknowledge it as part of the series). Guybush was a sexy beast in the first two (proper) games.
Time to give up again. 8) A word from Fawful, me giving up is cool, this message has been approved by George W. Bush.
Aww, Fawful! Yours was looking good too! Same with Damien.
Thanks kinoko :)
Fury, yours is really good! Much more CMI than mine. Damien nice job on the texture.
Thanks Bullough, your BG is ace and I can't wait to see the next step.
Just one minor thing, I noticed the window reflections are at a 45 (more or less) degree angle.
The thing is, from the viewer's point, the reflections would be right under it's source.
Also, is that the Loom tree in the lineart?
Quote from: Damien on Sun 19/02/2006 15:09:53
Also, is that the Loom tree in the lineart?
Hehehe...
I agree the tree is from loom..
(http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/6613/meleeeee5eb.gif)
here is my latest. Added the milkyway thing. And corrected the reflections on the water (thanks damien) and also added the glow (thanks nikolas ;) )
The houses are also darker and the trees more shaded.
I had help from an artist friend to do the milkyway.
I still need to do the water, i might decide to make it a lot plainer. Also i have to finish the moutain with by making it smoother and adding higlights.
freaking awsome man!i think i'll do one but it wot be near as good as that
The VGA version of Monkey Island is damn near perfect... and we can play it with ScummVM... so why on earth does it need to be remade? All the energy that's going into this could surely be diverted into original projects instead of going to a lot of effort cloning the wheel so to speak ;)
what does it matter , let them have their fun... looks good buloght, as usuall ;)
Looks awesome buloght. I wanna see you finish this and make the MI remake as awesome as it should be! ;D Keep it up!
I've made some progress with the rocks and the foliage, this is a learning process for me so don't expect nothing good.
Like I said before, Pay no attention to the black outlines. ;)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/DrunkyDuck/MIR02.jpg)
Sorry for the .jpg, but I didn't want you to waste your bandwith for this unfinished version.
Hey isn't the true meaning of AGS to be reminded of the great games we all once played...
Don't worry guys, just keep on remaking,...Ã, :)
Okay guys, back to work. Get this baby rolling. We have now an official approval of executive mananger of the world; mister SBsLoVeNiA! (dam dam daaa)
Thank you, thank you,...
*bows down in an exclusive way
NOW GET BACK TO WORK!
;D
personally i'd like to see a remake of CMI in SOMI style
cpage: That might be the best idea i've heard :)
thats good, why not?
Thats really a great idea!
It sounds like an awesome idea, but it'd definitely be hard. MI3 is the longest of the MI games.
Quote from: Fawfulhasfury on Wed 22/02/2006 00:47:05
It sounds like an awesome idea, but it'd definitely be hard. MI3 is the longest of the MI games.
It's defineitely not as long as MI2? And i dont think it's as long as MI1 either?
yeah it is alot shorter then 1 or 2 and it has so much potential
Quote from: Fawfulhasfury on Wed 22/02/2006 00:47:05
It sounds like an awesome idea, but it'd definitely be hard. MI3 is the longest of the MI games.
It's shorter than all the games :-\ I remember completing it with 3-4 hours of gameplay, while mi1, mi2 and mi4 takes alot more.
Thanks scummbuddy for the tutorial, it'll definitely come in handy!! Thanks again.
WOW I missed that tutorial its awsome really nice work!
Just writing to say that you all know that its not my tutorial... I'm just hosting it, so it wasn't lost to the age of the internet.
hey Damien i dont suppose you'd gibe me a copy of your cleaned up line art would you? :-\
Quotehey Damien i dont suppose you'd gibe me a copy of your cleaned up line art would you?
Enjoy. (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/DrunkyDuck/Help/Melee222.gif) Resized to a 4:3 ratio.
(Un)fortunately, I won't be able to finish mine since I'm leaving for 6 months.
Thanks man! I decided to use the original sketch for the lines :-\ I have a version of the bg to show you guys.
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/meleecolor.png)
I made it dark for more of the night feeling so it looks best at fullscreen!
I will do some added animations in the next couple days!
That is awesome. I get a sci-fi feeling from it (mostly thanks to the green sky).
That looks very nice, but the sea is a little too dark - I can barely see it at all.
That looks awesome cpage! Love how you did the mountain especially.
Thanks for the kind words! I am on my computer at work and now it looks all black (my monitor here sucks).
So i see there are a couple of things that need to change,
1 The color of the sky so it doesnt look Sci fi and 2 increase the brightness of the water
Any more suggestions?
It looks a little too "clean". You maybe need to add a few more rocks down the mountainside, as well as roughen up the shores a bit, they still look a bit sharp. I think the sky colour is fine, you just need something to break it up, maybe some clouds?
yeah the clouds will be included in the animations and any ideas about "unsharpening" the shoreline?
I meant the Sci-fi thing as a good thing, but it's mostly because it looks lighter closer to the horizon, like a giant spaceship with green lights was out of sight. Also you make the transition from light to dark much more fluently on the right side than on the left, which makes the left side look like the dark part of land was much further away and the middle thing was a peninsula of sorts.
Hello dear Monkey Island accollites. Make my game! Just kidding! ;)
The experiment is going quite good! great backgrounds.
Now It's time to be honest. The game would probably be monkey 1.5, not a remake. IMO Monkey Island 1 was perfect.
Allow me to excuse me for my absence. My computer hasn't been able to connect AGS and now it works, in a misterious way.
I am waiting for that clouds, CPage. The other guys might go on working, the competition is close. Can I hire three colorists? I might make a second private competition! :D
Sorry guys i cant get the clouds to look right :'(
Great work in this thread so far lets see some more
well that idea died quick ;)
Aaah, I was looking forward to this project. :'( :'( :'( :'(
So... Do I go for a second pencil sketch, or do we keep this in private CPage? You are the winner... if you want to. ^_^
I thought Paco Vink was the winner... ;D
Well done cpage! Way to colour :)
When does the spriting start? I'd love to enter that compo.
Hehehe... I don't know Buloght... I don't know if I am allowed to start a new compo. But I will do the pencil sketch, that's for sure!
If you want to enter I will pass the sketch to you, be patient.
Scummbuddy... Paco Vink is cool, but he hasn't entered in the compo!!! :D
hey man you keep sketching em i'll keep coloring! altho i do kinda like the idea of doing one more sketch just to make sure it wasnt a fluke :P
Farl if you want to send me another sketch or just post it so everybody can take a whack at it that would be great!
I would be very pleased to use this board to keep with the experiment, but I feel like if I was kidnapping this board. I think I will make the second part of the compo by PMs.
Mods, if you want to lock this thread, I am at your disposal.