A Hunter-C&C

Saberteeth · Fri 31/03/2006 16:43:41

Hi, I just drew this character, what do you guys think. I used indy for my inspiration(LC indy) 'cause of the CoS project I have going on. Well, here it is:

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I'm kinda not satisfied with his right arm(his right, my left) and the belt should be more loose.
Comment, Paintover, Critisize, anything to help me with this pic.

Saberteeth

Corey · Sat 01/04/2006 09:35:01

I think that balck line next to his arm shouldnt be there. I don't know about the belt, maybe make it straight.

Saberteeth · Sat 01/04/2006 16:01:58

Thanks for replying.

The black thingy is supposed to be a smaller belt which is attached to the gun. You know that's a gun/rifle, right?

seaduck · Sat 01/04/2006 21:23:18

Nice character! The problem is he doesn't look like a hunter - he looks like a soldier.

1. He's got a bayonet fixed on his rifle - bayonet is a close combat weapon. Only soldiers use this.

2. His hair looks a bit like a beret.

Saberteeth · Sat 01/04/2006 21:57:10

Ok, here's what I did:

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*added a hat. I don't like drawing hair
*made the vest open to give him a less-soldiery look
*removed the belt
*gave the small belt for the rifle a different color
*removed the bajonet

Does it need any more fine tunning?

nihilyst · Sat 01/04/2006 22:01:17

Looks alot better, but it's uncommon to put the jacket in the trousers.

Saberteeth · Sun 02/04/2006 09:26:25

Another(small) paintover:

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Two canges:

*changed his right hand. Now it looks like he's holding the belt
*made the vest longer

Hope you guys like it

Neil Dnuma · Sun 02/04/2006 21:11:26

Not bad.

His left arm is to thick tough. Also, the line on the jacket implies it's connected to his neck.

You should try a less dark colour for the mouth. It looks like it's wide open, like he's exhausted or in shock.

Tuomas · Sun 02/04/2006 22:02:10

I'm really sad now. I spent quite a while making a paintover, and then saved it twice... TWICE and then closed artgem and it had not created any files, pictures or anything, I all the time was spent in vain.

But, I'll tell you what I would have suggested. First of all, both arms are a bit short. I'd lenghten them like two or three pixels. Then what I did was shorten the legs by lowering the crouch, not extending the feet.
Then about the jacket. Personally I'd think a brown-ish colour would fit better, with big pockets. at least that's how I've imagined hunters. And you need to make the jacket a bit longer too. Then the left(from the charatcer's eyes) sleeve, I wouldn't bring the sleeveline, the grey line so far to the neck, but stop it at the armpit or what's it that gets sweaty.
Damnit, I even fixed the boots a bit, but

Oh, and your hunter is very good as it is, don't take me to harsh, I'm just a bit frustrated at the moment.

skw · Mon 03/04/2006 11:56:15

Kinda QUICK paintover, just to give you some ideas:

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Hope it helps.

edit: BTW,

WINCHESTER rifle, http://www.lauritz.com/s_j/4.asp?itemid=530731&lang=2.

Saberteeth · Mon 03/04/2006 13:37:19

Quote from: Neil Dnuma on Sun 02/04/2006 21:11:26
You should try a less dark colour for the mouth.

Em, that's his moustache, like hitlers. Kinda a wannabe Hitler or something

Quote from: Tuomas on Sun 02/04/2006 22:02:10
But, I'll tell you what I would have suggested. First of all, both arms are a bit short. I'd lenghten them like two or three pixels. Then what I did was shorten the legs by lowering the crouch, not extending the feet.
Then about the jacket. Personally I'd think a brown-ish colour would fit better, with big pockets. at least that's how I've imagined hunters. And you need to make the jacket a bit longer too. Then the left(from the charatcer's eyes) sleeve, I wouldn't bring the sleeveline, the grey line so far to the neck, but stop it at the armpit or what's it that gets sweaty.
Damnit, I even fixed the boots a bit, but

Em, thanks, I guess...

. i'll put your opinion into consideration too and improve him.

Quote from: Skurwy on Mon 03/04/2006 11:56:15
WINCHESTER rifle, http://www.lauritz.com/s_j/4.asp?itemid=530731&lang=2.

Wow, thanks. That helped too.

Well, thanks guys. I see now why CL is so popular if you're looking for good crits. I'd better start making a paintover as soon as possible.

Saberteeth 8)

skw · Mon 03/04/2006 14:13:11

Quote from: Saberteeth on Mon 03/04/2006 13:37:19
Quote from: Neil Dnuma on Sun 02/04/2006 21:11:26
You should try a less dark colour for the mouth.
Em, that's his moustache, like hitlers. Kinda a wannabe Hitler or something

edit: Hit Ctrl+F5 to refresh (mustache) my paintover two posts above

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Mad · Mon 03/04/2006 14:29:10

I think you've got a really nice lo-res sprite there!
The only thing I'd suggest is to have less straight lines:

Oh yeah, I changed some of the colours!

Saberteeth · Mon 03/04/2006 14:31:11

Skurwy, your paintover is great and it gave me some ideas. But that's not the style I'm looking for, we'll mainly use LCstyle graphics. So, again I come to you, the AGS community with this humble paintover

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I'm not gonna comment what changes I did, it's pretty obvious.

EDIT: Wow, mad, that's one Ã¼ber paintover. It looks more like FoA now

. Great though. So now comment my paintover.

Krysis · Mon 03/04/2006 14:38:26

That doesn't look like a moustache. Its too low and it looks too much like a mouth. Skurwy drew it pretty good in his paintover.

skw · Mon 03/04/2006 14:40:12

Nice, Saber but as I now noticed, you're using TOO MANY colours! Reduce their number to the essential ones.

Quote from: SaberteethSkurwy, I'll try. You see, we'll using 16bit graphics and I want the craracters to look good to the eye, you know what I mean?

As you want but they will be harder to animate. Anyway, using a few colors instead of using a bunch of them is more challenging

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Saberteeth · Mon 03/04/2006 14:41:31

Relentless, that's a beardÃ,Â :

. All of the black stuff is the beard.
Skurwy, I'll try. You see, we'll be using 16bit graphics and I want the craracters to look good to the eye, you know what I mean?

CaptainBinky · Mon 03/04/2006 14:55:08

Quote from: Skurwy on Mon 03/04/2006 14:40:12
As you want but they will be harder to animate. Anyway, using a few colors instead of using a bunch of them is more challenging .

I agree that working within a limited palette is a skill unto itself, however, one of the beauties of working within AGS as opposed to making a genuine DOS VGA game is that there is absolutely no reason to restrict yourself to a palette. Use as many colours as you like - not every colour needs to be used in every frame. In Forgotten Element, my characters use a palette of about 32 colours. Each frame I'm probably using between 16 and 24 colours. I could standardise this, but why? AGS isn't limited, so neither need we be.

Saberteeth · Mon 03/04/2006 14:57:23

That's what I think too. But Skurwy has a point too. If my characters are LClike, so that means that they need to use as least colors as possible.

CaptainBinky · Mon 03/04/2006 14:59:13

True, however, you can make your art look "like" LC but that doesn't mean you have to replicate every constraint that they were under. Why restrict yourself? I think what you have looks nice, and is reminicent of LC.

Edit: The thing is, I read a lot of the threads on the Critics Lounge (even though I don't respond to many). And loads seem to veer off on a tangent of "you're using too many colours", or "here is my paintover and it's 6 colours". This is all well and good, but I think as a rule you should worry more about whether the pose is nice, or the character looks right and less about how may colours you're using.