Summer of [YEAR CLASSIFIED]:
Top Soviet scientists discover copy of "American McGee's Alice."
Then, in unrelated happening, they make this game (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=detail&id=1077).
DIRECT DOWNLOAD HERE! (http://www.livelyivy.com/wp-content/uploads/Underland.zip)
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Design, Art, Writing & Propaganda by The Ivy
Scripting & Sound by Grundislav
In-game music by m0ds
Little Girl in Underland (original IP) was created for the TIGS Bootleg Demakes Competition (http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=2376.0). Voice acting was generously provided at Mittens 2008 by:
Creed Malay
DutchMarco
Finkenstein
Goldmund
Grundislav
Layabout
Miez
m0ds
MrColossal
Radiant
Enjoy it, lovelies! :-*
Play game now! You like!
Hilarious! Love it. :D
Is good game for the Motherland!
Teach important values!
Accomplish five year plan for Committee of Electronic Entertainment!
Awesome game, Ivy. ;D
Speak this, I must!
Blblblblrblrllblb!
Thanks guys! ;D
Incidentally, the game makes a lot more sense if you know what went into it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA5OK-VlRQE). ;)
Damn commies have even ruined Alice in Wonderland!
Cute game :).
Here's hoping this game "Does damage" to socio-political affairs!
Also, here's hoping we live through winter!
edit: oh also, did you make Magic Smiling cat's mustache not sync up with his fading because the fading of the Chesire Cat was so terrible in the original?
Quote from: MrColossal on Mon 08/09/2008 03:18:12
edit: oh also, did you make Magic Smiling cat's mustache not sync up with his fading because the fading of the Chesire Cat was so terrible in the original?
I wish! I think to be honest we just accepted that a lot of this game would be a little rough around the edges, but it's okay, because it fits with the whole "confused Soviet knockoff" thing.
Also, Eric, I've watched that video like 5 times already and I still crack up every time I hear, "I can't prrrrint." :)
well, just tell people that's why you did that with the mustache:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa5Edh6T0kw
if you watch this video you can see that the cat fades in and then his teeth and eyes just POP in, I guess they had a problem with fading in self illuminated models... Good to know AMERICAN McGee had the same problems as his soviet brothers...
Come to think of it, may I suggest you brand this game with a soviet counterpart to American McGee?
Finished Game! Awesome! ;D
I'm positively in love with Alice in Wonderland and this game was pure brilliance. Well done Ivy.
Bucketloads of fun. And, oddly enough, the first talkie AGS game that I've played.
"Here, try magic stick I find in woods" = ;D ;D ;D!
Quote from: MrColossal on Mon 08/09/2008 04:19:15
Come to think of it, may I suggest you brand this game with a soviet counterpart to American McGee?
Hmm, Soviet Knopfski?
What fun bundle is this!
Great work Ivy & co! Very funny stuff ;D
Excellent! I recognize some of the strange sounds that woke me up at Mittens. Obviously it was worth it!
Ah that was great! Could have used a little more puzzles but the humor was lovely!
I'm sorry, but the enemies were way too difficult!!1
Other than that: LOVED IT! ;)
Quote from: Buckethead on Mon 08/09/2008 16:24:52
Ah that was great! Could have used a little more puzzles but the humor was lovely!
Puzzles are a capitalist invention to muddle the mind of the honest worker! ;D
Not my kind of game, it hurt my eyes too much I'm afraid.
Still, looked reasonably well-made.
Is good game. Definitely the best tigsource entry I've played so far. Good luck in the competition.
Workers of the Underland, unite!
Well done, comrades! Game bring much glory to AGS.
Thanx Ivy! That was a great game!
The last two bosses were a bit difficult but I won! 8)
The democratic Capitalism is doomed now!
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If you backside isn't too sore from the friction of everybody's lips, permit me to join in. ;)
'Tis very cool stuff. Congrats to everyone involved.
Unfortunately, I didn't finish it.
I got stuck and couldn't figure out what I had to do.
I started trying to play but some men in suits and thin wristwatches showed up, knocked me over and stomped the hell out of my computer, then pointed meaningfully at me and left. What the hell was that about?
Quite enjoyable game. Thank you. And original too. Sure I like it, but imo, the main female protagonist should put some more effort into it. Like it's now, her voice doesn't sound well at all. I know its meant to be, like she didn't care and like she's not impressed etc, but next time - try to do it better.
All kinds of awesome. ;D Grundy steals the show though.
The cast photos at the end was indulgent but fun, especially for those of us who were involved. :)
I so fat.
Another painful reminder that I missed Mittens and you guys had all the fun. Good stuff! :)
Yay, it's nice to see everyone enjoyed it. I had an amazingly good time making this game (as is apparent in the pictures and video of the voice acting session) and working with Erin was a real pleasure. This was my first collaborative project with another AGSer, and I think it went extremely well!
Quote from: Ultra Magnus on Tue 09/09/2008 09:52:41
Unfortunately, I didn't finish it.
I got stuck and couldn't figure out what I had to do.
Where did you get stuck? Let us know so we can help you out.
Quote from: Iv4n on Tue 09/09/2008 19:24:56
Quite enjoyable game. Thank you. And original too. Sure I like it, but imo, the main female protagonist should put some more effort into it. Like it's now, her voice doesn't sound well at all. I know its meant to be, like she didn't care and like she's not impressed etc, but next time - try to do it better.
Don't disrespect the Author. She has powerful friends.
Whoa, mega feedback! Thanks for taking the time to play! :) I'm glad so many of you enjoyed the game (And that I didn't butcher the Alice story too much for anyone ;)).
And many, many thanks to those of you who volunteered to be voice acting guinea pigs. I want you to know that I have trouble killing you each and every time I play the game. ;)
Eric, you're like the first one to comment on the moustache thing, but it might be my favourite part of the game. Well, no, it's all my favourite part. Also: I'd love to see a splash screen for "Soviet McGee's Alice" someday. :)
Edmundo, Cameron, Jared, m0ds, Buckethead, and Adamski, thank you very much!
Scorposer, haha, thanks ;). Totally digging your signature, by the way.
Miez, you already know you're my hero.
DasJ, ah well, thanks for playing anyhoo. : ,
Chrille, haha, sorry about that! Glad it all worked out in the end though.
Esseb, thanks for the kind words! Seriously, we'll have to actually talk at the next Mittens. :)
Dave, long live communist prosperity! ...and I swear I'll get back to work right away, Mr. Boss Sir!
Yarooze, your comments made me laugh for realz. Glad you made it through victorious!
Ultra Magnus, I appreciate the flattering (though disturbing) visual imagery. :P Yeah, seriously, let us know where you're stuck and someone will give you a hand.
Strange Visitor, you have now permanently earned my respect. :D I cracked up reading your post. Oh, and...just in case, I wouldn't recommend eating or closing your eyes for long periods of time during the next 36 hours. They may have done something to your air supply.
Iv4n, Ah well, I'm no actress. But you're right that she was supposed to sound kind of soulless. Glad you enjoyed the game all the same. :)
Creed, indeed, you so fat. And I may have given the sprite red hair just for you. ;)
Grundislav, whaaaaat? This is seriously your first collaboration? Whoa, I feel special. :) And Magic Smiling Cat totally stole the show. You should grow a moustache like that.
Lay, don't call in the airstrike just yet.
Thanks again, everyone!
P.S. All the pseudo-communist comments you're leaving just crack me up...this thread is great! Keep it coming, comrades! ;)
P.P.S. Look what I found (http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=donet=url&intl=1&fr=bf-homerurl=http://lacrimator.livejournal.com/40108.html&lp=ru_en&btnTrUrl=Translate): A bad Russian translation of a review about a game written to sound like a bad Russian translation. Circle complete!
Quote from: The Ivy on Wed 10/09/2008 02:06:31
I appreciate the flattering (though disturbing) visual imagery. :P
It's romantic! It's threatening!
It's threat-mantic!
Quote from: Grundislav on Tue 09/09/2008 23:32:08
Where did you get stuck? Let us know so we can help you out.
Quote from: The Ivy on Wed 10/09/2008 02:06:31
Yeah, seriously, let us know where you're stuck and someone will give you a hand.
Ermm.... disregard. :-[
I thought I was being funny, but I guess not. ::)
Feel free to ignore me. Most people do.
This game rules. Almost makes me wish I'd bothered to volunteer to do a voice, despite my complete lack of acting talent.
Quote from: Grundislav on Tue 09/09/2008 23:32:08
This was my first collaborative project with another AGSer,
Ben Jordan #1 remake? :'(
I totally helped you design the first 2 Ben Jordan games too :(
By the way, a translation of that mini-review from a genuine Russian speaker (FSi) is as follows:
"Little girl in Underland" / Brilliant 2D comedy based on a story about Alice. Black humour und soviet English are included. 5 minutes of awesome happiness guaranteed. Only for the ones who like [trash culture], others - move along.
Well, what I meant by collaboration was it's the first time I co-designed a game that wasn't mine with another AGSer.
Quote from: Ultra Magnus on Wed 10/09/2008 11:04:54
It's romantic! It's threatening!
It's threat-mantic!
Why it's GREASED LIGHTNING!!!
Ivy, I've already warned you that you would insult a whole nation this way.
But look: no-one from the Soviet Committee of Electronic Propaganda Entertainment has played it yet! But I'm glad you didn't bother about that too much. I must say it is somewhat daring to draw the Evil Queen like that. ;D
I'm so glad that you made this game, game-wise it's not that much (even less challenging than your ordinary hack n slash-game) but it's still great fun! Voiceacting for it was fun too, so I got double the fun out of it. :o
Three cheers to you:
hip hip Hooray!
hip hip Hoorayivich!
hip hipski Hoorayovsk!
I loved the character sprites in this, and I could have looked at them for much longer than the game lasted. I didn't mind it being short though. It was funny and it made attending Mittens look really fun.
- Ali Aleyovich Aliov
The game itself was nice already, but the unlockable bonus? Motherfucking Karl Marx on a bicycle! :o
That said, well done. :P
well done!
this would have been very controversial if it was made in the 80s.
I remember a game named Spitting Images being talked all over the gaming scene, due to its political figures (Reagan, the Ayatolah, Tatcher, etc...) and that was at the end of the 80s.
Very funny and enjoyable to play.
Quote from: Akatosh on Thu 11/09/2008 18:54:40
The game itself was nice already, but the unlockable bonus? Motherfucking Karl Marx on a bicycle! :o
That said, well done. :P
How much did you have to drink?
Quote from: Akatosh on Thu 11/09/2008 18:54:40
The game itself was nice already, but the unlockable bonus? Motherfucking Karl Marx on a bicycle! :o
That said, well done. :P
Yeah, that was a really successful allusion to the good old kolkhoz joke:
"Did you see that functionary on his brand new bicycle?"
- "No, I only saw the skidmarx."
Very funny game, I enjoyed playing it, thank you :)
Quote from: DutchMarco on Thu 11/09/2008 13:13:49
I must say it is somewhat daring to draw the Evil Queen like that. ;D
Ivy is now in Guantanamo Bay. She suffers for her art.
Quote from: Akatosh on Thu 11/09/2008 18:54:40
The game itself was nice already, but the unlockable bonus? Motherfucking Karl Marx on a bicycle! :o
That said, well done. :P
That sounds FUNNN!!!
Thanks everybodeeee. :)
AGA, Heh, next time I go insane and decide to make a game at Mittens (possibly next year) I'll be sure to cast you. You might have been spared the experience of faking an accent this time around, but I'll see what I can come up with in the next few months. Also, AGA and FSi, thanks very much for figuring out that translation for me. I was relieved that it was positive. When I saw my game surrounded by Russian text I had a small heart attack.
DutchMarco, heh, well, I suppose we'll have to disagree. I don't think there's anything really offensive about the game; it's just making fun of everyone, and it's so absurd I don't think anyone would take it seriously. Besides, I can't really insult a nation that doesn't exist any more, right? ...Right?
Ali, wow, thank you so much, that's really sweet of you to say. I did have a lot of fun drawing them, and I'm glad you liked the style (and that means a lot coming from you :)). And yeah, Mittens is a week of solid fun, I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to go.
Akatosh, thank you greatly, I really like that expression you used. :) I wanted to play your demake game but it seems to have...vanished from the face of the earth? Anyway, I hope it sees the light of day again some time, it looked like you guys put a lot of work into it.
miguel, heh, I just hope my name isn't on some list now...
Zyargeikunn & kaputtnik, those comments both made me smile. More Marx jokes, I say! :D
robvalue, you're quite welcome, sir! :)
Lay(about), I told you that was classified! Er, all right. Look. I *was* at Guatanamo Bay, but they locked me in this cell with only a pen and a newspaper, and I realized that if I looked through the keyhole...
Dualnames, how much have you had to drink? :P
Edit: Whoa, another Russian review (http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=donet=url&intl=1&fr=bf-homerurl=http://gameplay.com.ua/node/1006352&lp=ru_en&btnTrUrl=Translate)! Thankfully positive...and masterfully translated. :)
Edit edit: Um...does anyone here speak Czech? This (http://plnehry.idnes.cz/adventure/little-girl-in-underland.html) is a longer review of the game than I would have thought possible.
Edit edit edit: Yay, Little Girl is on internet TV! (http://www.bytejacker.com/episodes/008)
Quote from: The Ivy on Wed 17/09/2008 17:40:25
Dualnames, how much have you had to drink? :P
A quite interesting amount I'd say.. anyways, got to love this game(not talking about basketball)
Quote from: The Ivy on Wed 17/09/2008 17:40:25
Edit edit: Um...does anyone here speak Czech? This (http://plnehry.idnes.cz/adventure/little-girl-in-underland.html) is a longer review of the game than I would have thought possible.
Yeah, these guys from plné hry always write escalating reviews. It will definitely take me longer to translate it than it took me to play it (no offense, my Czech has been going up-around-the-bend since I've not been using it much lately), but I'll try to give you the gist:
The article starts by explaining that it was a reference to American McGee's Alice but notices that this time the original tale of Alice in Wonderland had been twisted even more. Oh, and that the Soviet hymn was playing in the main menu. It then goes on telling the story quite depletively ("Little Girl was a normal girl, but one morning she awakes and receives bad news from the mouth of a coarse man and shortly thereafter starts to fall down and lands on both feet in Underland.")
Well, then it says that there were practically no puzzles, but it was fun nevertheless because of the good story. The dialogs were also very well thought-out, the jokes will make you smile etc, etc. The author (a girl, by the way) then compares the characters to their role models quite elaborately (white rabbit, statue of liberty), devotes some extra space to the "magic stick" and discovers that it was actually a "rapid fire gun" ("rychlopalná střelná zbraň", what a nice long word).
And now the downside: It was too short. And the action player-wise consists mainly of hewing foes. If it wouldn't have, the game would have been rated with an 8
at least *honk, honk*
Why was the final boss the statue of liberty whilst also being an advocate of state socialism? That doesn't make any sense at all.
Hey kaputtnik, thank you so much for going through the trouble of reading that. :D
Wow, that sounds like an awfully complicated account of the game. They probably put more thought into the characters than I did! I was a little worried they'd start looking for political messages or something, but I'm glad they seem to have limited their analysis to the game itself. And I'm glad they seemed to enjoy it. :)
Also, I'm not gonna lie, I'm quite happy that I now know how to say "rapid fire gun" in Czech. ;)
Sythe, there is actually some method to my madness. The Queen, feeling cornered, decides to offer a compromise to Little Girl so that they can "rule Underland together." So she describes what is actually a very fair system of government (federal laissez-faire, with the exception of some social services). But you know, as a faithful daughter of the republic, Little Girl can't allow that to happen. ;)
Quote from: The Ivy on Fri 19/09/2008 01:24:52Sythe, there is actually some method to my madness. The Queen, feeling cornered, decides to offer a compromise to Little Girl so that they can "rule Underland together." So she describes what is actually a very fair system of government (federal laissez-faire, with the exception of some social services). But you know, as a faithful daughter of the republic, Little Girl can't allow that to happen. ;)
I don't mean to be rude, but the system described is in no way fair.
A controlled highly regulated market in medicine, healthcare, and education pushes up prices astronomically by imposing state limits on supply meaning the poor cannot afford to purchase these services, as otherwise they might.
Once the price of these goods and services in the controlled market is astronomically high the state calls for their complete (or nearly complete) nationalization, which is then implemented and results in an expanded bloated socialist state.
The state is then unable and unwilling to meet its socialist promises of free services and a blackmarket for those services develops. At this point the government either gives up and re-opens the markets or passes new legislation to try blot out the blackmarket, at which point the state becomes authoritarian with military police controlling all economic transactions and meetings between people.
So really the economic system you have described is an unstable precursor to an authoritarian state socialism (communism), or a reduction of government. Either way it is not a stable system, nor fair system. And this is further evidenced by the fact that 10% of the American population pays 90% of the taxes.
Socialism, even market capitalism with socialist restrictions, is based on theft -- the violation of the right of private property. Being as this game is a joke about communism -- which is the complete abolition of private property -- it would be appropriate at the end to advocate a system of inviolable private property such as voluntarism. Rather than a violent system which has a considerable chance of becoming the very system you are laughing at. ;D
So forcing medication to have a reasonable maximum price (which appearantly is always at least 4000% of what it would be in a deregulated environment) always results in a 1984-esque facist state? Wow, I didn't know that. ::)
But let's discuss that elsewhere, this game is too awesome for us to allow its thread to turn into a political flamefest.
Quote from: Sythe on Thu 18/09/2008 17:44:45
Why was the final boss the statue of liberty whilst also being an advocate of state socialism? That doesn't make any sense at all.
It sounded like a perfect description of Amerika as it currently exists. Perhaps if we could go back to being the United States again...
I enjoyed the game, but like the Chech site, wished there was a little more actual gameplay. It didn't matter which item I used, it still killed the baddie after a few hits.
OMG I need a walkthru!!! :)
Very cool, very fun little bit of entertainment. Thank you.
Whee! 4th place out of 60+ games (http://tigsource.com/articles/2008/10/05/demake-compo-results). Well done, and congrats Ivy!
(http://www.miez.nl/tmp/medal.jpg)
Congrats Ivy!!!
Ivy, humble thanks for a good laugh! And just guess, Nanobots was on the cover DVD of a quite popular german magazine (PC Action) this month.
I am quite proud that, when me and my mates gather down at our watering hole, I can always lean back and say, "You know, I knew her when she was already famous."
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Much thanks. Shame it was so short. Lets hope this sparks more of the same.
Soviet McIvy's Comrades Grimm ;D
Little Girl in PC Gamer UK!
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a18/The_Ivy/PC_GAMER_UK_OK.jpg)
This is a pretty exciting development, I think. :)
They're also doing a short interview with me next month. Adventure games, people! They'll take you all sorts of places.
Congratulations for that Ivy!
Don't hit me... I loved Little Girl... but that FILLAUTH description had me in stitches too...
Thanks G (And everyone else whose nice comments I missed before. The world needs more Soviet-style comments, I say!). :)
And Ghost, I really meant to play Fillauth too, but I never got around to it. Let me know how it is, if you happen to play it.
I had just a small look at it, but it's very promising indeed. Give it a try if you know the original; it's almost a reverse culture shock ;)