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Creative Production => Critics' Lounge => Topic started by: Moox on Fri 09/07/2004 18:25:42

Title: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Moox on Fri 09/07/2004 18:25:42
This animation isnt turning out right. Its a top view of a bat flying.
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/BatFly.gif)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/BatFly.gif)
I need suggestions or repaints to make it look more like its flying.
Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Eggie on Fri 09/07/2004 18:47:54
Well. the wings look more like the're retracting than flapping.
I know it's hard in low res. But try a little perspective to show the wings re going up and down.
Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Moox on Fri 09/07/2004 18:54:49
The games other artwork is entirely vertical so i cant use prespective in it really
Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Fri 09/07/2004 19:42:57
I didn't think yours was all that bad ...

But I did a little tweak:
(http://www.twin-design.com/ags/help/lost_help02.gif)
(http://www.twin-design.com/ags/help/lost_help02.gif)
Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Ashen on Fri 09/07/2004 19:44:10
My attempt (500%):
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/battop.gif)

and the frames, if you want 'em
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/battop.png)
Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Moox on Fri 09/07/2004 19:45:47
I never thought about curling the wings, thank you both.
Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Moox on Fri 09/07/2004 19:54:42
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/BatFly2.gif)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/BatFly2.gif)

This is what I just came up with, I am thinking about changing the 3rd frame a bit

EDIT:
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/BatFly3.gif)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/BatFly3.gif)

Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Cluey on Fri 09/07/2004 19:59:34
Loads better
Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Fri 09/07/2004 20:04:33
I'm not 100% sure ... but I think the body should stay stationary in relation to the wings' movements.

Although, your newest attempt looks a lot like those bats you'd see in 1950's campy horror movies with the 'herky-jerky' motion like that.Ã,  It really gives a 'batty' impression :)

I can almost see the strings ....
Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Ashen on Fri 09/07/2004 20:19:39
I think there would be a bit of movement to the body (e.g. when the wings start to pull back), but a lot less than there is now. However, I think it'd be difficult to include it, and make it look smooth, in a sprite this size. It probably wouldn't be needed in-game, if the character is going to be moving about anyway.
Also, the way it bobs at the moment makes it look more like a front view than a top view, to me at least. Looking good, though, is it for that RPG you were working on a while ago?
Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Andail on Fri 09/07/2004 22:02:16
Darth, how un-scientific of you! In order for the body to stay stationary, its mass would have to be infinite!

Seriously though; there is still too little movement in the wings. As far as I know, a pair of wings move up and down, I'd say their tips almost touch eachother in the "bottom" of their movement.

I don't know if you're trying to preserve the height of the sprite or something, or why you all persist in giving the bat such a subtle, almost non-existing flapping.

Gosh, I'm harsh today :)
Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Moox on Fri 09/07/2004 22:36:44
I dont want to take up to much space with the animation, as I want the character within attacking distance
Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Moox on Fri 09/07/2004 23:04:42
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/BatFly4.gif)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/BatFly4.gif)

Removed the diamond in frame 3

Better version of above:
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Batfly5.gif)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Batfly5.gif)
Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Evil on Sat 10/07/2004 03:23:37
The wing movement look something more like this shitty ASCII frame drawing.
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Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Al_Ninio on Sat 10/07/2004 03:45:03
Evil,
Quote from: LostTraveler on Fri 09/07/2004 18:25:42
This animation isnt turning out right. Its a top view of a bat flying.

Why don't people read the posts? Argh.

TOP view. You explained about the front view.

Anyway, HUGE improvement. I really like the new version.
Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Andail on Sat 10/07/2004 15:24:24
hehe, I made the same mistake as Evil.

Well anyway, there could still be some more motion to the animation.
I made this very quick attempt:
(http://www.esseb.com/andail/batani.gif)

It's not based on your original sprite, but I just wanted to illustrate my point
Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: DanClarke on Sat 10/07/2004 22:12:57
Quote from: Andail on Sat 10/07/2004 15:24:24
hehe, I made the same mistake as Evil.

Well anyway, there could still be some more motion to the animation.
I made this very quick attempt:
(http://www.esseb.com/andail/batani.gif)

It's not based on your original sprite, but I just wanted to illustrate my point

i think one of the problems here is that theres simply too many frames. Bats beat their wings quickly which means you cant really see the transition from up to down on the wings.
Title: Re: C+C Bat Animation
Post by: Andail on Sun 11/07/2004 16:03:21
My animation has a delay, so that you could easier see the frames. It's actually much faster without the delay.
Ah well, it's not like a fantastic animation either way, but I think it still defines the actual movement in the wings.