Need C&C on story/plot/concept! (game already in production)

Vel · Fri 14/05/2004 20:22:46

Minimi: a thing I forgot to mention last time:
Dont make the christian content too obvious, make it more subtle, for people who have atheistic views/as myself/ could be offended.

Minimi · Fri 14/05/2004 20:33:23

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It sounds good, a lot darker than traditional games.
And the graphics are superb - did you scan them, or do you have a tablet or something?

Thanks! No, I made them from scratch on the computer, just with a mouse. If you want to know how I made them, I wrote a tutorial about it. here is the link : http://minimi.spijbelaars.com/Sounds/pixelartbgtutor.doc, or http://minimi.spijbelaars.com/Sounds/pixelartbgtutor.pdf

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a thing I forgot to mention last time:
Dont make the christian content too obvious, make it more subtle, for people who have atheistic views/as myself/ could be offended.

Yes, I know that. It won't be offended to any religion or anyone. Just a normal game. But ofcourse I do reach out some christian message, but in a way, that you can choose yourself, weither you do something with that.
example :

wrong way : If you don't believe you go to hell!
my way/good way : God is love, and he loves to be your friend.

something in that direction... I think?!

Vel · Fri 14/05/2004 20:50:39

That was exactly what I was trying to say - don't make it at all that obvious. If God is that to you, he may not be to others. And if you put such obvious religious things in the game, that would ruin it, at least for me.

Minimi · Fri 14/05/2004 21:01:34

I don't want to start a whole useless discussion about weither God excist or not, and as I kinda told in this thread, is that the way you are playing the game, depending on weither you would actually run into the christian issues. But seriously, every game has something, that someone does not agree with, just like movies. Or they are too violent, too strong language, too naughty, bad jokes, too long, too dramatic etc...etc...

Vel · Sat 15/05/2004 10:18:00

Only time will tell.

Peter Thomas · Sat 15/05/2004 11:20:18

I would disagree. There hasn't been a major discussion about "I'm offended by swearing, so DON'T PUT IT IN YOUR GAME"

however as soon as God is mentioned, it's like this whole new taboo thing.

If you don't want to deal with it, don't play the game, I say.

Althought, really, I say "DO play the game because it will be great"

auhsor · Sun 16/05/2004 06:47:56

The story is very interesting minimi. I like it alot, you can do alot with it, and let the player think about some issues.
I've been wanting to make a game, and as you are doing, put a christian message in it, like not full on, but just a theme running through it. I havn't really had time to flesh out any plot, but after reading your plot, thats exactly the sort of way I would want to do it. Not the plot, just the way you are putting in the christian themes.
I would consider helping you, but I really don't have all that much time because of uni and that. Good luck in getting it together. It sounds awesome.

InCreator · Sun 16/05/2004 14:29:25

Yes, Minimi, be careful. My opinion is that Christian themed games suck! Messages aren't very good, then again, In Gabriel Knight there was a church and guy prayed there and I felt like this was excactly right and did fit in well. Like, religion was used to give better atmosphere to a game, and it was not the case where game was used to 'spread the word'.

So there's two sides on this. Just don't try to pull player to one of them. Uh, I hope you can understand at least something about what I just said.

Vel · Sun 16/05/2004 14:36:57

Minmi: will the message of the game be 'be good' or 'be christian'?

Minimi · Sun 16/05/2004 17:30:45

QuoteYes, Minimi, be careful. My opinion is that Christian themed games suck! Messages aren't very good, then again, In Gabriel Knight there was a church and guy prayed there and I felt like this was excactly right and did fit in well. Like, religion was used to give better atmosphere to a game, and it was not the case where game was used to 'spread the word'.

So there's two sides on this. Just don't try to pull player to one of them. Uh, I hope you can understand at least something about what I just said.

Quote from: Vel on Sun 16/05/2004 14:36:57
Minmi: will the message of the game be 'be good' or 'be christian'?

you'll see, when it's finished!

....gee... what's the big fuzz? Just because I use the word christian, everyone has an opinion about it... :s
Just wait for the game, because in my opinion it will be the greatest game I ever made (haven't made lots of good games though!), and just as I said before... if you want the message to be "be good", it is like that, and if you want the message to be "life sucks", then it's like that...I think I covered that already. Otherwise, stick to playing Calsoon, about a guy looking for his pants! (I loved that game!)