Ben Jordan Case 6: Scourge of the Sea People *Bug Fixed*

[Jhumjhum]

To be honest, my personal theory is that

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Alice IS more than meets the eye, didn't someone say that one of the tombstones in Smailholm said "Alice Wilkins"? ...

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The above can't surely be a coincidence! It also seems a remote possibility that Alice had an ancestress with the same name 200 years ago. What I think when I put two and two together is:

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The present Alice Wilkins is well...not really alive. I also think Mary has something common with her/something to do with her.  The "betrayal" could just be when Ben finds the truth about Alice being dead.

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This probably might be the most weird theory so far, but I strongly suspect this.

[Grundislav]

Reading these has been very interesting!  I'm glad to see people are paying attention and picking up on stuff.  Keep them coming!

Now, not to be too spoileriffic, (is that a word? oh well, it is now) but I felt I should respond to a few of them.

Stupot:

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An interesting idea, but I can assure you there is no "big conspiracy."  The Knights Templar are not behind any of the stuff going on.  There is a main "source" linking everything together, but it's not on a global scale or anything like that.

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olafmoriarty:

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Of the 3 paragraphs in your theory, one of them is correct.

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Jhumjhum:

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You have definitely got some of the right ideas...just not exactly the right ones 

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Also, for those who have REALLY been paying attention:

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The link between the subject of Ben's dream in Case 6, the matter of the tombstone in Smailholm, and Alice can kind of be found out by stuff both in the games and included with them...

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But it will be explained fully by the end of the series if you're still stumped.

[GarageGothic]

About the overall plot:

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Whoa, so the guy in Ben's dream is actually Marcus Wilkins who wrote about Zortherus in the Paranormal Investigator's handbook? Will the last game take us to New England, I wonder?

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[Mike S]

So, another comment.

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It seems that the Alice Wilkins tombstone was one of the more obvious foreshadowing things in the entire series. If Alice is an enemy I'll be mad because Ben deserves a woman. Really.

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[Mike S.]

Okay, I have an account now.

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I noticed a real resemblence between Mary Blaine in Case 5 and Alice in Case 6.

What I really want, but don't want at the same time, is an "All vs Ben" type thing. Ben has most likely been set up from the beginning.

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[CosmoQueen]

Mike didn't you read what Grundislav said? It hasn't been since the very beginning. And it doesn't include everybody.

[Huw Dawson]

Darn spoiler tags! Give me a second...

- Huw

Okay, what's the code to make a spoiler hiding thing? 

[veryweirdguy]

GG is clearly onto something though! Good job in finding that in the Handbook!

And roll on Case 7!

Huw:

Code: ags

[spoiler]Here thar be spoilers[/spoiler]

[SSH]

My theory:

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Grundislav stole the whole plot from Micheal Crichton's Timeline

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[CosmoQueen]

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Hey maybe there is something to this Simon theory. I'm playin case 4 and the psychic/seer woman Madame Rosenquist said that Simon was reckless and it could lead to tragedy. And she had a vision about Simon and all she saw was a black void.

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[veryweirdguy]

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That sounds to me more like he's not gonna have a happy ending than he'll betray our man, to be honest...that would be a shame 'cos I like Simon.

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[Ali]

My Girlfriend and I just finished this game and we really enjoyed it. I particularly liked uncovering the 'reality' behind greek myths.

As far as theories go, is it too much to hope that...

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...everything turns out lovely, and everyone is alive and happy in the end?

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[CosmoQueen]

LOL Ali I don't think so. It would be nice wouldn't it!

Also I remember something else when playing case 4:

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When Ben's in Percy's office (an office that oddly has a chair for Ben but nothing for Percy to sit in) he says they he'll be in touch and then leaves. And after he's gone Percy says "You most certainly well be" in an evil sinister way!

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Oh yeah he's totally up to something.

[Hammerite]

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...and he claims to have gone to Oxford but didn't...
...and he's on the plane in case 5...
...and Grundislav has said that Percy is important in other threads...

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[CosmoQueen]

Hey Hammerite you used the wrong tags. It's not "spoiler" it's "hide"

[magintz]

Nice game, I thought the soundtrack was fantastic and well worth the wait for it. Looking forward to the next one

[Hammerite]

Hey Hammerite you used the wrong tags. It's not "spoiler" it's "hide"

Oh, right.
I'll change it now. 

I wonder what the scrapped case was going to be about...
will Grundy ever tell us?

[Jhumjhum]

Hi!
Grundislav, After reading your reply I played case 3 again and read the paranormal handbook chapter that came with it. I have got another idea that is...

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Is Alice a witch? She is the same Alice Wilkins who was supposed to be "Smailholm's oldest resident" She somehow survived the destruction of the Pennsylvania cult in 1804? Ben Jordan is also from Pennsylvania. Is he a reincarnation or something? Maybe that's why Zortheus specifically wanted to sacrifice him in case 3?

I also observe that Zortheus and Mary don't "die" in case 3 like the other witch-townsfolk. Mary just disappears when assaulted by Zortheus and so does Zortheus when he is stabbed by the stake.

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But maybe, this time I'm going way offtrack with my overactive imagination.

[CosmoQueen]

Very interesting....I'm gonna go play case 3 again!

[Nostradamus]

Soooooo.... another great Ben Jordan Game!   

First of all allow me to compliment you on the background & the animations, which are just exactly what you'd expect Greece to look like. Great job on that, just like you did with the previous game with Japan.
Second, the music is great and the sound effects are especially excellent for the way they contribute to the atmosphere. The song of the Siren was especially awesome.
But what I like most about this game (the whole series in fact) is how the game flows. The dialogues, puzzles & cutscenes advance the plot in just the right pace, and you just play through the game as if you're in the story, cos everything is just right and it just flows. The puzzles are challenging but not frustrating to the point where you get stuck too much, I did have to consult people in the hints& tips section but not too much, it didn't hurt the flow of the game. You even managed to take a hated adventure game bummer - the maze - and make it enjoyable since A) well it just fits in the location of the game with the minotaur and all, and B) it was a fair maze, not too hard and you can go through it and do what you're supposed to do without frustrating endless random wandering.
For all that you deserve many many credit because so very few people can do achieve just this pace & flow in a game. Kudos!
Also, the side stories - the Alice thing and the dreams have complimented the main plot and added to the overall atmosphere, fuin & flow of the game. The dreams are especially a great addition, they make you thing and they keep you in mystery for the next games (or previous ones as has been suggested in the thread).