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Creative Production => Critics' Lounge => Topic started by: obe on Wed 23/03/2005 18:42:25

Title: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: obe on Wed 23/03/2005 18:42:25
I'm just starting off with AGS, so I cheated and used a template until I grow a little more confident inmyself.
I'm using my new project to re-teach myself how to draw after a 3 year hiatus.

Suggestions?
(http://69.28.228.97/untitledchars.gif)
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: MrColossal on Wed 23/03/2005 20:01:30
They look good to me, they don't look too much like the template to be  completely recognizable either.

The problems I have is with the shoulders on the 3 girl characters, they look really broken down, pull them up a little. The hair on the dude is great and I love the shading on his chest.

Also, the crotch on the dude and the girl in blue jeans is a little weird, the 2 pixels meeting like that is awkward, I don't remember what it looks like in the template but if I did that then I'll have to change it.

Eric
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: Flippy_D on Wed 23/03/2005 23:02:53
I like the hair on pinky, the green highlights really work.

Trouble is, the sleeves don't. I don't know whether it's the too high contrast between dark pink and black on the border or what, but I'd try to fix that. The characters are also standing a little aggressively - although that suits the fourth character.
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: Sluggo on Wed 23/03/2005 23:06:05
I agree with the sleeve thing. They look too thick, and they go too far over her hands. Also the two pixels at the top of the hair on the girl with black hair looks kind of weird.
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Thu 24/03/2005 01:37:50
I didn't really mind the sleeve thing ...

I agree with Mr. C about the shoulders:

(http://www.twin-design.com/ags/help/obe_help01.gif)
- lowered the shoulders
- thinned the neck
- added a little cleavage ('cause hey ... I like cleavage!)
- brought the head down
- fixed the legs/crotch area
- put the one arm behind to create a more relaxed stance

I dig the characters!  With a little more time and polishing they'll be fully functional!

Hope it helps!
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: obe on Thu 24/03/2005 03:31:21
i had problems trying to post earlier or else I would have replied sooner >_<

I DID fic the shoulders in the above image, they looked a lot worse before, trust me.
I checked out that template and Lester(Mr. orange hair) has the same two pixel thing going on with his crotch. The girls were all lengthened to widen the legs a little.

However i kinda like Darth did with Gretchen(Miss blonde) =D
The cleavage wont work because it's in between pixels or else i would  have done it myself XD
I only added the sleeves because i didn't want to have to draw both a left and a right walk cycle for her because her character actually only have one arm >_< So i his the prosthesis with a sleeve. XD

- I re-edited it once again and tried something with it tho.
- lighened her sleeve border and i think it looks a bit better

(http://69.28.228.97/obe_help01.gif)

here's some tiny reference pics from my old website:
(http://69.28.228.97/agscharmap.gif)
(http://69.28.228.97/agdcrystal.gif)
er... but the asl link should be ags not agd
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: Scummbuddy on Thu 24/03/2005 03:44:24
so.. why don't you just edit your link?
(http://69.28.228.97/agscrystal.gif)

i really like the reference pics... and i think what you've done so far with the template has been a great job. keep us informed with the updates and what you do with them
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens on Thu 24/03/2005 08:15:27
I made a few changes that might help you get back into the black art of pixel drawing ;)

(http://members.cox.net/veradin/chars1.gif)
(http://members.cox.net/veradin/chars1.gif)

I focused primarily on the female shapes, giving them hips and narrowing their legs as they moved down.  I also touched up their shoulders and lifted their breast lines a bit.  I also widened their heads by 1 pixel to re-center them on the new bodies.

Edit 2 was more superficial, all I did was play with their faces a bit:
(http://members.cox.net/veradin/chars2.gif)

Nice work, and I hope this helps.
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: obe on Thu 24/03/2005 13:38:47
test... probs.. with.. posting... >_<
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: Flippy_D on Thu 24/03/2005 17:22:53
I think the upper torso of the pink girl could do with coming in a notch, too - it looks a little wedge shaped at the moment.
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: Estaog on Thu 24/03/2005 18:33:32
The forth one kida looks like a man  :P.
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: Scummbuddy on Thu 24/03/2005 18:49:40
why? I think the breasts, the blouse and the hair all make it seem very girly to me.

if you mean the facial structure, then maybe just say that you would like to see that reworked.

[to everyone who doesnt already]
and pleaaaaaaaaaase stop quoting pictures just to say one line of comment on it. in most cases we all know what image you all are referring to, so please, remove the image tags if you are quoting someone and leave any pertinent text.
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: Kweepa on Thu 24/03/2005 19:03:38
I agree with Tanker - ProgZ's edit does make the face more masculine.
I think it's the heavier eyebrows and the shape of the chin.
Otherwise, the edits are awesome! I especially like the "happy face" of #3 and the rework of the leg spacing.
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: Al_Ninio on Thu 24/03/2005 20:15:57
This is probably the first time I like the original sprite more than ProgZ's edit.
Sorry Proggie, but the original characters have a certain... charm, to them.
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: Estaog on Thu 24/03/2005 20:41:57
Quote from: Scummbuddy on Thu 24/03/2005 18:49:40
why? I think the breasts, the blouse and the hair all make it seem very girly to me.

What i meant was a man DRESSED UP as a female. And yes i am talking about the face.
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: obe on Thu 24/03/2005 21:51:53
hopefuly after i format i'll be able to post properly and comment on all the edits. >_<

sorry for my bro positng for me and screwign up the link to the past pic.
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: obe on Fri 25/03/2005 17:48:45
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/obesolete/gretchenstandbig.gif

I've kept the same sort of stance that Progz had reworked.
I think this is going to be my final edit of the characters. I can't have them too fancy or else they'll look out of place in teh rest of my poorly drawn backgrounds. XD
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: passer-by on Fri 25/03/2005 17:56:04
I generally like them all, but the third one, (view from back) looks like she could make with some butt exercise... :P
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: Reptile on Fri 25/03/2005 18:23:17
They all look really good. I specially like the ginger hair, pretty cool style.
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: viktor on Mon 28/03/2005 09:24:02
These are great. But the third (back) wiew is kind of wierd. Where the trousers meet the shoes (sorry i didn't kow to put it) the trousers could wrinkle a bit.  It also looks like she is standing in an extreme V like position. Try making it so that one of the shoes is only visible from the back (not from the side).
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: Ubel on Mon 28/03/2005 11:18:39
Nice work. Very nice.

Hmm...critics? The shoulders of back view are too low. Pull them up as you pulled the front views shoulders.
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: Phemar on Tue 29/03/2005 09:08:59

Smaller butt, smaller butt!
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: obe on Tue 29/03/2005 13:59:13
Quote from: Zor on Tue 29/03/2005 09:08:59

Smaller butt, smaller butt!

lol! i'm working on it!
Title: Re: 4 characters to be bashed.
Post by: Haddas on Tue 29/03/2005 16:20:06
Quote from: Zor on Tue 29/03/2005 09:08:59

Smaller butt, smaller butt!

just a tad bigger I thinkk it should be, but heart-shaped!

/me continues listens to Sir Mix-a-lot