adventure man

BOYD1981 · Sat 15/04/2006 19:26:52

Quote from: Ace_Gamer on Sat 15/04/2006 19:16:57
Quote from: BOYD1981 on Sat 15/04/2006 19:03:53
you're just a big stupid .

*sarcasticaly*: mmm, yea that sounds real matureÃ,Â :

look I'm just giving my opinion- let me ask you: would you want to play a game with these types of graphics? i don't think you would. the game could be absolutly brilliant but if the graphics don't match then it would let itself down immensly.

i would play a game with ANY type of graphics because i'm not a graphics nazi like you obviously are. and this isn't the place for your opinions, it's the place for critics. and besides whatever you may think, saying that it's crap is not critics, it's just rude, not even i'm that rude.

IM NOT TEH SPAM · Sat 15/04/2006 22:59:11

My critics are that it would be better if it wasn't posted here. Stickmen aren't meant for the crit's lounge, and calling crap what it is is acceptable. There is no help anyone could give rolf to improve it, because it is just a couple of lines. I would not like to play a game with that kind of graphics, and call me a fascist all you like, but i would probably have a seizure if i was hit by a constant movement like that. This thread should've been locked, or atleast someone point out that ITS A FREAKIN' STICKMAN. You can't fix it with shading, and there's no way to make it better.

IMO, this thread should be locked... but I'm not a mod so tough shit for me.

BOYD1981 · Sat 15/04/2006 23:49:11

how do you know that wasn't the style he's going for?
if you check out his logo post you'll see the graphic style is a lot different to this.
i've played AGS games with much worse graphics than this.

MarVelo · Sun 16/04/2006 04:13:03

I would actually like to play a game with characters like this. A lot of online games have such graphics and I still like them. It would be interesting and different.

cpage · Sun 16/04/2006 08:17:50

Quote from: BOYD1981 on Sat 15/04/2006 23:49:11

i've played AGS games with much worse graphics than this.

As have I

Quote from: Ace_Gamer on Sat 15/04/2006 19:16:57
let me ask you: would you want to play a game with these types of graphics? i don't think you would.

YES!

Quote from: Lord Nipper on Sat 15/04/2006 22:59:11
but I'm not a mod so tough shit for me.

Thats right!

Look he has a logo that is awsome He is capable of much better BUT he chose this style for the character!
I like my good buddy Bill we go way back, I've know hime since he was a little pixel and i have to say unless you are going to make a crit go back to the general board and leave the thread alone. I'm also not a mod but I am disgusted with the way some of you "artists" are conducting yourselves!

Rolf: Ignore the rude comments please! I was looking at your Sprite a bit more and here are all the things that stand out to me
1. As I said before the stance could be corrected so it doesnt look like he is going to fall over

2. maybe clean the lines A BIT as I said before I am a big fan of the sketchy look!
3. Add a couple more in betweens and that animation will be smokin!

Chris

Renal Shutdown · Mon 17/04/2006 13:02:17

http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?action=search&sterm=jon+stickman&submit=Search%21

A game with a stickman. Are you saying it's crap?

I hope not, since games aren't always about graphics. Jon Stickman was more about a concept. The same could apply here. For all we know, Bill might be a character who's world is the pages of a sketchbook. (An idea I've been thinking about developing for a while).

Just because you don't like the graphics, doesn't give you the right to tell people it's crap. Whenever you post something to get cristicism, remind to come in a slate it because it's not how I think it should be.

If it's cartoony, I'll whine about how it should be more realistic. If it's realistic, I'll cry about how it should be cartoony. If you draw a dog I'll say it should be a cat, and if you draw a cat I'll tell you it should be a giraffe on steroids. Moreover, whatever it is, I'll start by saying it's sh*t.

Actually, scratch that. I won't, since I'm not an arrogant, opinionated asshole with nothing better to do than insult other people's creative work.

Scorpio_Phoenix · Mon 17/04/2006 13:08:16

I think its cute!

Games dont have to have amazing graphics to be good! I would play a game with graphics like that!
You dont have to make top quality games to use this site do u?? I dont think so,.....
Stop being mean to the poor little stick man!

Ace_Gamer · Mon 17/04/2006 16:20:46

but his 'drawings' are'nt proper stick men (if they are stickmen at all) they are just lines thrown together to make a figure. stickmen yes. these drawings no. they aren't neat, they are messy. i think i know the style he may be after: as if the 'audience' can see a little kids dream or story. but even then, these are still way too messy.

so to round things up: Stickmen are fine, These drawings are not

big brother · Mon 17/04/2006 19:17:19

That criticism is not helpful at all. Calling his work "not fine" won't tell him where he can improve.
I don't mind the figures so much myself. I'm mainly puzzled whyhe posted them in the CL. What specifically would you like crits on? What style are you trying to achieve?
Without the answers to these questions, how can we say the sprites don't work?

Disco · Tue 18/04/2006 05:54:46

Back to the crit... perhaps you should have the hair growing between the first and last frames, or have the hair consistent throughout the animation. Both would be acceptabe ammendments

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Ace_Gamer · Tue 18/04/2006 15:27:40

to improve this character(?) you should add a propper body. keep the style (sketchy) but draw a proper body

eg:
heres a very quick sketch.

or you could try something like this:

see how i drew a traditional stickman then 'built' a proper body shape around it?

Scummbuddy · Tue 18/04/2006 15:35:36

But that is still a completly different style. I'm actually okay with this style and would like to see more.

We're not jumping on him for putting up bad work. For rolf at least attempted at several frames, but we would like to see more work, or learn more about their projected style, as mentioned before, we can not crit what we don't know what you're going for.

skw · Tue 18/04/2006 17:47:14

I'm afraid he lost interest on the project after that few "incidents" on the General Discussion board.

Renal Shutdown · Wed 19/04/2006 00:47:56

I've suspected he's a fake user for a while, my last posts haven't been in praise of Rolf, but in disgust at what some people think counts as "constructive criticism". If you think it's sh*t, fine. Think that, but don't post it. Let the people who are more mature and tactful deal with those threads.

Also, Ace.. Those two pics aren't even the same resolution as Rolf's. It's like saying "improve these c64 graphics, by making them in 32-bit color at 1024x768 resolution with anti-aliasing".

Superman's right arm is wonky, by the way.

Andail · Wed 19/04/2006 13:45:29

As cynicism struck me this morning, I'm just tempted to make this hypothesis:
What if someone started a fake account, went to the critics lounge with the intention of publishing the absolutely worst pictures ever concieved, just to check the responses?

If this is the case, I must say that I'm proud of the pedagogical spirit people here have displayed.
It proves that the quality of art can never reach the depths where CL-residents deem it not worthwile to provide useful feedback.

lo_res_man · Wed 19/04/2006 17:17:09

Now I agree that doing stickman art doesn't mean BAD. (we had a MAGS were it was required) it is the animation that is bad. it appears, as you say andrail, to be simply a try to be as bad as possible. thats all.

BOYD1981 · Wed 19/04/2006 19:44:36

well it wasn't actually "Rolf" that made the animation, he made several poses and somebody else animated it.

lo_res_man · Wed 19/04/2006 20:02:24

well except for the hair in one, the pictures seemed to be connected in an animated way. even if they were not animated at first. as for calling them poses, the legs were EXACTLY the same.