(http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu183/Krishaw/untitled-Por.jpg)
(http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu183/Krishaw/untitled.jpg)
These images are for two alternate realities in a horror game I was thinking of making. I want to be able to make it so that in one reality, the rooms are black and white and look relatively normal while in the other reality, colour is restored with a "haunted" look. Do these photos look alright?
Also: I would KILL for somebody who would be willing to take up job of graphics design because, frankly, I hate this. If anyone's willing to make sprites and backgrounds I would love if you could help. I'll give you the biggest hug if you could help ;D.
Thanks in advance.
Sorry to bump on the same day as the post but I really want to know if anyone can help.
Hi, just a comment first: I thought the b'n'w was the horror one, but this actually might be "creepier."
Well I can offer some non-expert advice, I'm sure there are other, more qualified, people, but:
- the perspective is off, check the lines and angles if they meet in 1 point (for example the right end of the carpet), view some of the other backgrounds in the critic
lounge and you'll see that's the most common mistake and most of the artsy people here spot that quickly (not me though, that's why I try too read these topics as much as I can)
- that blood (if that is blood) looks a bit unnatural, I think it would make more of a puddle not just artery spatter
- doors maybe could use a frame around them
- oh and maybe the most important, and I don't know if it's because it's a work in progress, but a light source and general lighting always adds to the atmosphere of the scene
- other things might be a just your style of drawing so that's about it from me, hope it helps
Quote from: anian on Sat 18/04/2009 22:47:04
Hi, just a comment first: I thought the b'n'w was the horror one, but this actually might be "creepier."
Well I can offer some non-expert advice, I'm sure there are other, more qualified, people, but:
- the perspective is off, check the lines and angles if they meet in 1 point (for example the right end of the carpet), view some of the other backgrounds in the critic
lounge and you'll see that's the most common mistake and most of the artsy people here spot that quickly (not me though, that's why I try too read these topics as much as I can)
- that blood (if that is blood) looks a bit unnatural, I think it would make more of a puddle not just artery spatter
- doors maybe could use a frame around them
- oh and maybe the most important, and I don't know if it's because it's a work in progress, but a light source and general lighting always adds to the atmosphere of the scene
- other things might be a just your style of drawing so that's about it from me, hope it helps
First off: The reason I'm using black and white as "normal" is because the colour seems to emphasise the surroundings. I'm trying to make this a horror house trapped between two time zones (The black and white being a past version of the house) and the player being able to access both through a fairly bad reason I can't say without referencing the weak plot ;D.
Anyway:
-I did notice the lines were off but whenever I alter them it just looks worse ???. I will work on it though because it does look... odd.
-The puddle in the middle does look odd now I look at it. Thanks. I don't know how I didn't notice it.
- I'll add doorframes. It looks bad without them doesn't it.
- I'll try and fit in a light. I don't know why I didn't originally fit one ::).
-I'm not good at art and never was. I don't think Microsoft paint is the best thing to use but it's the easiest.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback. I'll address those issues but at the moment I'm only using these as a "fall back". I'd really love if someone else could do backgrounds along this design instead.
I think I have solved a couple of perspective issues (I don't pretend to be any good at perspective I just try a few simple rules and the results seem to look ok (I can only seem to do 1 point perspective also))
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/bnw.png)
I did this using the same method I layed out in this post (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=35687.msg476107#msg476107/)
How many BG are you looking at making?
As for the coloured one (I desaturated the colours a little):
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/bnw3.png)
But the B&W one I feel is quite lifeless (and not in a good way) if it was me Id show it like this:
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/bnw4.png)
But it's your game :)
What is the red stuff on the floor supposed to be? Blood?
At the moment, it looks a bit like someone dropped a load of liquorice.
Yeah, I just did a quick paint over zoomed in lol.. have only just seen the mess haha
man, you perspective is really wrong. Take a look on my topic about my basement backgrond in the critics lounge. It has a "tutorial" about perspective, if you want to correct it, of course! I took the freedom to make a paint over on it and change the red liquid to blood. I vanished the black outlines. I don't like them anymore. You shouldn't like them too. I wish you like it.
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/paintoverJP.PNG)
EDIT: Never use jpg. they suck.
Quote from: Jakerpot on Sun 19/04/2009 02:33:04
man, you perspective is really wrong.
Erm did you paint over my paint over and just change the perspective of the door? ???
Quote from: Jakerpot on Sun 19/04/2009 02:33:04
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/paintoverJP.PNG)
Woah. That looks WAY better than mine. Like I said it's only just a rough draft at the moment as I'm looking for someone to do backgrounds for me. And yes to everyone, the blood effects are the worst you'll ever see in a game. And YES the perspective is wrong. I never said I was good at art. Anyway, thanks for the feedback.
Also,
The black and white is pretty lifeless I thought but I can't really liven it up with anything. Also, I'm looking to make around 8 backgrounds and their "horror" look.
Edit by ProgZ: Please don't quote entire posts, especially images. A single image reference is okay but unnecessary since most of the threads never get long enough to be confusing. Thanks!
Quote from: krishaw on Sun 19/04/2009 11:26:05
The black and white is pretty lifeless I thought but I can't really liven it up with anything. Also, I'm looking to make around 8 backgrounds and their "horror" look.
What did you think towards living them up with the sepia colour and scratching shadows effect?
Also if it's just 8 bg draw them, through them up and im sure people will make sure ur perspective is correct amongst other things..
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What did you think towards living them up with the sepia colour and scratching shadows effect?
I think I might go for the brown-ish effect but I'm not sure I like the scratching shadows effect.
If you really just want to do 8ish bg and not do them yourself, PM me the 8 that you draw (B&W and 'horror' coloured (so16 really)) and I will bring them up to this standard within a day of receiving them. It's up to you, I would always urge people to try themselves as this helps you gain skills. But it is your decision.
Thanks! I will try and do them first though. But I really would like a hand in just cleaning them up a little if you don't mind.
Thats fine.. and as i said Im sure others will lend a helping hand.. :)
I toyed with your background a little bit because I found it sort of inspiring.. Anyway, I don't know if you'll find this useful, but here goes:
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/Kastchey/t-r01-001.png)
I made a small perspective adjustment and added a light source. Also shaded the outlines and did some other minor changes.
Thanks! I'll use it.
Edit:
I made only the slightest change, the thing on the bottom right was supposed to be a lever. My fault really.
I also did the "Other" version in sepia. I know it looks bland but it's only use is to be at the start of the game. Anyway, tell me what I can do. Thanks again Kastchey, I like that shot.
(http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu183/Krishaw/Basement_with_colour.jpg)
(http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu183/Krishaw/Basementwithcolour.png)
I like it. nice style...
I like it.
One thing that bothers me though is the depth of the cupboard. Looks a bit big.
Just wanted to chime in at Kastchey..
I really like the changes you made, with the light source and such. It really made it pop.
-Bill
oh no, you used jpeg again... >:(
Quote from: Jakerpot on Sat 25/04/2009 00:51:05
oh no, you used jpeg again... >:(
So whut? No need to cut off his...ears. ;)
Ahm, is it just me or the room is too tidy. Yes, there are tiny spots of blood here and there, but all the inpression I get is that nothing monstrous happened there. :( Add some broken furniture, torn appart wall-paper. Obivously whoever was killed wasn't send to the other world just by one single shot/hit since there are blood-spots on the wall, cupboard and carpet. So there was some kind of fight.
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/Kastchey/xd-1.png)
Sorry.. couldn't resist XD
LOL, what the hell?! Only five liters of blood per person, please. This looks like somebody killed an elephant with hemophilia in there.
It could have been an elephant for all you know. As well as a group of five victims, all killed in this single room. They'll all fit inside the rolled carpet if you slice them well enough.
Actually, this was rather meant as a joke edit, not a serious reply... so lol indeed =)
(and rbaleksandar might have a point about the hints of a bloody fight in the room IF there had been one, which we don't know)
lol That IS too much :D:D:D btw Why is the carpet rolled up? After making such a mess nobody's going even too look at it. ;D
Quote from: rbaleksandar on Sat 25/04/2009 16:38:04
lol That IS too much :D:D:D btw Why is the carpet rolled up? After making such a mess nobody's going even too look at it. ;D
Well it's rolled up so you don't suspect there was a murder there - no body, no crime...those liters of blood don't prove anything. ;D
onT: Yeah, maybe a few more details like dropped open books, broken chair or a vase, something like that on the floor might make it more interesting. Beauty (or is it devil) is in the details. ;)
ROFL Good one there, anian. ;D Now let's leave the jokes aside.
Your last edit krishaw, that was inspired by Kastchey's, is really good. I really like Kastchey's second edit, which is - no need to say - way creepier than the first one. Well, yes, there's too much red human fluid everywhere, but if you do something between
(http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu183/Krishaw/Basementwithcolour.png)
and
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/Kastchey/xd-1.png)
it'll be awesome. And again - add some other evidences that you even might use as gameplay-elements like taking a hair from a beneath a broken chair or the carpet, finding some other evidences inside the creepy box (looks like those with spikes from the inside :D). Obviously something terrible happened here (gross if one looks at Kastchey's edit where it's not obvious that someone's killed there ;)). Make it look like a crime scene. Add some more atmosphere.
I just wanted to add this: This is really inspiring as far as horror goes. I love when the background can inspire a feeling of presence and yet there is no enemy around for miles (or so I assume :P)
Anyways, all the stuff here looks great. Sorry for rambling and not adding much to the topic, just wanted to mention I thought all the ideas here were really neat :)