I'm happy and proud to give you:
(http://www.alkis.org/Pictures/Misc/Title.jpg)
I can't believe it's finally ready. The concept was born after reading a phrase in a Stephen King's Dark Tower novel in 1997: "Go on then, there are other worlds than this". I thought that phrase was so powerful I could easily produce a whole story from it.
For those of you who don't know:
Other Worlds is a traditional game which took me 3.5 years to complete. It is a 3rd person, point & click adventure that looks and plays like the late 80s Sierra / LucasArts productions. My intention was to create the best amateur freeware game ever (in terms of gameplay; no way I can compete with Tierra's graphics, sound or animation).
Features:
-More than 150 locations to explore
-More than 40 characters to interact with
-Dozens of inventory items
-The infamous A.L.K.I.S. interface (A.L.K.I.S. stands for Advanced Language Kit and Interface System)
-An intriguing, humorous story full of surprises and plot twists
-A large number of challenging puzzles
It is a fantasy story of a young woman going on a quest to find her missing friend, and discovering a lot more.
You can read a Preview here:
http://www.justadventure.com/Previews/OtherWorlds/OtherWorlds.shtm
Ok then, what are you waiting for? Go to http://www.alkis.org to download it. I hope you will find it was worth the wait.
I just added Other Worlds in the 'Full Length Games' section.
@ alkis
respect, I could never hold that long to an Idea.
and everything i've seen so far sounds and looks
great.
and it took less then 4min to download 25mb
thats already the first record
I hopr many will enjoy your game
It has a nice atmosphere so far. The graphic style looks a bit strange, but it fits well to the atmosphere. Reading about this project on your homepage I am really eager to find out what will happen next, but...
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I really have no idea to crack the password of the computer
By the way, how nice the boyfriend is called Alkis too :=
Quote from: alkis21 on Wed 01/12/2004 22:00:22
I just added Other Worlds in the 'Full Length Games' section.
Hello, congratulations on your game..
So how can you add game into game section !?? ???
You click on "add your game" on the bottom of the game section.
I've only taken a look at the manual yet :)
So you put quite some effort in the manual instead of just dropping some lines into a readme textfile, but actually managed to provide it with your hp's ugly background pattern...
What about people who like to print out their manuals? Especially when considering the prices of printer cartridges...
Quote from: Totoro on Thu 02/12/2004 11:32:55
You click on "add your game" on the bottom of the game section.
Great, just one problem, you need to be loged in, to add game, but every time a quit forums, my account changes back to guest, so i must manualy log in again, so if i exit forums in any way, it automaticly log me off, so i can't post games !?? :(
Not sure it's a solution, but you could try opening games page in defferent window while staying on the forum.
Quote from: lelev on Thu 02/12/2004 16:37:30
Not sure it's a solution, but you could try opening games page in defferent window while staying on the forum.
doesn't work :-[
EDIT: I got it working now.. !??!! :-X
Maybe you should not discuss it here, this is Alkis' thread because he finished a game... which I like but find quite trick until now :D
Thanks guys. The graphics are probably the game's worst feature, as I'm a programmer, not an artist. However, I think the story & puzzles will compensate you as you go along (it starts slowly but it gets much more interesting).
Totoro, keep trying and you will find it. :) I can give you a subtle hint if you like but you will feel better if you solve it yourself.
Khrismuc, I'm sorry that you think the manual's background is ugly. The obvious answer to your question is, I never thought about it. I can e-mail you a background-free version if you want to print it.
Good news: The game has been online for just 30 hours and already 180 people have downloaded it!
when i tried to put the oil into the car i got hung on it and then a error message pops out :
an error has occured please contact the game author for support as this problem is cause by the game rather than by the interpreter
(aci verison 2.55.560)
(global script line 102 )
error:displaymessage: invalid message number to display
pls help
Ok, I'll be very very honest - I love the effort put into this, especially the way the non-character graphics FIT - usually, people just throw them in and it makes them look out of place. I also love the little details, such as the cat going to sleep after she eats. That's the sort of little detail that makes the game come alive, up to a point, of course.
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But I'm not really satisfied with the way things happen (don't shoot me!). I mean, the message Alkis leaves for Natalya (looks quite dramatic, but it means nothing to us this early in the game because we don't even KNOW Alkis)... the whole way you introduce Natalya (via a textbox)... the way the game starts (plunging you right into it)... The book in the mansion (it's a bit overdone. On the right track, but doesn't really sound natural. It sounded like the writer WANTED to be dramatic, and I mean film-dramatic, not real-life dramatic). Also, there's an issue with the inventory - when you open it up, it automatically goes to the pointer cursor, which does nothing, so we always have to switch to the HAND before doing anything else. It's bothersome.
But honestly, the game outlives all these things. Because of the story, yes, and the puzzles are quite, quite enjoyable, but mostly because it shows it was a true labour of love. Congratulations on pulling this off!
And know... I'm stuck! (he)
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In the mansion, I've got to the basement and I found the plate. I'm pretty sure the prysm has to go in there and fixed with the bolt so "the beam can show me the way", but I don't know how. Also, how can I put 3 drops of glycerin in the bowl?
AND BY THE WAY, WHY didn't 123456 work on the keypad? Why did I have to solve the Buhdha puzzle?!!
Heh, just joking. But it IS a bit of a inconsistency.
Quote from: godfreako on Fri 03/12/2004 08:44:40
when i tried to put the oil into the car i got hung on it and then a error message pops out :
an error has occured please contact the game author for support as this problem is cause by the game rather than by the interpreter
(aci verison 2.55.560)
(global script line 102 )
error:displaymessage: invalid message number to display
pls help
I can't believe so many people tested the game for so much time and nobody ever tried that before. It's only been three days since I uploaded it and you're the second person who did that. I'm sorry, you are correct. :-[ It is true then, you can't release a bug-free game no matter how hard you try. You don't need to use the oil can once you're inside the car anyway.
Rui, I'll reply in private to avoid spoilers.
This is awesome...I've been waiting or looking for a game like this for a looooooooong time. A game where you can explore other places rather than just one location, a point n click adventure game at that and FREEWARE most importantly.
Good job. =)
Thank you for your enthusiastic feedback. :) I'm glad you're enjoying the game.
Great job with the game (just finished it this morning)! :)
One little continuity error:
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The bum gives his name as Jason, and he's called Jason in the ending sequence, but when Natalya talks to Nathaniel she refers to him as Jonathan.
Thank you Oneiro_Farseer. Don't be spartan with your comments, I'd love to hear more about the impression the game gave you. And don't forget to vote. I'd also like to know what you thought of the ending.. or should I say
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What do you think that happened in the end? There are several interpretations...
As for the other thing.. some beta testers will not get their pay checks. :-[
Thanks for a great game Alkis. Some of the puzzles were very intelligent.
Its so good, I'm playing it again! ;D
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I hope you voted for it. :)
I did indeed vote for itÃ, ;)
I had the chance to play your game for a brief amount of time today, and so far I think it's really good! The graphics do their job, the music is really good and the story seems very interesting -can't wait to see how the plot unfolds! So all I can say is congratulations, panta tetoia! (that last part was in Greek, in case you non-Greek speaking people were wondering :P).
P.S.
Your name sounded kinda familiar but then I checked your homepage and saw the Kick Off 2 section and remembered you were the KO2 champion a few years ago! KO champion and a great adventure maker, that's quite impressive!
I always seem to be writing "thank you" posts these days. I was very anxious to hear what people who were complete strangers to me would think of my game. You see, all my beta testers were telling me it was great while I was making it, but they were all more or less my friends so I wasn't sure they weren't biased.
Now seems like as good a time as any for me to thank in public the man who made it all happen for us: Chris Jones.
Ευχαριστώ! :)
Some more statistics...
-843 people have downloaded my game in 9 days
-12 people have voted for it and the current score is 98%! Shocked
Come on people, it's good but it's not Monkey Island 2... ::) You're making me blush.
I sure will vote for this one. I just love it when we deal with many rooms and lots of puzzles.
One thing I don't like is that my screen goes 'black' almost everytime I make a move and then it seems to freeze, then I have to wait at least 1 minute and the screen comes back. This is FRUSTRATING >:( >:( >:(. Also if you open a door, then you have to use the 'walk' button. And you have to 'look' all over before you can 'get something'.
I was wondering: almost in every room I went through I found something to take.
What is to get in the dining room ???
How do you open the trap in bathroom ???
If we miss something in a room.....can we go back to get it ???
BUT THIS IS A GREAT GAME. LOVE IT . :)
sunshinegold...
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You can always go back and get an item. There are no dead ends in this game.
Trapdoor...
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There are a few things to do to get the trapdoor open. The keypad is one of the steps.
Quote from: sunshinegold on Sun 12/12/2004 03:34:11
One thing I don't like is that my screen goes 'black' almost everytime I make a move and then it seems to freeze, then I have to wait at least 1 minute and the screen comes back. This is FRUSTRATING >:( >:( >:(.
You screen goes black everytime? ??? I can't say I've heard this one before. 1 minute? I can't believe you still haven't given up on it. There seems to be something wrong with the way the game cooperates with your PC.
QuoteAlso if you open a door, then you have to use the 'walk' button.
Yeah that's the idea, first you open a door, then you walk out of a room.
QuoteAnd you have to 'look' all over before you can 'get something'.
I'm not sure I understand this one.
QuoteI was wondering: almost in every room I went through I found something to take.
What is to get in the dining room ???
Some rooms contain nothing useful to you.
QuoteHow do you open the trap in bathroom ???
If we miss something in a room.....can we go back to get it ???
See Ida's reply.
QuoteBUT THIS IS A GREAT GAME. LOVE IT . :)
Thank you.
I downloaded the game on Saturday and try it a little. It looks pretty good! When I have some spare time [I have an exam on friday] I'll play it.
Quote from: alkis21 on Fri 03/12/2004 21:35:28
Rui, I'll reply in private to avoid spoilers.
BTW, what are spoilers?
Spoilers are pieces of information that reveal things the reader might now want to know yet, e.g. the ending of a movie or in this case events and solutions to puzzles in an adventure.
Hey nice game...
I am definately stuck and don't understand how I'd be able to figure this one out...
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I can't seem to crack the password to the computer and I don't understand where I'd figure out how to find it
/Ieremiou
Quote from: Ieremiou on Tue 14/12/2004 01:46:17
Hey nice game...
I am definately stuck and don't understand how I'd be able to figure this one out...
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I can't seem to crack the password to the computer and I don't understand where I'd figure out how to find it
/Ieremiou
Are you talking about the computer in Alkis' room? If so, look at the clock/time ;) Then read the message, first letter of each line.... :)
Alkis,
YOU ARE THE GREATEST...........BEST GAME EVER...........TOUGH FOR MY LITTLE BRAIN.......THANKS FOR THE WORKOUT.
Once again, thank you. Too bad the score is dropping, 90% at the moment with 22 votes. What puzzles me is the 78% in Immersion, which I thought was the game's strongest point. Oh well, if it deserves more it will eventually get more, I guess.
gr8 game i just compeleted it
Hi!
Great Game. At first, I was deterred by the graphics, but the puzzles and the story really work out well. Even for players, that like Myst ;-)
Well. But now, I'm not getting through the following thing:
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I can't seem to find the thing to get the three drops out of glycerine (??). I think it has to do something with the bright room and the prism, but I can't figure out, how.
If I'm through, I'll vote for it!
Bye,
deep
Deepgames
Try the hints forum this question and lots of other questions have been answered there
Hi Alkis, I just finished your game! Overall, I really enjoyed the game a lot. The game has some qualities that are unrivaled yet and it is probably the longest AGS game so far, so much is sure (I also think it is longer than anything Sierra ever did and most other commercial games). Thank you for the unique gaming experience! ;)
Things that I think were really fantastic about your game:
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- The spell system. It gives so much more depth to the puzzles. Adding some "parser" elements to a game makes the puzzles much more challenging and fun if it is done well. And you've done it exceptionally well.
- The code puzzle. It was fun to figure out which code was being used and it was a nice twist that the word "seven" didn't represent the numeric value but the characters.
- Characters you can relate to. Especially Natalia (except for some actions which seemed out of character) Dloulie.
- The demons: They were the two funniest adventure game characters I've seen in a long time.
- The four worlds: Each of the worlds had an interesting concept, also the mansion and the "meta world" where the demons lived.
- Most of the epilogue: I love this "what happened to them" style.
- The music: Most of the times it was just beautiful. Sometimes it was rather bizarre, but I guess that's what I liked about it. Did you compose it yourself or just choose it BTW?
However, there were some things that I absolutely didn't like. Most of them are minor issues that could easily be fixed on the one hand, but could spoil the enjoyment of the game for some people on the other hand, so I'd like to point them out to you as well. I hope you can take this as constructive criticism and don't feel offended.
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- The orichalcum puzzle: There was no clue to any part of this puzzle. There wasn't a clue that an orichalcum bead could be used on the boat, not even that there was a mould or something similar. Also, you never needed the "summon inventory item from old adventure game" spell for and there wasn't a clue that the spell worked differently in different locations either. I honestly think that no one will figure this one out without trial and error. Add clues or remove the puzzle, it will improve your game.
- The screwdriver puzzle: Up to this point, all puzzles were very "down to earth". I just didn't expect this Monkey Island/DOTT kind of puzzle at this point of the game. And why was the vodka under the bed?
- Start of the game: I think I've read the words "Chapter I: Alkis Is Missing" more than 50 times and I will remember that Natalia is 27 years at the beginning of the story till the day that I die. You really should show a menu at the beginning that allows you to quickly restore a saved game, especially as your game is very long and people are likely start it many times before they finish it.
- The menu icons and some of the inventory items were too small for my taste. It's just uncomfortable. Also I think the title bar should disappear when the icon bar pops up so you can select an icon by quickly moving the cursor all the way to the top of the screen and clicking.
- The standard icon in the inventory should be the action cursor (except when you're in Gergem of course), just because the arrow cursor doesn't have any function at all and you can look at items by left-clicking on them. If I remember right, Puss in Boots already pointed this out.
- Natalia cutting the alien's arm off. Well, you portrayed the aliens as evil beings, but this was so cruel that it just seemed out of character. Call me a sissy, but I really didn't like it.
- The very last scene with Natalia back in Gergem (?). This ending gave me the feeling that all was for nothing. Or is it just that I didn't understand a thing? How can it be that Dloulie and Natalia still are close friends and she is still in Gergem? Or was it all a dream after all and all of this never happened?
Now there's one thing I'd just like to know (if it's not too personal):
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Why did you choose yourself and your girlfriend as main characters in an adventure game and then kill yourself off and put your girlfriend in a coma? Or did you just use the names and the game characters don't have anything to do with you and the real Natalia?
I hope you'll make another game some time. Maybe with some help, so it won't take you that long.
Sorry, moderators, I don't know how this happened. :( I really didn't want to start a new thread. Could you move this message in the Other Worlds thread?
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'll reply with a private message to avoid using all those {hide} thingies.
Quote from: alkis21 on Wed 01/12/2004 21:39:46
I'm happy and proud to give you:
(http://www.alkis.org/Pictures/Misc/Title.jpg)
I can't believe it's finally ready. The concept was born after reading a phrase in a Stephen King's Dark Tower novel in 1997: "Go on then, there are other worlds than this".Ã, I thought that phrase was so powerful I could easily produce a whole story from it.
For those of you who don't know:
Ã,Â
Other Worlds is a traditional game which took me 3.5 years to complete. It is a 3rd person, point & click adventure that looks and plays like the late 80s Sierra / LucasArts productions. My intention was to create the best amateur freeware game ever (in terms of gameplay; no way I can compete with Tierra's graphics, sound or animation).Ã,Â
Features:
-More than 150 locations to explore
-More than 40 characters to interact with
-Dozens of inventory items
-The infamous A.L.K.I.S. interface (A.L.K.I.S. stands for Advanced Language Kit and Interface System)
-An intriguing, humorous story full of surprises and plot twists
-A large number of challenging puzzles
It is a fantasy story of a young woman going on a quest to find her missing friend, and discovering a lot more.
You can read a Preview here:
http://www.justadventure.com/Previews/OtherWorlds/OtherWorlds.shtm
Ok then, what are you waiting for? Go to http://www.alkis.org to download it. I hope you will find it was worth the wait.
Just finished it. GREAT GAME :) Really enjoyed it even though I had a bit of a problem, lots of times my screen would go 'black' or I had to wait a minute or so before I could go on with the game, as it kinda froze.
I liked the idea of lots of rooms to play and lots of personnage.
Good idea of including a walkthru because I don't think I would be finished playing without it.
Hope you will have another game soon :)
Congratulations again. ;)
I also finished this game and enjoyed it.
Though I probably would never have finished it without the walkthrough.
The ending is more or less a matter of taste. ;)
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Actually, I would have liked a complete happy-ending...
But it fit well, so don't worry, it was still funny. :D
Bye, Straston
Quote from: straston on Mon 03/01/2005 12:43:04
The ending is more or less a matter of taste.Ã, ;)
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Actually, I would have liked a complete happy-ending...
I thought the game was excellent, but as for the ending:
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Actually, I'm curious whether Alkis had decided on the ending before he started coding. It seems to me that the ending would have been a lot stronger if everything if the fantasy world in retrospect could be seen as symbolic representations of the player character's emotional struggle. It could have been quite interesting if the locations and characters in the "Other Worlds" referred back to actual places and people in her old life as well as at the asylum (Cabinet of Dr. Caligari style). Imagine a Usual Suspects/Through the Looking Glass kind of twist where everything we've experienced in the game was actually derived from pictures, book spines and decorative objects on the shelves that the catatonic girl is looking at all day
Just wanted to let everyone know that Other Worlds was reviewed in a PC Master magazine (Greece) and got an 85%.
Since the mag is still out, I don't think I'm allowed to post the entire text. It was a two pages review, under "Positive" it listed:
-Classic old school adventure game
-Very good and in some cases exceptionally witty humor
-Use of spells
-Characters
and under "Negative":
-Graphics
-The ending
-Difficulty in finding the Exits
Another very flattering review for Other Worlds:
http://www.gameboomers.com/reviews/Oo/Otherworldsbyinferno.htm
Congratulations!
Something seems to be wrong. I am at the end of chapter 4,
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i just got out of the fathels world, i have collected all spells needed and iwant to program the obel marbel, i try to cast the correct spell( from plee) on the marblel and i get the message " this would be pointless" Have i done anything wrong? or is it a bug? According to the walkthrough i am correct
oh how wonderful!ÂÃ, visible spoilers in the completed game announcements! good job! :=
It's fine to post visible spoilers in the Hints and Tips forum but posting them here is totally ignorant and unfair towards people who haven't played that particular puzzle yet. Use the [hide*] [/hide*] tags(put the spoiler inbetween those tags and don't write the *). This way you'll avoid making people hate you.
Angry? Meeee? Neeeeverrrr!ÂÃ, ;D
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this is a fake grin to hide that I am actually angry
Thou art right in thy wrath, but also a bit behind the times. :) A little while ago the "no hints here, use the hints and tips forum instead" rule started being enforced. This thread is much older, so what in fact does is show what things were like before then. So while your anger is justified, it's not much use here, see? ;)
the post I was replying to is from 8th jan 2006, so I guess I'm not that far behind the times(unless the rule you mentioned has been enforced on the 8th jan 2006 at 22:47 ::)).
You're totally right, my mistake. ;D
You could ask a moderator to spoiler it. Since the poster's a "guest" he/she won't be able to edit it him/herself.
You might be right, but still i dont find it such a serious mistake to make you so angry! Just for your info on Jan 8 i registered, so i think that i can excuse myself for making you angry, and thank you for your info about entering the spoilers bracket!
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i suppose the xmas spirit must have left you untouched as to hate people so easily
woops, still need some practice there. and in my opinion saying "hey i'm a newbie!" is a pretty lame excuse for not reading the forum rules. also i didn't say I hate you. i was just reffering generally to other people who m i g h t react extremely hateful at someone else ruining a great game for them. i just said I was angry which is a difference - I'm sometimes angry at my sis which doesn't mean I hate her. about the thing being serious or not, that's totally subjective. if I don't get warned that I'm about to read a spoiler for a game I have yet to play, and actually read it, I find it quite upsetting, though you might not care at all and label it "eh, not serious". ignorance is bliss. as for the christmas spirit.... hey i didn't throw things at you and I gave you some useful advice for the future. that's something I do exclusively for christmas. but if that wasn't christmasy enough I'll be happy to add a hearty HO HO HO!!! ;D
Now now! A moderator will soon fix the spoilt :)
sorry, didn't mean to turn this topic into a rubbish bin! let's be friends mara! :-*
Aha, done!
Yeah anyway all this spoil discussion and still no one answered her question in the first place lol. That was funny. Ã, :=
Anyway just wanted to say congratulations. Other Worlds is one of the best Adventure Games i've ever played and definately in the top5 of Fan Games ever. Thank you Alkis. Ã, :=
Oh and also, i am Greek too, thank you for making us proud of such a diamond game to be Greek .... :=
LARRY VALUES!!11
:P
Yeah this emoticon Rules :=
Anyway .... ;)
Anyway! Back to the topic, I'm stuck!
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I've gotten the password, and I've noticed that the first letters of each new sentence spell out the hidden message " get the rope ". Now, how do I make Natalia realise that? Or am I suppose to just get the rope? If so, what rope? Is it referring to the nylon cord at the curtain?
Quote from: .Sklate. on Sun 23/04/2006 06:02:09
Anyway! Back to the topic, I'm stuck!
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I've gotten the password, and I've noticed that the first letters of each new sentence spell out the hidden message " get the rope ". Now, how do I make Natalia realise that? Or am I suppose to just get the rope? If so, what rope? Is it referring to the nylon cord at the curtain?
that should be in "hints and tips" but ...
yes (to your last question) ... do you already have the knife?
Edit: (ontopic) Besides AGDIs KQ remakes, which introduced me to AGS, Other Worlds was the first AGS game I played and completely convinced me, that this is a community I have to stay in touch with, so as not to miss such good freeware games :)
???hi..plz,help me to find Krupi took the Net..but ..im lost after this..thanka a lot.. :) :) :)
As an ellinas. I say way to go. By thw way you seem to have a fast mirror there. 414 kbps
!!!!
I am wondering if you could host a file of mine.
... TOPIC NECROPHILE AT TWELVE O'CLOCK.
???Guys..pleeese...plz help me to find Krupi, i took the Net..but ..im lost after this..its say in WT ,go to the N,EXIT to the W ,BUT THERE IS NO WAY FOR THIS TO FIND Krup..thanks a lot.. give me a hint plz.
Alkis,
this was an amazing game! I loved it!
TELEIO!!!