Urca demolition -- some tips please?

Started by Lionmonkey, Sat 16/02/2008 11:06:13

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Lionmonkey

So, it appears that even Lionmonkey has made a wannabe masterpiece of...something. Anyway, here's the sound file: 
Here it is.
Wait till the page loads and click the yellow button at the bottom left corner of the page. What I need you to do is to try to listen to this and give me loads of tips on making more of this kind of stuff. I mean, not about this concrete sound file, but about making them in general. Hope you understand what I mean.
The file itself was inspired by many of my philosophical thoughts.

P.S.

In case you are listening this with Media Player Classic, try to click the Increase Speed button once and listen to the file from the beginning for more fun. This is another issue, I would like to discuss: Why do some songs sound better if you accelerate/decelerate them? And how should I choose the approriate speed?

EDIT: Oh, and please post bellow.
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Lionmonkey

Bump: I'm starting to get worried, guys. Someone please post in here, and stop me from thhinking that my sound file is causing mass suicides.
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ThreeOhFour

I was going to post last week, but I tried speeding it up and slowing it down and slowed it down to the point where it took 5 days to get through the song  8).

Here are my thoughts on your song.

First of all. There are lots of bangs at the start, and throughout the song. Why? I agree that bangs can make a song interesting and dynamic if used once, at the climax or end of a song, as you have done. I do not feel like using these strange bangs as a beat makes your song sound good. Just a thought, but good on you for trying something different :).

Secondly, the drum beat. Why this drum beat? I don't want to sound mean but this drum beat is awful. Absolutely awful. There is no variation, no attempts at a drum fill or anything... wow. Please, if you're using samples, find some more varied ones and use more than one in a song. If you're designing the drum beat, perhaps try some 16th notes in there, vary the kick drum and snare timing - the amount of combinations you can come up with a 4/4 time signature and a kick and snare drum is fairly extensive, there is no need to stick to one beat.

Thirdly, the little melody line - I know it probably sounds nice and pop techno dance whatever catchy, but I don't find this sort of melody helps your song. It's there from the start, it's there at the end. Techno is not a form of music I find ultra enjoyable even when done well, so perhaps I'm biased. If you are going to use this form of melody, at least make it more dynamic, because it really is rather repetitive.

Fourth, the bass - why don't you have more bass in here? Basslines help you establish the rythm of a song and give it some depth.

My last suggestion would be to tell you to listen to more music, normal music you hear on the radio, and figure out what makes you enjoy the song more. Simple, effective elements such as the use of a verse-chorus-verse etc structure, key changes, bridges can help make the song interesting to the listener.

I am not a composer of computer music or instrumental - although I am in a band, I do not write songs - so these views are from somebody who doesn't try to do these sort of things and therefore isn't completely experienced with them. I do listen to a lot of music but, and I know what I like. I don't mean to discourage you from making music, and I am not saying that other people will not like your song - these are just suggestions that I feel will help you improve as a songwriter. I can hear that you tried to make a statement by ending with a bang, and that you've got some dynamics in there, but I feel that these don't make the song non-repetitive.

Two last points I'd like to make.

The little click in there annoys me - could just be me being biased.

Speeding up a song is something I used to do on my father's record player with my mother's records and the assistance of my brother - the speed settings were our favourite feature. I do not feel it makes a song any more enjoyable unless you are looking to get some giggles about Rod Stewart sounding like a chipmunk.

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