EDIT 9/12/03:
Added north walkcycle. Please help with this, as the back looks rubbish to me!
I've taken PureGhost's image, changed it a bit and made a walkcycle: please C+C on the walkcycle, folks
(http://www.angelfire.com/space/little_flower/images/hhnorth.gif)(http://www.angelfire.com/space/little_flower/images/Supercompressed_AnimationWizard2.gif)(http://www.angelfire.com/space/little_flower/images/hhtocamera.gif)
OLD EDITED:
OK, so the game has changed around a bit since I originally posted on this (Click on my sig pic to go to Development thread). I'd like some help with the NEW main character, Horemheb and also the other characters Akhenaten and Ay.
Horemheb:
(http://www.angelfire.com/space/little_flower/images/horemheb3.gif)
Ay:
(http://www.angelfire.com/space/little_flower/aye.gif)
Akhenaten
for him, I'd like to try and capture that smug look that he has in his statues, but in my pic he just looks like he's grinning:
(http://www.angelfire.com/space/little_flower/akhenaten.gif)
Here's an Akhenaten pic for ref:
(http://www.impacthosting.com/jango/egypt2000/Day2/thumbnails/thumbnails/akhenaten.jpg)
Any help of volunteers to draw eveyrthing for me much appreciated!
there's not much wrong. NICE work! give him a tan and a bigger backhead. egyptians used to have that.
I've been in egypt, and the people there had a darker complexion, but apart from that, it looks good
I'm not good at selecting fleshtones. Some egyptian people are pretty pale, but if you guys can give me RGB values, I'd much appreciate it!
looks good! but maybe make the skin even darker still.
( ( (<( -_-)> ) ) )
Doesnt look Egyptian to me somehow. Im not sure though, the only ones I know are from Asterix and Cleopatra.
Thanks for the comments folks. Here's a new version with some tidying and colours for the skin and gold taken from googled pictures of the real thing (i.e. egyptian men and gold)
(http://www.angelfire.com/space/little_flower/images/maya2.gif)
Neole: yup, great book! But Maya is supposed to be a lowly kinda guy, so he doesn't have much in the way of the stuff you normally see in the hieroglyphics. I've done preliminary drawings of the other 4 characters that are plotted so far and they have more of this stuff (Generals Ay and Horemheb and Pharoah Akenaten), but I'll need to get them on the computer sometime.
Akhenaten is interesting, as all his statues, pics etc are in a totally different style to every other bit of egyptian art. I'll base his picture on these.
His breastplate looks like it's floating off his shoulder on one end, and it's covering his neck like it's choking him or something. Other than that, I'd say my first impression of it was that it looked kind of messy. You could try to clean up around the edges by making it more symmetrical, but what do I know about art.
An idea, didn't the egyptians have shaved heads, except one "tuft" coming out, that they rubber banded? I've seen a lot of those on movies, but it might just be stereotype.
isn't it cool to use an outline??
I tried something
hope you don't mind
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/mayan3t.gif)
Well, my original intention with the neck thing was that it was supposed to stick out as some kind of fashion thing, but I must say that N3T's one does look better there. Not sure about the outline on the loincloth, though. Thanks for the input, tho!
*bump*
I've updated the pics at the top of the thread, or you can look at them on my promotional game thread if you prefer:
http://www.agsforums.com/yabb/index.php?board=8;action=display;threadid=8825&start=0
Ok, here are 3 paintover ideas for the main character.
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/agchar1.jpg)
This is the first paintover stage.. The left hand was different in design, but it was taking me too much time to balance it with the rest of the body so I c/p the right one in its place.. looks a bit unbalanced..anyway..
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/agchar2.jpg)
Different hairstyle.. more cartoony.. matches the rest of the body better.. fixes the unbalanced parts a bit too (I think)..
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/agchar4.jpg)
Tried to remove the cartoony feel by adding a few shades.. not a miracle cure but it helped a bit (I hope)..
Overlall, I am not sure if the style paintover matches the original mood and the theme all that well.. It seems out of place..
I guess you must have a different vision, try explaining it.. or post a few examples of how the hero should look (or act)...
hope this helps.
ps. what's the command to 2x the size on an image for viewing? Doing it manually makes these babies look huge..
tnks.
Every time you do a paintover you impress me Pure!
I love what you've done with his "necklace" and "skirt".
I like the second one with the hairstyle of the third.
I think the body of the third is a bit too fussy - a bit chalky looking perhaps, and the outline is a little inconsistent.
But I think SSH is going to be begging you to paint over the other characters!
Well, it undoubtedly looks great, PureGhost. The problem is that because it is so very different from the other graphics of the game, and such a style is beyond me, that either you redo all the grpahics for me like that, or I can't use it!
Myself I prefer the first one.
He looks like a real hero in your pic, which is what he needs to be. He is an army general who has worked his way up from poverty and hopes to win the hand of Princess Mutnodjmet, but he has had a hard life and sadness: his first wife died when the Pharoah diverted troops from protecting her village to be his personal bodyguard and the village was attacked by the Hyksos.
To post double-size, put [ img width=WIDTH*2 height=HEIGHT*2]http://site.com/image.gif[ /img]
SSH:
I understand your point of view on the style.. Perhaps I was over-enthusiastic about painting it..
All I wanted was to inspire you to work on your project more. The paintover is usually a suggestion on how you could go about making your own character. (so you pick up ideas and take them back to the drawing board).. :)
I can help with the graphics.. but I cannot do them all for you. The idea here is to get your skills to become better.. (not just mine).
:)
Steve:
Wow..I am not that good.. (and I know it).. but thank you for the ego-boost.
:D
PureGhost:
Thanks for the inspiration. It was much appreciated. I wasn't really expecting you do redo all my graphics! I doubt I'll have enough time to do great graphics like yours, unofrtunately, however inspiring it is!
I'd really appreciate some help on getting the smug expression on Akhenaten, though
Quotehis first wife died when the Pharoah diverted troops from protecting her village to be his personal bodyguard and the village was attacked by the Hyksos.
Could this be possible? I thought the Hyksos were long gone during the Amarna period.
Anyway, this could become a great game. All the ingredients are there... An insane Pharao, a child Pharao being used by evil Amun priests for their own nefarious purposes, an ambitious general...
And I can't wait to see what you make of Nefertete ;)
Quote from: Hueij on Tue 28/10/2003 09:22:26
Quotehis first wife died when the Pharoah diverted troops from protecting her village to be his personal bodyguard and the village was attacked by the Hyksos.
Could this be possible? I thought the Hyksos were long gone during the Amarna period.
Well, actually, his first wife did die (historically) and I hadn't got around to making up the back-story for that, so please replace Hyksos with an appropriate enemy: Hittites, maybe?
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Anyway, this could become a great game. All the ingredients are there... An insane Pharao, a child Pharao being used by evil Amun priests for their own nefarious purposes, an ambitious general...
Well, I'm glad you like the idea. The Amarna period is ripe for good stories, especially because most of the history was deliberatly wiped out later (by Horemheb, actually)
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And I can't wait to see what you make of Nefertete ;)
Well, she mysteriously disappeared earlier in Akhenaten's reign, but Horemheb's love interest is her half-sister Mutnodjmet. But maybe we will find out what happened to Nefertiti during the game...
Used the photo for reference..
hope it helps.
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/akh1.jpg)
No alterations to the original.. just a few pixel changed.. not sure if this is what you had in mind..
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/akh2.jpg)
The second version is how I vision him.. aka having his eyes half-closed most of the time.
Good luck with the project, so far I am impressed..
Quote from: SSH on Mon 30/06/2003 13:41:24
(http://www.angelfire.com/space/little_flower/images/Supercompressed_AnimationWizard2.gif)
bumped up for C&C on my walkcycle
looks good, but should he really look "at my face"? add a little "bending" on the foot as he walks and it will be nearly perfect...nice work
I don't know if it's just the avi compression, but the limbs look a little blurred.
Maybe that's because you rotated them in photoshop?
If so, I'd have turned off the smoothing first, then retouched them to smooth out the lines if necessary.
(You can turn off filtering on free transform in General Preferences.)
Still looking forward to this game,
Steve
Quote from: SSH on Mon 30/06/2003 13:41:24
EDIT 4/12/03:
(http://www.angelfire.com/space/little_flower/images/hhtocamera.gif)
bump with added fwd walkcycle
I like all of these, but commenting on the color, I learned this from my Humanities class. Ancient Egyptians were color blind.. they weren't selective on color when they chose wives, etc. They were every shade from white to black, and over time arrived at the blend that they are today with hardly any white people left. So your black Egyptians aren't unusual, and you could even include some white Egyptians. Especially since they did have lots of white slaves.
If you're going for realism, shouldn't the walk cycle look like this?
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/egypt.gif)
Actually, my walk cursor does just that
shbazjinkens --
Sounds like your Humanities professor was pulling your leg.
[edit]
Oh wait, you meant "colour blind" as in "colour tolerant".
Heh.
Shbaz: Maya is staying the colour he was and Ay is even darker-skinned than Horemheb. As for other characters: we'll see (if they have a walkcycle, they'll probably be the same color as Horemheb to save me some effort!)
I've added the north walkcycle and Horemheb's back looks rubbish, so please can I get some advice on better pecs!
(http://www.angelfire.com/space/little_flower/images/hhnorth.gif)
The walking cycle looks a tad strange, but still very good. What does the walking cursor look like? could you post a pic of it?
I think the problem with the back is that the spine is so dark- it looks like he's had spinal surgery and there was a horrible scar. You could try lightening that a little, and maybe making it a bit thinner and not going down his whole back.
Probably not too relevant, but someone mentioned it. How do you turn off smoothing when making adjustments in ohotoshop?
Photoshop 7 anyway.
Go to General Preferences, and set the filtering to nearest neighbour.
Steve