'7 Days a Skeptic' by Yahtzee

Started by Layabout, Thu 22/07/2004 11:08:15

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lightman

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Quote from: elle on Mon 30/08/2004 22:56:37
oh you mean the crazy spirit dude launched it so they'd die?

I guess I should hide this?

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No. William did everything. William launched the escape pod and rigged the hatch so that the computer would show it as still there. William also murdered Serena and Barry. DeFoe (the ghost) kills Angela by using Barry's body and then he kills William in the new body.

William wanted to keep Adam and the player on the ship, which is why he ejects the escape pod. Why he rigs it to look like the pod is still there, I don't know.
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Rui 'Trovatore' Pires

But lightman,

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correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he actually hoping that Adam would die?
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elle

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william was posessed by the ghost though wasn't he? so you could say it WAS the crazy spirit dude right?Ã,  ;D
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Rui 'Trovatore' Pires

Nah, if he were he'd have died. His body wouldn't have taken it.
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lightman

Quote from: redruM on Tue 31/08/2004 16:07:39
But lightman,

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correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he actually hoping that Adam would die?
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I don't think so. As far as I can see, he never says anything to hint at that.
The dialogue goes:

Willam: I couldn't let the two of you leave when I still needed you.
Player: You killed Adam.
William: Yes, I know.

He acknowledges that he is responsible for Adam's death, but he doesn't say that he planned it. That he specifically planned to kill Adam seems unlikely. It's possible he expected one of them to die, but he couldn't know if it would be Adam or the player nearest to the hatch. Regardless, it was a really dumb thing to do since both of them might have died (the player barely escapes). As he says, he still needed their bodies.
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Rui 'Trovatore' Pires

I must have mis-read it, then. Tell you the truth, it did strike me as VERY odd, but you know, the game DOES have lots of these oddities...

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I half gave up on it when I realized the key to defeating Barry lied in the towel rack which I'd given up on because I hadn't been able to pick up before. Why didn0t he say something like "I don't need it yet" instead?
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ytg

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Quote from: Zootyfruit on Fri 23/07/2004 15:32:46
i'm really confused.
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I am looking for this escape pod car and have found the abbatoir place. As soon as i go back into the escape room 9after doing or picking up nothing) I get a conversation about a letter. the escape pod opens and we both get sucked out. what have i done wrong?
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maybe you skipped part of the cutscene. When I entered William's room, John was saying somethings...and then he says that he found the key card...says some more things and then you can walk out of the room. check your inventory.

Quote from: Zootyfruit on Fri 23/07/2004 19:10:03
great game but the ending was just obscure. it really made no sense
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what was the point of having him holding a false identity? he didn't do anything wrong did he? daFOe was the killer... If he wasn't then what was the point li nking the two games up?? Bah.
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You don't have to link the unemployed impostor with both stories. He was merely the unlucky survivor of the ship. When John was talking with William for the last time in the game, I thought William was the killer all the time in the ship, when he was possessed by the ghost.

The reason both games are linked is because of the idol, sealed by Trilby in a box and sent out in space, hoping it will not be opened again.

Quote from: Redwall on Fri 23/07/2004 21:02:52
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I didn't see any hand come out of the box at the end? And when I tried to enter the ship without destroying the idol he turned into the Welder when I clicked on the uniform in the airlock. (which was very spooky, because I thought you had to destroy it inside...)
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If you read the official walkthrough "easter eggs" section, you would know that is from "The Ring"

Quote from: prowler on Sun 25/07/2004 11:12:17
i know this is far-fetched, but i usually come up with stories like this to justify stuff that doesn't make sense at first

...and the question that is raised in the beginning of the game, as to how the artifact had reached a place so distant from our solar system, remains unanswered, unfortunately :(

wtf the idol that was sealed in the box traveled from Earth to Carcarus (methinks that's the solar system in the game) for 400 years. that should answer your question.

also, the Welder's spirit was really in the idol that Sir Roderick Defoe used to beat "John Defoe". In the first game, John was raised as an undead to be destroyed. Now, he used William to sew body parts to be raised as an undead again. The Welder is not really immortalytg3


Hamelkart

With you guys talking about John DeFoe, I really can't forget for even one moment how this game scared the sh**t out of me when I got to saturday and sunday!

ghostface

Quote from: SSH on Tue 31/08/2004 15:29:24
Has anyone seen the movie "Jason X"Ã,  ;)
I saw it SSH, and if what you mean by it, I think that it has a strong resemblance to 7 Days.
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Someone

I'm too scared to play the game to end...
Please put everything what happens in the last day on a spoiler...

rednick

Wow that was one heck of a game. I played it for two days straight. Loved the sci-fi references. Event Horizon/Jason X et al. Still I kind of missed Trilby, I was hoping he'd make a reappearance

Nick


Kaniaz

Just finished the game; that was great! My favourite of the two was 5 Days a Stranger, not exactly sure why.

Doc Comic

In Hollywood, this would be a crappy sequel, seeing as all movies that go from amazing modern day tales to futuristic space adventures are crap (coughjasonxcough).  But our man Yahtzee actually pulled it off, and amazingly well, I might add.  Another classic that will go down in history.
Alright, you primitive screwheads, listen up!  You see this?  This...is my BOOMSTICK!

lo_res_man

I know this is an old topic, and I really shoulln't resurect it, but  this game IS by THE Yahtzee, so I like to pretend I have an exuse.
ahem
I have a complaint to make

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It turns out to stop bad zombie guy on Thursday you bash him while you are hiding behind pillar. fine fine so far so good, but it turns out you can't do that if oh.. he is unconchisee at your feet after been stunned. why the heck NOT?! This one of the oldest rules of good adventure gaming. If something can be used one way it should be able to be used the same way in a different situation. and it wouldn't be hard to program, and would only require say 8 frames of animation. it doesn't even give me a hint saying "Oh no, what if he wakes up and sees me while I swing?"  it wasn't fair Yahtzee twasn't fair
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Rui 'Trovatore' Pires

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Maybe because it's a different process. You aren't bashing him to death, because he's already dead. You're just pushing him off the rails, with some extra leverage.
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bicilotti

Quote from: Rui "Trovatore" Pires on Thu 08/11/2007 09:46:21
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Maybe because it's a different process. You aren't bashing him to death, because he's already dead. You're just pushing him off the rails, with some extra leverage.
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Or maybe the entire game

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is "unfair". An "unfair" end for our hero, and "unfair" last assignment for Captain Barry and so on. Some of this "unfairness" has spilt over the game puzzles too.
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Dualnames

Just PM the guy....
And we're blaiming HBK?
Come on, Lo Res Man...
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Rui 'Trovatore' Pires

What? lo_res_man's comment was entirely appropriate.

Bicilotti - maybe you felt the game's ending, and some other plot points, were unfair. That doesn't mean it is, and some of us have no qualms with ending twists that push us away from happy endings.
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bicilotti

Quote from: Rui "Trovatore" Pires link=topic=15466.msg425470#msg425470
Bicilotti - maybe you felt the game's ending, and some other plot points, were unfair. That doesn't mean it is, and some of us have no qualms with ending twists that push us away from happy endings.

Not unfair to the player, unfair to the character themselves. The story of the Captain (Barry Chahal), is indicative of that: a honest and strong man relegated on a ship with outdated technology just for his enterprising attitude.

This general atmosphere is probably reflected on the game's puzzle, the dialogues, etc. I feel that is great for storytelling and help the player to feel what the characters in the game are feeling.

I personally think 7DaS as one of the most intriguing and thrilling game made with AGS and I've replayed it many times trying to learn how to cast the same spell on my games/writings. 

Rui 'Trovatore' Pires

Ah, sorry, I've mis-interpreted your post.

If you're right, then it was quite brilliant of Yahtzee... but it was most likely a coincidence. :)
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