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Title: Critique on a character - priest
Post by: Dave Gilbert on Fri 11/04/2003 12:47:49
This is Father Raoul.  I like the way he looks, but I'm having a lot of trouble with that bloody priest's collar.  Can anybody help?

(http://www.davelgil.com/ags/jack.gif)

enlarged:

(http://www.davelgil.com/ags/jack.gif)
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: Eggie on Fri 11/04/2003 13:32:22
I like him a lot. Is he some sort of exorcist?
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: Flippy_D on Fri 11/04/2003 13:38:05
Priest's collar's are more like a square of white, not a vertical strip (I am just waiting for m0ds to pounce on that one). He looks like the kind of person that goes around stealing other people's girlfriends. How incongrous.
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: on Fri 11/04/2003 14:09:56
Great Character!

Are you using him in a game?
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: Rincewind on Fri 11/04/2003 14:14:22
Hehe, he looks like a quite nasty priest.
As if he had put acid in the communion cup, and being really proud of it, too... ;D  
The collar should probably be higher up, more on his throat.

Otherwise a great character. Looks great.
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: SSH on Fri 11/04/2003 14:32:53
If you must quote Monty Python, Rincewind, at least get it right!
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: Rincewind on Fri 11/04/2003 15:14:44
Edit:
Ok, just realized you were looking at my signature...  ;D Sorry, but I couldn't remember the lines correctly...
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: Scummbuddy on Fri 11/04/2003 19:52:27
When his side view is being looked at, his hair comes down just right that makes it look like hes demonic and that that is his brow.... I'd probably move it or change it somehow... but whatever.  and if you mirror that sprite, it wouldnt make sense that his hair is only coming down on his left, but its shown on the right... (if you get what i mean)

DOTT fell into this trap.  Bernard has his pocket protector on his left part of his shirt, but the way they mirrored images its always shown, and thats a mistake, but no one really cares...
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: Jimi on Fri 11/04/2003 19:56:30
I think what Scummbuddy said is very relevant. (How come you changed your name from ScummyB???)

I like the sprites, but I also made the mistake of mirroring it, and it looks like he has two guns, rather than one!
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: OneThinkingGal and ._. on Fri 11/04/2003 20:31:32
The collar should be higher IMO. :) Around the neck. And yeah, should be square.

Here's a pic (dont laugh :P) http://www.smt-inc.com/actone/products/costumes/grafx/full/cu-0034-full.jpg

Nice work on the char tho. :) Me likes.
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: Las Naranjas on Sat 12/04/2003 08:44:02
Of course what Flippy says is right, but I know that working in pixels, trying to make it wider would result in a assymetric image or a huge white band.

Short of resizing it (which I wouldn't advise, since it looks ace in that res) I don't know what to do.

If you do move it up like annie suggests it may work, after all, he seems to be wearing on the collar bone like a necklace rather than around the jugular. That may be congruous with the swagger suggested by that devilish scar, but the higher position may still help.
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: Flippy_D on Sat 12/04/2003 12:30:40
Two bits of crit:

On the side view his left foot his horribly deformed.
His hands are a different colour on the front view compared to the others.
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: Erwin_Br on Sat 12/04/2003 14:45:23
Here's another priest picture that might be helpful:

(http://azerty.org/bullorama/image/soda-dos.gif)

Priests don't usually wear guns, but this one is an undercover cop. (Just so you know)

--Erwin
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: Dave Gilbert on Sat 12/04/2003 14:46:21
Yeah, I agree with putting the white bit on the throat thing, but it still doesn't look "right."  What do you think?

(http://www.davelgil.com/ags/jack2.gif)
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: AndersM on Sat 12/04/2003 15:26:47
I like the 'strip' better than the 'dot' keep the strip and make the collar a little greyer just to the left and right of the strip. When the character is in his norman size (I suppose that the posted one is zoomed in) it will give an illusion of a bigger dot.
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: OneThinkingGal and ._. on Sat 12/04/2003 15:40:03
Hmmm was thinking of something like this:

(http://theloft.asp-world.co.uk/art/priest.gif)
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: Rincewind on Sat 12/04/2003 18:16:03
Hm - I think OTG has got it right there, although the back of his neck still seems too bare... Shouldn't the collar be higher up there too?
I'm not sure though, because I don't spy on priests from behind that often...  ;)
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: OneThinkingGal and ._. on Sat 12/04/2003 19:09:41
You're right, it should be. I only messed around with the front view. :)

Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: MrColossal on Sun 13/04/2003 05:50:58
also in his side view he has no butt and i'd recommend making the outline colour a little darker so that it shows better agaist his skin
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: aussie on Fri 25/04/2003 12:54:54
Priests have lots of buttons on their outfit. Maybe it's the jumper-type approach that doesn't look right to you.
Title: Re:Critique on a character - priest
Post by: Xadhoom on Sat 26/04/2003 12:56:29
Looks good. Really like his expression. I think he need to be a bit wider around the hips in the profile shot, though.