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Title: business cards...
Post by: Nikolas on Mon 02/06/2008 16:00:48
Hellos!

I'm not making these, so not quite sure really... But I would like an opinion from you lovely people of AGS! :)

(http://www.nikolas-sideris.com/AGS/sideris_karts_new.jpg)

1 2
3 4
5 6

Just so that we can communicate! :D

I personally prefer the simpler stuff and I find that some of them give an impression more... specific that I want to be. To explain. I'm trying to balance a 'dual' career of sorts. One in computer games and general media, and one in the classical.

No. 2 seems rather classically oriented while No. 4 more towards a band or something, more... energetic maybe (with shows, concerts, etc) than me!

But this is my opinion.

For anyone who doesn't know what I do, feel free to drop by my website (www.nikolas-sideris.com) and see for yourselves.

Any ideas, specifically for any card, preferances, or advice is most welcome! :)
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: GarageGothic on Mon 02/06/2008 16:11:51
I see what you're trying to do, but very few of the images actually makes me think about music. Although fractals are used in audio visualizers, they don't really connect directly to sound and music. How about using a graphic of an audio waveform? I think it could be quite simple and stylish and immediately make the person who sees it think of sound (if they have professional interest in audio, they know what a waveform looks like). Perhaps something very graphic black-and-white like the cover of Joy Division's Unknown Pleasures album (http://dumbfoundedone.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/most-iconic-album-cover/).

Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: cat on Mon 02/06/2008 16:43:04
I like the first one best, it has the most interesting layout and looks very professional. However, I do not recognise the picture. Maybe you could use a photo that is somewhat related to music?
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: Nikolas on Mon 02/06/2008 16:46:03
Thanks garagegothic! What you say makes sense! :)

Cat: If I know my sound designer well enough, this is probably some extre zoomed in animal or something... The eyes of a lizard, etc... :p She does things like this all the time! :D The tricks of the trade I guess! :)

Thanks for posting
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: Buckethead on Mon 02/06/2008 16:51:14
All these background images look rather blurry. I would get something sharp. An image of something that is related to you. Perhaps an instrument you use alot. Then add some simple very well readable text.

What I'm trying to say is:

make somthing sharp and simple that gets the messages across.  ;)
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: SSH on Mon 02/06/2008 16:52:56
Thanks for your phone number, btw ;)
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: Nikolas on Mon 02/06/2008 16:57:00
Images are scaled down 50% and jpg. Not sure if the final product will be blurry or not, but point taken.

Andrew: By all means, grab the phone, no probs! I can change it anytime, it's pay as you go! ;)
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: TwinMoon on Mon 02/06/2008 17:13:51
Probably the record for most unusual critic request ;)

Personally, I like it simple too.
Something very high contrast like #4 (while giving that immediate association with music) doesn't look very nice to me, but #6 does. But with a waveform instead of a fractal it would be more fitting.
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: GarageGothic on Mon 02/06/2008 17:23:14
I find this rather conservative and dull, but I like the simplicity of it:



I also made this alternate version, but I think it gets a bit messy:



Playing around with different ideas, I found that it's probably best to keep the text and image parts separated. Keep in mind that the actual information on the card is the main focus. Anything that makes it difficult to read the text is a problem.

Edit: Also, I think you need a very good reason to make a business card in color. If you're a graphic designer or similar, it makes sense. For most other people it just seems a bit flashy.

Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Mon 02/06/2008 19:23:01
I've always been a fan of super simple business cards ... and I find jet-black to be super-sexy and elegant.  I also have always really liked portrait cards (rather than landscape)

I did a few quick ideas for you:

(http://www.twin-design.com/ags/help/card01.gif) (http://www.twin-design.com/ags/help/card02.gif) (http://www.twin-design.com/ags/help/card03.gif)

Now ... all of these feel "text heavy" to me.

So I did up a 2-sided version (if you were willing to use full color I'm assuming you don't mind spending a little bit on these cards (and 2-sided black and white is usually cheaper than 1-sided full color!))

(http://www.twin-design.com/ags/help/card04_front.gif) (http://www.twin-design.com/ags/help/card04_back.gif)
(this could also work in portrait layout as well)

I have both the PSD files if you need/want them
Template Landscape (~260k) (http://www.twin-design.com/ags/help/template_landscape.psd)
Template Portrait (~290k) (http://www.twin-design.com/ags/help/template_portrait.psd)

Anyway ... feel free to use/not use them as you see fit!  I hope it was helpful!

~ darth
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: Questionable on Mon 02/06/2008 19:24:14
Me and My Girlfriend agree #2 & 4 are the best ones.

If you put a different image on #1, then it would be a contender, too; though, right now it looks like a blue tongue.
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: Dualnames on Mon 02/06/2008 20:03:31
Ok, Fourth is cool if you were a rock start. Its impressive but it would get you barely anywhere. First and second are quite boring and use images wasting color and space for no reason. 5 and 6 have the same feeling, kind of phychedelic and it would be good. But I consider 3 the very best. Simple, concentrates on information and not impression, and that's the thing a pro needs I believe. Garagegothic's edit is the coolest i think.
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: Andail on Mon 02/06/2008 21:05:12
I'm not particularly fond of the first ones on display there, Nik...

Both GG's and Darth's are better, especially the simple elegance of Darth's note there...really nice.
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: GarageGothic on Mon 02/06/2008 22:37:08
I like Darths third example with the subtle, grey note. If you could get it produced with a glossy finish for the black and the note in a matte finish, or the other way around, it could be super sexy. What I personally like about my own second example is that it visualizes both the composing and sound design skills. If you could work in a thin, lighter gray waveform line behind Darth's note, I think it could look very nice.
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: Damien on Mon 02/06/2008 22:53:40
Just a quickie I did, separating the text with a fancy fold:

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/DrunkyDuck/Help/Card.jpg)

I can post the .psd file if you want.


Also, I'd like to see Darth's design but with a treble clef instead of a note. Might fill the space better.
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: LimpingFish on Mon 02/06/2008 23:05:39
Running with the note/symbol motif:

(http://homepage.eircom.net/~limpingfish/Card02%20copy.png)

Or something very simple:

(http://homepage.eircom.net/~limpingfish/Card01%20copy.png)

The red could be shiny/embossed, and the text could be matt/embossed.

Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: Sylvr on Tue 03/06/2008 01:21:24
The new ones are pretty cool, but out of the original 6 I like the 6th best, but no particular reasons  ;D
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: Vince Twelve on Tue 03/06/2008 07:28:39
(http://www.xiigames.com/misc/nikbusiness1.png)
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: Nikolas on Tue 03/06/2008 08:31:34
First of all, thank you all for helping out! I really appreciate it! :)

twinmoon: Yup, unusual indeed! ;D But see? I'm almost at page 2! ;D hihi! not so high contrast then, indeed...

garagegothic: Thanks for the ideas. I'm not particularly fond of either the piano idea, or the clef idea. The piano gives a more... pianistic feeling to the card (especially Vince's edit) which would be PERFECT for a pianist (I might sell it), and yours is more generic in all honesty and the idea to seperate the text from the image is good!

Darth: Thank you man! I appreciate your effort (and the files, as well :)) I also think that the jet black is very sexy, glossy and stuff, so I'll probably use it, plus the 2 sided one, sounds a very good idea. :)

Dualnames: I'm with you I think. Out of the 6 I do prefer No.3 as well. Maybe it's the Greek thing? ;D

Andail: Cheers mate!

Damien: This is totally pianistic. (Vince yours as well).

and thanks chris!

Phew...

This covers all I think!

Generally some great edits, some great ideas, some brilliant cards. Some ideas a bit further than what I am, others spot on, I'll keep some, and match and match... ;)

Thank you all! You are brilliant!
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: Peder 🚀 on Tue 03/06/2008 10:33:32
Quote from: Nikolas on Tue 03/06/2008 08:31:34
Dualnames: I'm with you I think. Out of the 6 I do prefer No.3 as well. Maybe it's the Greek thing? ;D

Must be a Norwegian thing to cause I prefer No.3 to :P.
Of all the edits I prefer Darths 2 sided version!
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: vict0r on Tue 03/06/2008 10:42:56
Quote from: Peder Johnsen on Tue 03/06/2008 10:33:32
Must be a Norwegian thing to cause I prefer No.3 to :P.
Of all the edits I prefer Darths 2 sided version!

Naah, I prefer the first one :D Had it been another pic of course! But the general layout of the first looks the best and most professional.
But I agree on Darths edit. That's awesome! :)
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: Neil Dnuma on Tue 03/06/2008 12:04:39
I like #1 too... I looked at it for quite some time, trying to figure out what the photo was of..
#4 makes me think of commercial music.
I might do business with #5 or #6, but only for synth music.
#2 and #3 are okay, bit dull.
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: vertigoaddict on Tue 03/06/2008 12:08:14
Me likes these!  ;D

LimpingFish

(http://homepage.eircom.net/~limpingfish/Card02%20copy.png)

Vince Twelve link

(http://www.xiigames.com/misc/nikbusiness1.png)

Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Tue 03/06/2008 14:06:54
Cheers Nik!  Glad you like it!

The reason I chose the note I did was because it represented music to me ... and I'm a VERY non-music person!  I figured on that symbol because if I thought of music when I saw it then so would other non-musical sorts like me.  I made a leap and assumed that the people you'd be giving these cards to would, like wise, be non-musical types (or they'd not need the card and would do their own music!).  So it made sense to use a "univeral" symbol of music!

I really like how LimpingFish incorporated the N shape of the note into your name!  I thought of doing that as well, but wasn't sure it would be clear enough as an "N" but it looks pretty cool!  I still feel it's too much though (too busy I mean) ... but that's just personal preference!  I like a completely sleek/sexy look like my two-sider!  Again ... that's just me :)

Keep us posted!
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: Nyu001 on Tue 03/06/2008 15:44:58
What is the image in the first card? I have no idea what is that. Looks like under the sea.

The second card is the only that I liked a bit really. But feels it miss something plus don't evocate the music in anything. So, is not representing you as a composer or someone that works with music.

The third card I find it not so profesional and not evocative. 

The fourth obviously looks more like a card to invite someone to a concert!

The last two cards are too abstracts for to think is from a musician. It don't show music elements that people can understand.

Why don't you get a logo with your name? ;)

At LimpingFish: I Liked the implementation of the music note as the "N" of Nikolas. Still not so recognisable, at least for me, but is very nice! Also missed a comma between London & U.K. or is it ok like that in U.K.?

I think the cards should be simple to show the message clear, better and fast but still needing an element that will let the other person to think is a musician, composer or sound designer. Like the example the other people did here. :D

Oh, avoid much colours! Or use gradiant of black  & white or other colour added. Money, money, money! =P
Title: Re: business cards...
Post by: Dualnames on Tue 03/06/2008 22:01:47
Must be the Greek-Norwigian Thing. Or its the we have blended taste thing. No offence to others... :D