Hi everyone, today i'm posting a animation i did for our amateur developers team, Creative Studios! Down there is the logo animation, i will make the title appear below it in a fade in transition animation, that later, i will post there. I think it's creative don't you think? Please comment!
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/CSLogo.gif)
This will sound harsh, but I mean it in the friendliest way;
Firstly, why is the name of your team Creative Studios? Do you actually have a studio? Apart from being a fun exercise, do you really see a good application for your logo animation? It does look neat, but what does it actually mean? Are the shapes symbolic of anything? When you think about logos for companies, although its subconscious there are actually meaning behind the symbols. Take for example, the Dreamworks SKG logo. Its nested in clouds, we associate clouds with sleeping, and hence dreaming. A better example, is the Sierra logo. Its a abstract picture of the mountains in the Sierra Nevada.
I agree with cosmicr, but I'd like to add some suggestions: You see to have the C in the logo, and that drop of liquid is very well executed. Exchange the blue square with a blue cup, and you already have added a "hey, I dig that, they're into AGS games!!!" factor.
The initial construction of the C, however, isn't that catchy. The colours look a bit random, and you lose a lot of screen space there (only have the square is made into the C)- a fullscreen letter might look better.
thank you for commenting:
cosmicr: No, i don't have a studio, but, is that a rule that you have to had a studio to have it on the name? Well, the studio will have to be creative if you follow this kind of reasoning, don't it? But if my "studio" isn't creative? I can't name it this way? It's just a name. A name, just that. From the dictionary: Studio, an artist's workshop. So, technicaly, yes, i have a studio! ;)
Ghost: Thank you, but can't you help me a little more saying how can i improve it? :-X What have to change?
Do you (everyone) think i should change the name for something like creative games or creative productions? Thank you!
EDIT: It's a 320x240 game, i will add the words "Creative Studios" below it, so it's full screen ;)
EDIT 2: cosmicr, the shapes are trying to show a "develop" effect to the logo.
It's too long.
Sorry InCreator but i desagree, besides you can skip it, core design, sierra and othere great developers have + or - the same duration of this, if you see for the first time it isn't so long, for the 3 or time, it can be, but then just skip it.
You've asked for critique here... For your own sake just take it and try not to justify yourself every 5 seconds. These guys are making some very valid points, just thank them and do what you want.
Here's the wrinkle with the 'you can skip it' argument:
If the logo takes too long and everyone skips it, no one ever sees your logo, thus:
1. You've wasted time and money/effort on something very few people will watch.
2. You've defeated the purpose of a logo, which is to present your company name in a memorable way.
About the logo itself:
It makes no sense to me in the context of the 'Creative Studio' name. A square that splits in half, one side presumably filling with water and then dripping some into a box? Your logo should incorporate your studio name somewhere rather than to try and 'justify' the company name.
Quote from: Jakerpot on Tue 17/03/2009 23:36:06
Ghost: Thank you, but can't you help me a little more saying how can i improve it? :-X What have to change?
One idea- look at this font here: http://www.dafont.com/roman-grid-caps.font (http://www.dafont.com/roman-grid-caps.font) and use it as a base to construct a C. Then have the rest of the studio name (reative Studio) scroll out of the C, to the right. Don't do the water-filling at all, and keep the animation short, and then have it run past you a couple of times. If you're still not tired of it, chances are good your players will look at it at least once, which is enough to justify the work.
It doesn't really have that 'wow' factor. Fram a graphic design standpoint, it's a bit bland, and nothing in it complements the name 'Creative Studios'. Creative Studios itself is a rather uncreative name to be honest.
If I were you, I would start from scratch. mindmap, brainstorm, whatever, think of what you do. You make adventures, you make art, you make retro games. What words or ideals do you get from this. Write them all down. Combine words, change the pre/suffixes. Make stuff up.
Logo wise, come up with something that is memorable and inspired, get it critiqued, rework it, get more critique, etc. When you are truly happy with your branding, then you can move on to auxillery things like animating your logo. It looks to me like you have skipped pretty much every step of design and branding, going with the first name that popped into your head.
Sometimes branding is intentional, sometimes unintentional. Look at the AGS Blue Cup. It just started off as a badly drawn sprite in the default game, now it is AGS' logo and branding.
I've never been a big fan of names like "Creative Studio" or "Clever Design" or anything like that ...
I think, if you have to say you're creative, it steals a little from the over-all image you might be trying to go for. Not to mention, from my perspective, a name like that actually feels UNcreative. (just read what Lay said ... I agree with him here)
However ... since you weren't looking for crit on the name of your studio, but on the animation, I'll offer up some on that.
The lines moving around at the beginning are not [at all] interesting and take away from the piece.
The water filling the C and then dripping down would work FAR better with just that part (though I'd suggest making the C a more interesting designed font (like was suggested alread)) A few scan-lines could form the C (though done FAR quicker than the opening as you have it now) and then the water fills up, drips down, then ... something.
I don't know ... I think you might have a good start here but, as is, it's not very appealing.
I think that the creators of the "Total war" series are "creative studio", or "creative assembly" or something similar already...
and the guys that made my soundblaster were Creative Labs.
Thank you all very much, i will use this font as base, thanks Ghost! Did you think i should change the name? :-\ i already searched creative studios and found nothing. Or can i keep it? what you mean scan-lines can form the C? I know scanlines but you mean an animation or the solid logo? I will post here when i make an updated version (or a new on) of it. Thank you again! ;)
Quote from: Jakerpot on Tue 17/03/2009 21:17:02Hi everyone, today i'm posting a animation i did for our amateur developers team, Creative Studios! Down there is the logo animation, i will make the title appear below it in a fade in transition animation, that later, i will post there. I think it's creative don't you think? Please comment!
I know how much I hate to receive critics (I try to get around that by never asking for it...but still people tend to give it. Grrr, I hate those people), but I agree with most of the things people have said throughout this thread:
1. The animation is too long. Even the first time I was bored pretty fast...it's not an exciting animation, and it doesn't make me curious as to where it's going. So in a game I would skip it if possible. Even the first time it played.
2. I don't understand the rationale behind the logo. What does it mean? - Ok, you've explained the animation (the shapes are trying to show a "develop" effect to the logo (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=37198.msg488629#msg488629)), but the logo itself should be functional in a single frame: the image you print on the manual for example. So what does the 'blue C with blue dot' mean? - Again, I have no idea.
3. The name...it's a matter of opinion of course, but to me it's like a car salesman called 'Honest Bob'. I immediately feel cheated, because something inside of me tells me he can't be honest if he's so focussed on convincing me he is. It's like if something advertises as being romantic, it is by definition not. Plus, if the studio is really creative he should be able to come up with something more creative than 'creative', right?
So a little brainstorming-session: Creative...CreaTIFF...Creativ...iv...IV (4 in Roman numerals): CreatIV. Studios, productions...games? - CreatIV games. I'm not saying it's the best name ever, but it's what I came up with based on the word 'creative'. As for a logo...what do I associate with creativity? - Well the first thing I thought about was the golden ratio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio) for some reason, but that was as far as I got...So CreatIV, C-IV, C-4, Dynamite.
Two ideas:
(left: pixel-like dynamite, right: weird artistic C.4 logo)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Misj-CreatIV_Games-PixelArt.png) (http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Misj-CreatIV_Games-Artistic.png)
Of course I'm sure you can come up with far more creative, interesting, and exciting ideas than these...so I would advise you to brainstorm a little more (in a small group).
Great ideias Misj! Thank you, i liked CreatIV name, but it's feel a little weird. As you and almost everyone talked, creative games... It's feel soooo uncreative! Ok, and what about Epic Games? Ok changing the topic (and not trying to explain myself much, because this is one of my defects...), i didn't undertand nothing about that golden ratio thing you linked up :P But ok, C-4, explosive, cool, i liked it, but i will try to go faster. I'm thinking in erase the animation and add just a "fade-in" thing. I was on the idead of making a open box with some gears working (inspired by Lionsgate Productions, besides it's nothing to do with it) and then the box closes and on it's cover would be writen Creative Studios, and then the line of the box would desappear. I thought it was a good idea, but i think Misj have a better line of reasoning.
EDIT: Making some research on the number 4 on numerology, i found that characteristics of a person with the number 4, is:
will do the job until it's complete and will work hard the custom way. Interesting huh? I will have some brainstorm here ( ;D) adn think about it.
Epic Games is already taken. They made Unreal...
A good way of getting a name is just writing down what you do, and how you percieve what you do: Adventure, Point and click, Pixel Art, Retro, Fun... whatever. Then try to make something catchy out of that. Try synonyms for creative, and also for games. Brainstorm a little: Interesting, Cool, Fun, Blasting, Entertaining... Games, Adventures, Entertainment... see where I'm going?
One thing I noticed in MisJ's design is the 4, which can be read "for"... good for a pun?
To give a biased example, here's how I came up with my "name":
- adventure games are great things
- I am not programming them but making them
- another word for "making" is "crafting"
- adventure games are considered dead and lost
- "Lost Craft"
Thus I found a name.
Yeah, i know that Epic Games already exist (I love unreal and Gears :D) but i was trying to say something like: Creative games is not creative name. Epic games is not an epic name. Did you understanded? I liked Lost Craft, but how will you explain the name on the logo? That's the hardest part, the player will look at your logo and think, why this name? I want a logo that explain it as Misj's said, but not explain in the first look, i want the player to think a little. Thank you!
You really shouldn't be arguing the meaning behind words when using sentences like 'did you understanded'.
I'm guessing English isn't your first language, and that you're probably not much older than 14 or 15. Take it from us, most of us know what we're talking about, because we do speak English and we're much older and wiser. :P
FWIW, Epic used to be called Epic MegaGames and the name probably most likely comes from their first title, Epic Pinball, which would be appropriate. (I loved that game).
Whilst I'd admit that SOME names are just plucked out of the air because they sound cool or whatever, 99% of successful company names have meaning behind them whether you can see it or not.
yeah, you're right, english isn't my native language, i just want make the things clear.Mine another defect... Ok, Epic games, their game are really epic (in my humble opinion), but if their games sucks? Would the name make any influence on it? Like, epic game think they make epic games, hahahaha. I don't want to put a bad impression on players... My focus now is to understand the meaning of "Creative" to use it on my side and make a logo that explain my company name. I wanted to add a little "adventure" characteristic in my logo to make the player think like "Creative games make good adventure games, their logo is cool,it makes me feel interested in playing their games."
"Creative Studio(s)" is by far most uncreative name, ever. I bet there's hunderds of Creative Studios out there...
Simple Google search brought 74 results-!
Also, don't call yourself Studios. Studios go usually with movies, rarely with games.
I'm not that against calling your games under some kind of fake organization name - because they are way more memorable than your real name. Infact, very little of game developers in the world are really known by their real name, like John Romero or Roberta Williams, etc. And you probably aren't - and never will be - one of those.
Mostly, it's still the dev team name, company or etc. I
Pick a name that's short enough and easy to remember. And by easy, make it special. "Creative" is so common, that no one will really remember or distinguish it from hundred others. Also, all kind of "entertainment(s)" and so on.
For example, Bullfrog, Valve or Activision are simple, yet memorable ones. It pays off in the long run, because I'm sure anyone has heard or remembers those.
Flashy, long names tend to go unknown. Even better is to pick yourself a new e-name, memorable as I described and release with it. It doubles the effect - both you and your games will be known in the internet.
Ok, thank you InCreator (I think), ok, i'm thinking in changing the name, but what can i use? Let's start a brainstorm section here:
*Adventure, point and click, old, AGS, creation, computer, games.
Well, nothing :-\ lets try it again:
*Point and Click
*Puzzles
*Creative
*Solutions
*Games
*Computer
i think this one give me more results :D
I like the word puzzle, that can be associated with Jigsaw, resolution, answer and solution.
I like solutions too, can de associated to conclusion, resolution, answer, key maybe a keyhole or something?
help me with my new name :-\
The real beauty of any cool name is that you don't need to push the audience towards its coolnes. It's just there, and it doesn't even need to "mean" a lot. Take names like 10tacles, Piranha Bytes, Herculean Effort. They all have a good ring and stick to the mind, yet I doubt their owners sat down and pondered ages about what games they were going to make, and why their name would relate to that. Sometimes you just need a good hook. What has "Valve" to do with computers, shooters or cool physic puzzles? Nothing. How creative is a "Microsoft Studios"? Not that much. And there are even more extreme examples...
Some basic rules apply to logo design; an interesting article can be found HERE (http://blambot.com/successfullogo.shtml), togther with some EXAMPLES (http://blambot.com/logodesign.shtml)...
But in the end, if you make good games, you build a reputation for yourself and for your logo. The Sierra one is a good example, it's not really outstanding, and it doesn't shout "we make adventure games!!!", but for quite some time it was as iconic as you can get. Same with the little man in the Lucas Arts logo. It's hit and miss.
Quote from: Jakerpot on Wed 18/03/2009 23:03:18
I liked Lost Craft, but how will you explain the name on the logo? That's the hardest part, the player will look at your logo and think, why this name?
To answer in all honesty, I didn't. Here it is...
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7543/lostcraftlogoblackwhite.png)
I merely stuck to some rules: Simple basic shape, easy to recognise even when scaled, ability to either separate or combine name and "image" (The image can be the O in Lost), independant of background. I liked the looks, and you can wonder what it's supposed to mean for quite some time, or not at all. Could be a feline lady outlined against the moon. Could be not.
EDIT:
That key/keyhole thing has something to it... ever turned a key in a lock and made it *click*?
Point and... *click*... Now there's some potential, animation-wise.
yeah, maybe it has :D Point and *Click* haha, sounds cool enough for me :) Maybe a black keyhole on a white shape with a black background and... and... i still need a name. Something with solutions maybe work with it. Thank you, i'm feeling i'm in the right way now :)
Personally, I'd suggest you avoid picking a name from what it is you're actually doing.
I'd suggest either:
1. a random, cool sounding word (Valve, Blizzard, ocean, etc).
2. two words that don't really belong together (thinking of that googlewhack game of 2 words and only 1 result).
3. Psuedowords/Nonce words. (Vonk/Unidexter / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoword http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonce_terms)
4. Spoonerisms, dirtier the better. (Cupid Stunt / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoonerism)
My favorite of the previous ones mentioned would likely be 10tacles, tho.
So, you are sugesting to make a name with a wrong spelling? Or a only word, or maybe a new strange word? Like what?
Brainstorming now:
*Inward (a keyhole)
*Insanity
*Inquire
*Inquisitive
*Ilusion
*Imagine
*Hype
some words i thought just to have an idea (Many I starting words, i know).
Someone?
Quote from: Renal Shutdown on Thu 19/03/2009 13:50:10
My favorite of the previous ones mentioned would likely be 10tacles, tho.
I should add that the names mentioned in my previous post are all actual company names.
Wow.
That naming stuff is *deep*. But I like how this thread develops into a collection of tips.
Edit:
v v v
Fair enough, sorry ;)
Quote from: Ghost on Thu 19/03/2009 17:53:22
I should add that the names mentioned in my previous post are all actual company names.
I know 10tacles is an existing company, and wasn't suggesting using it. I merely meant that of *all* names mentioned (real/hypothetical) that one stood out the most to me.
Quote from: Ghost on Thu 19/03/2009 17:53:22Wow.
That naming stuff is *deep*. But I like how this thread develops into a collection of tips.
Of course you can always give it a name just for the sound of it, because you like the word, or because it has special meaning to you personally that makes no sense to anyone else.
For example the word 'Baguette'. It has a similar ring as bugatti (well, with a bit of fantasy at least), it has absolutely nothing to do with adventure games, or games in general, but people will remember the name (or at least I think so).
Just repeat it with me: Baguette...baguette...ba-gu-ette. :)
Quote from: Misj' on Thu 19/03/2009 20:16:17
Just repeat it with me: Baguette...baguette...ba-gu-ette. :)
Unngh. Now I've got that french sure-le-pond tune in my head, only with baguette... Thanks!
ahn, i like baguetti (the bread), but not as a company name :P I was thinking in just a only word, maybe a mix of two words, forming a new one. Maybe Puzzlution (LoL) or SoPuzzle (ROFLMAO). Anyone?
And you don't need to go with something specifically 'cool' sounding either, all things considered - a lot of the time that just backfires. Just work out something that fits with your development team. Sierra (though a cool word) was based in an area of california near Yosemite National park (Which is consequentially also the reason for the Yosemite spinoff game group of Sierra back in the day), and Half Dome is a very easily recognizable geographic landmark in Yosemite, so they choose to stylize an image of Half Dome for their logo.
You can easily name your studio or dev group based off of their geography, as in the above example. In my case, my dev group for an as-of-yet not widely spoken of game title is "Caffeine Zombie". Primarily because my team work late, staying awake with copious amounts of coffee/tea/other caffeinated drinks. Our logo is a stylized image of a hand holding a coffee mug, bursting out of a grave.
There are plenty of things that you can factor in to make an interesting group name.
So i will name it Working Title ::) (if it wasn't take yet...)
i want a one word title:
Vusub
Actventure (i liked this one)
Fenture
Fendiction
Friction
Dilling
Click Point (ok, this is a 2 words one)
Depoint
Advanced Zone ( :P another 2 words)
Twilight Area
and the ideas continue poping... don't think i'm just posting random words, this names are names that can be my company name, but i can't choose one... :-\
Erm... I see where your coming from, but some are hard to remember, and that's the whole point. If you push two words together it has to role off the tongue and look good on paper. For example Actventure might work if you divided them somehow... eg ACTventure... But I think it looks to messy...
Just try finding a phrase that suits your style, like said before. Or maybe something personal that can be translated, like Jaker might work, (I dont know the significance to you) but seems like a cool word that could be individual, yet roles off the tongue...
Why not think something of your own? I mean using a cliche won't do the trick. Think of something magical that:
1.has something to do with your game(s),
2.attract attention (you can even transform the name of your neighbourhood grocery basiness and make it sound awesome) and
3.doesn't take an eternity to watch :) As ProgZmax said: if you make it too long, players will skip it every time. It's possible they skip it even the first time so that one'll never see it end => noone will know who the developer is :)
Like the example with Sierra and Sierra Nevada. By using some part of a name that is part of your country will make it special (don't want to sound nationalist here ;D).
Haunted House perhaps as a name suggestion?
Haunted House? My game names is Mansion Break , too much the same ;D Well, my animation yes, will be quick if it have one. Fracture is a name that can be remembered? I think a point why sierra, valve and other names are remembered; you saw them in a LOT of famous games, so you just can't forget it ;)
Quote from: Jakerpot on Fri 20/03/2009 19:22:28
Haunted House? My game names is Mansion Break , too much the same ;D
Well, think of it as a debute of your studio. Kind of "turning the first sod" for your brilliant future game development.
Quote from: Jakerpot on Fri 20/03/2009 19:22:28I think a point why sierra, valve and other names are remembered; you saw them in a LOT of famous games, so you just can't forget it ;)
lol For a guy that haven't finished his
first game, you're very confident. ;D Hope it's not just air under pressure ;) We'll see.
Quote from: rbaleksandar on Fri 20/03/2009 09:00:13
3.doesn't take an eternity to watch :) As ProgZmax said: if you make it too long, players will skip it every time. It's possible they skip it even the first time so that one'll never see it end => noone will know who the developer is :)
Sneaky Trick #101: Allow the player to skip the ANIMATION, yes, but still display the last frame (the complete logo) for at least 1 1/2 seconds. It works, I dunno how often I skipped that Blizzard North logo each time I played Diablo 2, and still I can remember it.
It haunts me.
i'm a bit confident, but what i said is true, how many games did you see Sierra logo? Maybe the most recent one was F.E.A.R. a succesfull (is this the way to spell it?) shooter, impossible to forget. I don't need a name to make player remember for ever, when i make more and more games, the players will have it in mind (for sure if the games are good ;) )
Quote from: Jakerpot on Fri 20/03/2009 19:51:54
i'm a bit confident, but what i said is true, how many games did you see Sierra logo? Maybe the most recent one was F.E.A.R. a succesfull (is this the way to spell it?) shooter, impossible to forget. I don't need a name to make player remember for ever, when i make more and more games, the players will have it in mind (for sure if the games are good ;) )
lol Now better sit and make that first game of yours ;D
Yes, but first i need a name for my company :-\
No, you don't. It's perfectly okay to make and even release one or more games WITHOUT making up some imaginary company name first.
But i want ;D
Maybe your "inability" to come up with a name would make a good name ;)
"Nonesuch Name Games"
"Nameless Studio"
"Anonymous Adventures"
"Games Without Names"
"You Bought It You Name It Games, inc"
.
.
.
yeah, i already thought this, Nameless is a good name ;D
Yeah nameless sounds good.
I thought we'd finally decided on our production name of Silverback Studios but apparently there's a company with that exact name lol. We'll have to use it in some other way as we've already made the logo lol (avi), a variation on the name perhaps
What's wrong with "Jakerpot" or "Jakerpot Games"? Why not use your nickname as the basis? It'd at least make it more personal and definitely doesn't sound bad.
Because i wanted to make a name for a ficticial company, that i could have a team in it, and Jaker games don't sounds good for me, but Nameless i liked ;D Better Nameless Games or just Nameless?
maybe Logoless? That would save you time with the logo :)
thank you spacepaw, but i will make a logo.
OBS: Was this a indirect way to tell me i'm lazy? Because i'm not!
Quote from: Jakerpot on Sat 21/03/2009 17:54:22
thank you spacepaw, but i will make a logo.
OBS: Was this a indirect way to tell me i'm lazy? Because i'm not!
lol
Seriously the whole thread is about people who tell you you don't need a logo of an imaginary company and your answers that you need one :D
Let me give you a tip (free of charge ;D) - first make the game and then add the logo. Maybe you'll get an idea for making it while developing the game. Instead you write here about a logo of a incomplete game. Waste no time (even if you're not busy, it's still losing time).
Quote from: Jakerpot on Sat 21/03/2009 17:54:22
thank you spacepaw, but i will make a logo.
OBS: Was this a indirect way to tell me i'm lazy? Because i'm not!
Nah it wasnt that :) It's just very childlish to put so much attention to the name and logo of nonexistent team :) I would just wait if I were you :) The idea will come by itself, you dont need it right now so why bother?
Quote from: Jakerpot on Fri 20/03/2009 19:51:54
I don't need a name to make player remember for ever, when i make more and more games, the players will have it in mind (for sure if the games are good ;) )
1. If you think this why are you spending so long trying to think up a name?
2. If you think this why are you inventing a name for an invented company before making
any of these "more and more games"?
People have said this countless times in this thread, but it needed saying again.
Listening to advice when asking for it is the skill you need my friend.
well, in response: i want to make the company first, because i want to put it on the intro of my game (that is what im working now). The name will be Nameless and i will think on a logo. So it wasn't waste of time, now i can make the logo and it all will be finished ;) i just have to think on a logo to a nameless company :P
How about "?"
Quote from: Jakerpot on Sat 21/03/2009 19:54:18
i just have to think on a logo to a nameless company :P
*sigh*
Googling "Nameless Entertainment" brings quite a load of results. Are you sure you want to blend into that mass? Besides, to be honest the name "Nameless" is boring as shit. Too ordinary. Not memorable.
Quote from: J-MAN on Sat 21/03/2009 20:14:56
How about "?"
Something like that seems to be used by another "company" named Nameless. http://www.nameless-entertainment.net/
i will use Nameless Games, i can't please everyone someones liked the name, others not... I will use it yes, because i will not register the name Nameless Games, i will just put it as my team! And Nameless Enterteinment... Are you sure this is a company? I think most of the people never heard about this team... So why i cant use it?
Quote from: Jakerpot on Sat 21/03/2009 21:00:04
And Nameless Enterteinment... Are you sure this is a company? I think most of the people never heard about this team... So why i cant use it?
I never said it was a registered company. In fact, if you read my post again you will see me saying "company" with quotemarks. All I was saying is that it's so overused you might want to reconsider. The fact is that if you tell people about your "Nameless Games" named website for example, they will probably go and google it and face a seemless list of other websites called Nameless something (I got over a
million of these). You won't stand out. This is why it's boring.
On the other hand, if you have a more original name (like Jakerpot, which brings up 30 hits in Google for me) chances are that the people will find what they're looking for on the first page instead of having to look for a needle in a needlestack.
I used to have a website called Pabsoft, which didn't get any Google hits before I registered it, which is pretty much why I chose it. Originality is good. And rare. Now my website is called Pabstuff (I wanted it to sound less techy), which also didn't get any hits before registering it. Both names have a certain meaning to me, originating from my nickname. What meaning does "Nameless" have to you? I know you think it's pretty clever but it's not, really.
I'm not saying you should name your fake company Jakerpot but you should use a more original name, one that has some personal meaning to you. Otherwise you'll just feel stupid about it later.
If you've made up your mind already then that's that but do consider this.
OK, understantood. I'm reconsider using Jakerpot Games now. I just think that this name is a bit junkie, and don't have any clue for a logo, maybe a Jack pot ticket? ;D
Quote from: Jakerpot on Sat 21/03/2009 23:10:17
OK, understantood. I'm reconsider using Jakerpot Games now. I just think that this name is a bit junkie, and don't have any clue for a logo, maybe a Jack pot ticket? ;D
Maybe like jack-from-the-box but from the pot instead of box? :P
Quote from: SpacePaw on Sun 22/03/2009 02:23:51
Maybe like jack-from-the-box but from the pot instead of box? :P
;D It would be funny, but maybe a little no-sense at all?
He could also look confused and say "errrr..." so you would have jack-er-pot X3
:D:D:D
Ha, I like the Jack-in-the-box thing, reminds me of "The incredible machine"
Quote from: Jakerpot on Sun 22/03/2009 02:52:01
Quote from: SpacePaw on Sun 22/03/2009 02:23:51
Maybe like jack-from-the-box but from the pot instead of box? :P
;D It would be funny, but maybe a little no-sense at all?
Yeah, that's a plus. The more unusual it is, the more memorable.
Jack-er-pot XD good ideia, but i will not use the err ;D
Quote from: Jakerpot on Sun 22/03/2009 21:57:53
Jack-er-pot XD good ideia, but i will not use the err ;D
I did the "-" just to show my point. I would leave it just as Jackerpot. Sounds really nice and will look better than with the dashes :P
Quote from: Jakerpot on Sat 21/03/2009 21:00:04
i will use Nameless Games, i can't please everyone someones liked the name, others not... I will use it yes, because i will not register the name Nameless Games, i will just put it as my team! And Nameless Enterteinment... Are you sure this is a company? I think most of the people never heard about this team... So why i cant use it?
because they might not like you using it, especially when you become rich and famous.
Quote from: cosmicr on Sun 22/03/2009 22:19:39
because they might not like you using it, especially when you become rich and famous.
lol. Why so mean? :P
Quote from: cosmicr on Sun 22/03/2009 22:19:39
because they might not like you using it, especially when you become rich and famous.
Don't be childish, if someone will be famous it won't be me... but rich i will!
Quote from: SpacePaw on Sun 22/03/2009 22:21:42
Quote from: cosmicr on Sun 22/03/2009 22:19:39
because they might not like you using it, especially when you become rich and famous.
lol. Why so mean? :P
not mean, optimistic!
nah seriously, its fun to dream...
Quote from: cosmicr on Mon 23/03/2009 00:21:14
nah seriously, its fun to dream...
Heheh it's true. Esspecially when it motivates you to make games :)
To be honest, making name for your own "studios" isnt bad as far as it motivates you and makes you feel better :)
Top Jack Games. Use a playing card based theme for the logo. Do I really have to do all the hard work for you?
Very simple creative process, switched around the words, so had potjacker. Split words, removed -er from end of jaker. pot jak. spun the letters of pot around, got top, added the mandatory c to jak to make Jack. Top Jack Games. No company using Top Jack or Top Jack Games are on a first page google search, so they probably don't exist.
I accept payment in Valium or Euros.
Nah seriously, you obviously are having trouble with this creative process... good luck with your game. I am offering the rights to use this name for FREE. You have 24 hours to accept, or anyone else is welcome to it.
Quote from: Layabout on Mon 23/03/2009 12:59:03
Nah seriously, you obviously are having trouble with this creative process... good luck with your game. I am offering the rights to use this name for FREE. You have 24 hours to accept, or anyone else is welcome to it.
lol you dont have any rights on this name yet, but i don't think it's a good name... dont make sense to me... :-\ just my nick in reverse
"Jackpot!" would be nice :) with one handed bandit showing three jack-in-the-box'es :)
Personally, I'm liking the 'Jack In The Pot' from the previous batch. It's slightly sinister, but also vague enough to work for anything. Hell the Jack could even be one of those cross things you bounce a ball and pick up.
or jack the stripper (i mean, jack the ripper xD), but i preffer using jack in the pot.
That's no problem. I thought Top Jack was quite good for a 5 minute thinkfest. topjackgames.com/net and jackinthepot.com/net are both the same length AND available. The only problem you will find with both of these is that when people search for your site, it will have trouble differentiating between all the other sites that also use those two words, thus not giving you the best name for being found and having a high search ranking.
The name Top Jack was meant to be vague in meaning, most people do not care what your company is called as long as it is memorable. Going for topjack games would be better as the google rank would be higher.
Your Company name needs to be easily remembered, have a good logo and have an available domain name to register.
Remember, the name doesn't mean anything. It is the product that gives meaning to the name. You could make the worlds most amazing game (you won't) and be called Bugger me in the Arse Entertainment. (admittedly, you'd probably just call yourself BMA Entertainment if you choose that name) That name would certainly be well known, and people would now associate great products with the name. Before, they would have just though you were a Men's social club.
Quote from: Jakerpot on Mon 23/03/2009 23:04:46
or jack the stripper (i mean, jack the ripper xD), but i preffer using jack in the pot.
Marvelous. I'll have Nick the Stripper in my head all week now, thanks.
Quote from: Renal Shutdown on Tue 24/03/2009 15:46:22
Quote from: Jakerpot on Mon 23/03/2009 23:04:46
or jack the stripper (i mean, jack the ripper xD), but i preffer using jack in the pot.
Marvelous. I'll have Nick the Stripper in my head all week now, thanks.
xD sorry. Layabout: I don't think jack in the pot have a low search ranking. Jack-In-The-Pot would also help.
I was just saying that in and the are usually omitted from google search results, and i'm pretty sure google ignores dashes as well and replaces them with spaces. So the google search will go for Jack Pot, for which a million casino sites will show up before your site does.
ok, but i mean, if you search exactly: "Jack In The Pot Games" and i make my site named as this, the user probably will find the correct site, and i will add the url to the site above the name when finished, if the user can't remember the name, just play my games ;)
Quote from: Layabout on Wed 25/03/2009 06:05:49
I was just saying that in and the are usually omitted from google search results
Jack in the Pot Games will come up with a million casino sites.
Google omits in and the.
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss297/ryano082/jitpgames.jpg)
I know I'm late to this discussion, but you don't necessarily have to have a team name. You could just put "A Jakerpot game" (think, "a Steven Spielberg film")
~Trent
With AGS games, if you are just making the odd one here and there and none are commercial, then having a name is pointless. I've said this before, haven't I?
People will be looking at the game you make, and only that really. In terms of AGS, the only 'company names' I can remember are Wadjet Eye, Sektor 13 and Grundislav (probably one or two more if I try harder). And these all have many great games to their names.
When you have made one or two good games, that have been well recieved by the AGS community, that is when you shoud be doing this sort of exercise...
Yes, markbilly's right. You can just put your nickname there like many people here advised you. Take Ben Croshaw mostly known as Yahtzee. So he makes awesome games. When you here his name, you say "Ah, this game's made by him. It's definitely worh trying it out." (this is just an example, there are other great devs here :):):)).
I dont agree with you guys completely. As I said before - if it motivates him to work and makes him feel happier then let him do it. It's not like there's something wrong with it. Maybe he needs it to get things started :)
Don't forget Herculean Effort. Now that's a memorable company name.
Herculean Effort? ::) what the heck... Ok, but i want to have a company, and if they can remember yahtzee, why can't they remember jack in the pot? If they know me (jakerpot) will be easy to remember, and the logo will help.
Who *IS* that Yatzeeh guy people keep talking about?
Quote from: Jakerpot on Thu 26/03/2009 17:09:20
Herculean Effort? ::) what the heck... Ok, but i want to have a company, and if they can remember yahtzee, why can't they remember jack in the pot? If they know me (jakerpot) will be easy to remember, and the logo will help.
"Jack in the pot" is an awfully long name. It sounds more like the name of a casino than a game-designing company. In the four second window of time you have for retaining new visitors on your website, you don't want to give them the wrong impression of what the website is about.
Remember, you're not naming the company something you like, but something your customers will like.
For SEO, having the word "games" in your company name, while still coming up with a non-generic sounding name is ideal. Misj's idea "CreatIV Games" is a good example.
Quote from: Ghost on Thu 26/03/2009 17:21:57
Who *IS* that Yatzeeh guy people keep talking about?
you made my day :)
I like Jack in the Pot. But Jakerpot Games is still up. I don't like CreatIV Games anymore... Who like Jakerpot Games raise your hand!
*raises hand*
*raises hand*
Well I didn't take part in the previous discussion, but I'd say that 'Jakerpot Games' sounds best. And Layabout is right, if you want people to find your name through google search, 'Jack in the Pot' is not the best option, hyphens or no hyphens.
*raises hand*
Quote from: Jakerpot on Fri 27/03/2009 16:37:45
*raises hand*
I'd raise mine, but you are decided anyway, right?
100 POST!!!! HA!
not certain yet, but if at least 10 peaple raise they hands, i will.
Quote from: Jakerpot on Fri 27/03/2009 16:49:50
not certain yet, but if at least 10 peaple raise they hands, i will.
What happens if 9 people raise their hands, will you not bother then? Go back to the drawing board?
Jakerpot, don't be ridiculous. This isn't a 'raise your hand to convince me' forum. Either go with one of the suggestions or think of something on your own and stick with it.
I don't want to have to start pruning this thread, but I will if necessary.
Quote from: Jakerpot on Fri 27/03/2009 16:49:50
not certain yet, but if at least 10 peaple raise they hands, i will.
I asked around, and I got 10 people to raise their hands. They all agreed you should stop faffing about with a name and a logo for now, and actually make something to release first.
Those 10 then raised their other hands to agree with that plan, too.
i'm making a game. I'm almost launching a demo, so i need a name for the company.
Who thinks Jakerpot is just making up excuses for not working on his game?
*raises hand*
*raises both hands*
A "Company Name" is not a need to launch any game or demo. Just say "A Jackerpot production".
yeah i know, but i would like to use Jakerpot Games. So it almost decided, if no one has any more suggestions, i can finish the case.
I'm not sure if anyone cares. We are far more interested in playing your game.
Quote from: Jakerpot on Sat 28/03/2009 01:42:36
yeah i know, but i would like to use Jakerpot Games. So it almost decided, if no one has any more suggestions, i can finish the case.
It sounds like you have your heart set on the name, but as I said before, don't pick a name that is appealing to you, but one that will be appealing to your customers.
The word "Jakerpot" just don't sound good to me. The word "Jaker" sounds either like "Joker" or "Jake". The word "pot" is either a reference to a toilet or perhaps marijuana. Overall the word doesn't sound very appealing. Maybe that's just me, though.
Quote from: Gregjazz on Sat 28/03/2009 17:28:20
Maybe that's just me, though.
It has a certain ring to it, but for some strange reason makes me think of Quackerjack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quackerjack)...
Quote from: markbilly on Sat 28/03/2009 10:21:38
We are far more interested in playing your game.
If you are so, why don't you comment on the topic? ( ;D) Yeah, i think its just you Gregjazz :P i think many players don't even care about the company name, but when the company make 5 or 6 games, and they start to be a little famous, they start to care about it.
Quote from: Jakerpot on Sat 28/03/2009 22:54:08
Yeah, i think its just you Gregjazz :P i think many players don't even care about the company name, but when the company make 5 or 6 games, and they start to be a little famous, they start to care about it.
The connotations of a company name is extremely important. However, if you're looking to just make free games and have fun, I guess you don't need to care about that.
Exactly ;) if i would make a commercial game i would use another name of course. something like, hum...
Maybe CreatIV Games? ;D
And it starts again lol. Seriously Jakerpot just pick something, you can always change it later.
Jakerpot Games
Quote from: Jakerpot on Sat 28/03/2009 23:47:33
Exactly ;) if i would make a commercial game i would use another name of course. something like, hum...
Maybe CreatIV Games? ;D
Do not do that.
I don't completely agree with Greg's points. Firstly, I don't see why Jakerpot doesn't sound appealing. It's original so what's the deal? And how do you even define appealing? It's so subjective that you can't possibly please everyone. I don't think such things as "bad/unappealing company names" exist. The important thing is that it's memorable. Jakerpot Games is a name you don't forget in an instant, unlike boring names such as CreatIV Games.
Secondly, by putting the Jakerpot Games logo into your free games you create an identity for yourself as a game developer. If you change the name all of a sudden part of this identity is destroyed, especially if you start using a boring corporate name. Also, people will see through it. They will think "Oh, he changed the name to something 'professional' sounding because he wants people to buy his game. That's so cheap."
I was just kidding, when i use ;D its because i'm kidding. I wont use CreatIV Games, i will use Jakerpot Games. Its now oficial! Wo-Ho! *Break a champagne bottle on my computer screen*
Quote from: Pablo on Sun 29/03/2009 10:27:56
I don't completely agree with Greg's points. Firstly, I don't see why Jakerpot doesn't sound appealing. It's original so what's the deal? And how do you even define appealing? It's so subjective that you can't possibly please everyone. I don't think such things as "bad/unappealing company names" exist. The important thing is that it's memorable. Jakerpot Games is a name you don't forget in an instant, unlike boring names such as CreatIV Games.
The thread's over, but I thought I'd respond to this post to clarify my position. Since you want to make a company name that appeals to your customers, you need to consider your market. If you're creating games for adolescents, something like "Toilethead Productions" could fly. If you're creating childrens' games, you need to bear in mind that their parents will probably be buying the games for them, so you need to come up with a company name that appeals to parents. Do you begin to see what I'm saying?
Anymore, while thousands of new companies are being created, you need to rely on something other than a catchy name to help your company catch on. (which is why we take into account SEO for the company name, market appeal, etc.)
Like I said, though, for a company that's going to be making free games, all this is probably far beyond what you need to consider.
probably, who will play my games are 12-30 + age persons, and if smaller children play it, probably parents will no know, because the download it on internet, not buy it. And Jakerpot Game, what's wrong if it? "Hey man, did you played Mansion Break?" "No, my father don't let me play it because the developers name is Jakerpot Games..." :-\
I know what you are trying to say, but it doesnt apply to me.