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Creative Production => Critics' Lounge => Topic started by: Technocrat on Mon 25/05/2009 16:22:44

Title: At your convenience - the inside of this shop seems rather understocked.
Post by: Technocrat on Mon 25/05/2009 16:22:44

Hm...I think I've gotten the perspectives and such right, I just need to makethis shop seem...more full. Right now I'm having trouble making the shelves look better stocked when I'm using this resolution. Any suggestions?

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o33/Nedraed/shop.png)
Title: Re: At your convenience - the inside of this shop seems rather understocked.
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Mon 25/05/2009 18:10:07
I did a very similar background awhile back ... the trick was just cramming stuff into the shop!  I just started adding and then tried to fill up all available space.  It depends on the type of shop this is supposed to be I guess.  My shop was an antiques shop so I cluttered it up BIG time.  I would suggest adding in some foreground elements as well to make it fill a bit more "full" in there.

Here is what I did:
(http://www.twin-design.com/aok/graphics/screenie_inside.png)

Hope it helps!
Title: Re: At your convenience - the inside of this shop seems rather understocked.
Post by: Sam. on Mon 25/05/2009 22:03:16
remind me why we stopped making that?
Title: Re: At your convenience - the inside of this shop seems rather understocked.
Post by: nihilyst on Mon 25/05/2009 22:21:33
Yeah, I think Darth has a point there. Your store looks nice overall, but I never saw one with shelves that empty.

Although it's a completely different style and is somehow an extreme example, see how the mass of products conveys the illusion of a "real" store. -> Click here (http://www.longwayhome.de/down/shot0001.jpg)
Title: Re: At your convenience - the inside of this shop seems rather understocked.
Post by: GarageGothic on Mon 25/05/2009 23:00:21
The main problem, as I see it, is that there's only one of every item. In a real store there could easily be half a meter of shelf space filled with identical boxes, bottles or whatnot.

Check these screenshots from the Leisure Suit Larry games for comparison:

(http://shadowplaygame.googlepages.com/1078075457-00.png)

(http://shadowplaygame.googlepages.com/997091678-00.gif)

(http://shadowplaygame.googlepages.com/1193522374-04.png)
Title: Re: At your convenience - the inside of this shop seems rather understocked.
Post by: Jakerpot on Tue 26/05/2009 02:00:14
Oh my!  :o Darth Mandrab, this is soooooo awsome!  :D how you made all this shadows and texture effects? Probably photoshop, but i want to know how. If you made a tutorial would be aawwssoommee!  ;D
Thank you.
Title: Re: At your convenience - the inside of this shop seems rather understocked.
Post by: Arclight on Tue 26/05/2009 02:21:32
Yeah, I've got to say that's great. I'd especially be interested in knowing how you did the wood grain.
Title: Re: At your convenience - the inside of this shop seems rather understocked.
Post by: Andail on Tue 26/05/2009 09:43:11
I think your background works pretty well. It has a very clean and functional retro-style, even though it's not very realistic. I would certainly accept it as a shop, albeit a rather sparsely stocked one.

Darth's ol' curiosity shop is definitely one of the better shop interiors I've ever seen pixelated for a game background. I also think it's one of your finest pieces, Darth.
Title: Re: At your convenience - the inside of this shop seems rather understocked.
Post by: Dualnames on Tue 26/05/2009 10:37:54
The background is quite good, but the items on the shelves seem to be done in quite a hurry. They're all coloured RGBY, and I just think you need to do some effort and add cool stuff.
Title: Re: At your convenience - the inside of this shop seems rather understocked.
Post by: paolo on Tue 26/05/2009 14:04:44
Most convenience stores have several rows of shelves. I would suggest putting one along the left-hand wall (perhaps a fruit and veg stand?) and one or two more between this one and the one that's already there. This will partially block the view of the counter but will make your shop look more realistic. (If this means you can't see the counter, then maybe the viewpoint is wrong; the Larry Vales images have several rows of shelves and use a different viewpoint so that you can see the counter.)

The items in a convenience store would be crammed together rather than spaced out. These items currently look more like exhibits in an art gallery. Space is at a premium in convenience stores and owners try to pack things into every available cubic inch. The items don't have to be individually recognisable.

Some ideas regarding the colours... A lot of things in real life come in light-coloured packages rather than dark ones and usually have pictures on their containers.

You could always try looking at a real-life convenience store for more ideas.
Title: Re: At your convenience - the inside of this shop seems rather understocked.
Post by: heribertovalle on Mon 01/06/2009 03:02:12
Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Mon 25/05/2009 18:10:07
I did a very similar background awhile back ... the trick was just cramming stuff into the shop!  I just started adding and then tried to fill up all available space.  It depends on the type of shop this is supposed to be I guess.  My shop was an antiques shop so I cluttered it up BIG time.  I would suggest adding in some foreground elements as well to make it fill a bit more "full" in there.

Here is what I did:
(http://www.twin-design.com/aok/graphics/screenie_inside.png)

Hope it helps!

That's one amazing background! Nice style you've got there!
Title: Re: At your convenience - the inside of this shop seems rather understocked.
Post by: Knox on Mon 01/06/2009 06:01:06
Wow...I agree, thats freeeeakin nice! HOw'd you do it Mandarb?