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Creative Production => Critics' Lounge => Topic started by: lo_res_man on Tue 15/04/2008 04:01:55

Title: Another Attempt at 3D
Post by: lo_res_man on Tue 15/04/2008 04:01:55
Heres is my latest attempt at 3D modeling.
(http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/4/14/f_rocketmanm_bffb8f5.jpg) (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/4/4/14/f_rocketmanm_bffb8f5.jpg&srv=img28)
Its not very good, but I like to think it is much better then the first one I put up here.
So anything you can say would be welcome, but informed critiques would be most beneficial.
Thank you
Lo_Res_Man
Title: Re: Another Attempt at 3D
Post by: None on Tue 15/04/2008 07:15:39
I must have missed your first ONE? Please reply with a link to your old topic thread? As for how it looks, only thing I don't like is the cone at the bottom, something about the way it's colored seems incongrous with the rest of the uh, rocketship?
7/10 Stars[*******''']
Title: Re: Another Attempt at 3D
Post by: cat on Tue 15/04/2008 09:40:19
I like it! It looks like it has been taken from a Wallace and Gromit movie  :D
Title: Re: Another Attempt at 3D
Post by: Buckethead on Tue 15/04/2008 09:44:21
hey nice for a 2nd attempt! You got a nice shape going on. Can we see the wireframe? Then we can critic on the modeling it self.
Title: Re: Another Attempt at 3D
Post by: lo_res_man on Tue 15/04/2008 18:47:31
(http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/4/4/15/f_srocketshipm_074b1db.gif) (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/4/4/15/f_srocketshipm_074b1db.gif&srv=img30)
Heres the wire frame in an isometric type view.
ShonenAiGuy
This isn't my second model, just the second model I have shared with this admittedly wonderful community. The nozzle of the rocket is actually the same material as the the fins and nose-spike, so the incongruities must be from lighting.
THIS was my first model, http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=31717.0 and the first model that looked like something,

Title: Re: Another Attempt at 3D
Post by: None on Tue 15/04/2008 21:52:10
You did that in ANIM8R?  I always found Anim8r interface counter-intuitive. As in, I'm too stupid to use it properly! LOL, I'd love to see you use Anim8r in combination with Google Sketchup Pro, then export it to a high-class render/lighting program, would be majorly sweet.
Title: Re: Another Attempt at 3D
Post by: lo_res_man on Tue 15/04/2008 22:14:55
I would but the reason I use anim8or is that its FREE. Google Sketchup Pro costs over $200, not in my budget. As for lighting I haven't delved into that part of anim8or,s so the problems are most likely inexperience, things a 'high-class render/lighting program' are unlikely to solve. But thanks for the compliment.
Title: Re: Another Attempt at 3D
Post by: None on Tue 15/04/2008 22:32:50
Not gonna mention, illegal downloads, not gonna, not gonna, not gonna.  :o
Title: Re: Another Attempt at 3D
Post by: lo_res_man on Tue 15/04/2008 22:48:22
Not gonna do, illegal downloads, not gonna, not gonna, not gonna. 
That would be. . . dishonourable. >:(
* * *
Except Abandonware. ;)
Title: Re: Another Attempt at 3D
Post by: Captain Lexington on Tue 15/04/2008 23:47:06
All right, Lo Res Men! We can start a club! "People Too Honorable to Download things Illegally Except Abandonware."

I think it'd just be us.

I tried Anim8r back when Moray was fritzing out on me, didn't like it so much.

For free, though, I used Moray for years.

Now I use Blender.

I'd recommend either, but Blender moreso.

Of course, that is, if your unhappy with Anim8r. And it doesn't seem like you are.

I'm just rambling on and on and on and on...


EDIT: Where are my manners?

Very nice! Those graphics are perfectly workable in a 2D adventure game, my only criticism is in design: I would myself make the rocket skinnier. That's all.
Title: Re: Another Attempt at 3D
Post by: InCreator on Wed 16/04/2008 00:12:48
Nothing much to crit here.
With minimal poly count and a minimal idea, you achieved maximum result making a minimalistic model.

It looks nice, if that's what you want to hear.
But there's nothing to improve or change, in my opinion. It almost feels like when someone draws circles 8 hours a day, for 40 years, and then, one day - draws another circle & asks what people think about it.

It's simply well done.
You can model a cartoony rocket.

Try something more challenging next time.

And - http://www.turbosquid.com/gmax
Title: Re: Another Attempt at 3D
Post by: lo_res_man on Wed 16/04/2008 00:23:19
Actually its like someone who drew circles for a few years, tried to sculpt a sphere couldn't do it, couldn't do it, stopped tried again, did a cube, but couldn't grasp the sphere, then FINALLY something clicked, And then they did this. This is simplistic yes, but its the most complex thing I have ever done in 3D.  It took me about 12 hours. I am already working on another thing, and it will be more complex then this.
Title: Re: Another Attempt at 3D
Post by: Stupot on Wed 16/04/2008 00:25:47
I feel it should have four of those little yellow things (i don't know what they're called) instead of 2... for symmetry's sake mainly.

I don't have a lot else to add other than it reminds me of Magikarp (http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/magikarp.gif)!

Title: Re: Another Attempt at 3D
Post by: lo_res_man on Wed 16/04/2008 04:14:29
Well, I was 'instructed' to do something more complex, so here is my next attempt. . .
(http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/4/15/f_beachscenem_9c64caa.png) (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/4/4/15/f_beachscenem_9c64caa.png&srv=img29)
I don't understand why the bump mapping doesn't bump the entire castle. . .
Title: Re: Another Attempt at 3D
Post by: InCreator on Wed 16/04/2008 05:17:46
* Don't know which software you use, but castle bump map might be partial because of improper or missing UV map. In 3ds Max I would probably group whole castle together and apply UV mapping to whole. UV map also seems to fail on tower crenelations
* The ground/sand looks a bit too low-poly and boring. Sharper texture and more bumps could fix it.
* The handle is clearly too large for such a small bucket. But maybe there are toys like this? Not sure really, it just looks kinda weird.
* The shovel looks magnificent. Even a bit out of the place since everything else looks very simple and "doable in few minutes". But shovel is much more complex and... well, if I had to remodel it, I wouldn't know where to start.
* Moving bucket a bit lower on Z axis, through ground plane, would give more realistic look - like it were inside the sand.
* Shadows?

Anyway, it looks quite cool. A bit smoother (chamfered) edges on castle, higher camera angle (too much empty space on image) and it would be perfect.