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Title: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: Igor on Tue 22/08/2006 12:36:42
Long time no posting (again :) )
Here's some illo for a t-shirt

(http://www.bugbrain.com/igor/ples1d.jpg)
Title: Re: Dancing
Post by: Ubel on Tue 22/08/2006 12:47:14
It's probably just my opinion, but I think adding a slight amount of contrast would make it perfect. You are good. :)
Title: Re: Dancing
Post by: Haddas on Tue 22/08/2006 13:59:04
Lose the clothes! Otherwise perfect!

And the contrast thingy
Title: Re: Dancing
Post by: loominous on Tue 22/08/2006 14:02:58
I usually don't have anything to suggest when it comes to your pics - they seem fit their aim perfectly -  but this one seemed like a departure in style, perhaps to accomodate the client.

(Animated)
(http://marcus.krupa.se/AGS/i_d.gif)

I think the thing that bothered me the most was the rather heavy makeup, as well as some of the saturated colours, which made her look somewhat like a, excuse the exhaggeration, drunken prostitute at a gym.

I think another thing that added to this was the glossiness of the face.

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The things I altered was:

The lip and eye shade makeup, which I toned down to give her a more natural healthy look.

Seperated her eyes apart a bit, by deleting a bit of the centre lines, to make her eyes smaller and prettier.

Changed the lighting, to give the impression of strong sunlight, causing overexposure, removing the specular on the cheek, which makes her skin look more smooth and healthy, and also gives it a bright summer day look. The lighting was only applied to certain areas, to draw the attention to the face.

Changed her pelvis direction, to avoid a strict sideview and make the pose more dynamic (it now twists more to the left).

Probably some other thing which I've forgotten.

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Hope some of the suggestions might help, and I'm looking forward to your next work.
Title: Re: Dancing
Post by: MashPotato on Tue 22/08/2006 16:58:42
Looks great! I really like your style ^_^

A suggestion: while the colouring looks like you were intending it to look like a loose, free style (which I think suits the energy of the picture), the brush strokes on the thigh of the raised leg look a little too messy to me, and seem out of place. 
I also think the brush strokes that go "out of the lines" by her raised hand, lowered foot, back, and butt could be cleaned up.  While this may have been intended, I think it would look best to keep the curves as clean and smooth as possible.
Title: Re: Dancing
Post by: Igor on Tue 22/08/2006 17:48:36
Woo, thanks everyone for critics and suggestions and especially to Loom for his great edit! :)

Loominous: it's a pleasure to see your paint-over :) Really like what you did with her left leg (i'll fix it)!
About highlights- i deliberately decided to left them out. I had them on pic at first (almost exactly the same as on your edit), but found out i don't really want to go that way.. i decided for more "flat" look, with only a few subtle shadows and highlights.
As for her face.. it looks a lot prettier on your edit!.. but at the same time, in my opinion, a lot more generic too. I think version with make-up gives her more character and so makes her interesting.

MashPotato- great suggestion about trousers :) I'm not sure about them also, so i'll play some more with them! (don't want too clean and polished look either)

And some more doodling hehe ;)

Telephone sketches (drawn while talking on phone):
(http://www.bugbrain.com/igor/telefonskekrace.jpg)

Trying out pantone markers:
(http://www.bugbrain.com/igor/pantone.jpg)

Summer sketching:
(http://www.bugbrain.com/igor/poletje.jpg)
Title: Re: Dancing
Post by: SinSin on Tue 22/08/2006 20:33:41
your amazing i like your style
Title: Re: Dancing
Post by: Evil on Tue 22/08/2006 21:55:10
The brown on the pants looks bad. She looks very elegant, but she has dirt over her pants and behind.


Also, where are all of these cute girls that wander around topless?
Title: Re: Dancing
Post by: Mordalles on Wed 23/08/2006 01:58:50
I'm jealous.  >:(
Title: Re: Dancing
Post by: Andail on Wed 23/08/2006 16:11:47
Awesome art.
While I can agree on some of Loom's points, I sort of enjoyed the original water-colour feeling of the painting. The exaggarated values and highlights certainly added a touch of something wear-and-tear, but it also delivered something comical a la Franquin.
Title: Re: Dancing
Post by: yarooze on Wed 23/08/2006 20:55:37
awesome picture! The girl ist very cute. IMHO she looks better without makeup (second picture). But it is possible that I simple like girls without makeup. ::)

Only one thing: Her left hand. I tryed, it is painfull to make something like she did.Ã,  ;)

2 Igor: The boy looks in the false direction...Ã,  ;)
Title: Re: Dancing
Post by: Igor on Fri 25/08/2006 16:05:45
Thanks everyone, appreciate your comments! :)
Here's some more of my recent illos (for children mag):

animals on this illo are stickers:

(http://www.bugbrain.com/igor/morjesmall.jpg)

mascot design:
(http://www.bugbrain.com/igor/maskote.jpg)
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: Sektor 13 on Fri 25/08/2006 17:58:15
*Hehe, HUDE SO ! Se posebej te tazadnje :)*

Very nice indeed ! Will those last pictures be used in children magazine and which one if so ?
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: buloght on Fri 25/08/2006 19:48:22
1. You are too good.  :o
2. I hate you for it.
3. I suggest you make the best graphically AGS game ever.
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: Nikolas on Fri 25/08/2006 21:37:22
Igor, you're amazing. Period.

Now on my artisitc problems/suggestions/ideas/etc...

I see this illo are stickers and wonder: All the 'characters', and there are a lot of them, are mae with exaclty the same technique and the same ideas. Would it be better to alter a couple a little? Would it made the image more interesting maybe? I mean keeping the same technique gives coherence but lakcs maybe interest.

My take and my comparison in other forms of art, and not graphic arts exclusively. Don't take into account fully what I say.
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: n3tgraph on Fri 25/08/2006 22:41:23
is there a connection between igor and neole???

Where is neole anyway?
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: Ali on Sat 26/08/2006 10:59:19
There's very little I could suggest with regard to improving your character designs. I particularly love the looseness of the sketches.

What I'd like to see is how you could bring character to a scene without characters, if you see what I mean. These are great character studies, but I'd love to see how you deal with composition and mis-en-scene.
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: Igor on Sat 26/08/2006 16:31:38
Sektor 13- Zivjo :) it's for magazine called Beo-beo (first issue will be out in september- if i know correctly)

Nikolas- good ideas! :) Yeah, it could be better if i'd draw a few completely different fishes.

n3tgraph- no connection, but i'm also wondering where is Neole??

Ali- i'm not sure if i understood you correctly. Do you mean if i do backgrounds?
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: Ali on Sun 27/08/2006 11:07:59
Sorry, I wasn't clear. In adventure game terms, backgrounds are what I was talking about. I've seen some atmospheric locations in your work, but usually framing a character. I'd be interested to see how you'd bring character and energy to something like a still-life or a landscape.
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: Igor on Sun 27/08/2006 16:26:38
Oh, i see.. eee.. i don't do much landscapes. Sometimes yes, but i'm not very fond of drawing them. Everything i work on is usualy very character based (be it animations, illustrations or comics). I guess i find them the most fun to draw or something.. backgrounds on the other hand are a pain in the a**

Actually the only time i draw backgrounds is, when they are completely necessary (and there's no one else who would do them ;)).

Quote from: Ali on Sun 27/08/2006 11:07:59
I'd be interested to see how you'd bring character and energy to something like a still-life or a landscape.

As i said, i don't have much to show, but here's some in-game background work for an educational game i'm working on right now.
Quick sketch of swamp:

(http://www.bugbrain.com/muzej/mocvirjepanorama.jpg)

WIP of first layer (the background will be in 3 layers):
(http://www.bugbrain.com/igor/probamocvirje.jpg)

And a few scenes from Ignac intro animation:
(http://www.bugbrain.com/igor/ignac.jpg)

(a few BGs from game are also on my web site).
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: ildu on Sun 27/08/2006 16:46:26
No one is allowed to question igor's bg abilities, for he is the creator of the late ignac, a game with basically unrivaled bg art.

And igor, I sometimes frequent your portfolio to look for updates, but there rarely are any, although you seem to be up to something all the time. Do you have a sketchblog or something? Also, there are some broken links in your site. In addition, the links to the different parts of the site at the bottom don't seem to work.

Oh, and I think I spotted you posting on a thread at the Computer Arts forum.
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: n3tgraph on Tue 29/08/2006 11:57:49
Igor your sprites rock! :)
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: Ali on Tue 29/08/2006 15:11:41
I hope I didn't sound like I was questioning your abilities, as ildu suggested I was just interested as to why you often chose characters over backgrounds. Those images look amazing, but it's interesting to me that you find background work more boring. From an outside perspective those backdrops are far from boring!
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: MashPotato on Tue 29/08/2006 18:48:29
*sigh* I wish my backgrounds could be that "boring"...
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: Igor on Wed 30/08/2006 13:40:15
Ildu- thanks, but they are not really that good.. ;)

>>to look for updates, but there rarely are any<<
uh i know, i'm ready to update it with some new stuff..
About blog- i have registered one, but i have yet to publish something :)

>>posting on a thread at the Computer Arts forum<<
yes, i was there a couple of times :)

Ali- no of course not, not at all! :) It was interesting because i realized i almost didn't do background-only drawing in a 2 year period.
Don't get me wrong, i love to look at background designs, i just don't like to draw them myself.

MashPotato- haha, it's not backgrounds i find boring, but the process of drawing them ;)
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: Andail on Thu 31/08/2006 09:47:09
Quote from: ildu on Sun 27/08/2006 16:46:26
No one is allowed to question igor's bg abilities,
Everyone's allowed to do that. As long as they provide some sort of back-up arguments or constructive c&c. This is the critics lounge, not a personal fansite.
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: Cluey on Thu 31/08/2006 10:35:38
Wow, your drawings have immense character. As for the backgrounds, they look awesome, but I do understand your hatred for the process especially with complex forest scenes etc.
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: ildu on Thu 31/08/2006 13:28:14
Quote from: Andail on Thu 31/08/2006 09:47:09
Quote from: ildu on Sun 27/08/2006 16:46:26
No one is allowed to question igor's bg abilities,
Everyone's allowed to do that. As long as they provide some sort of back-up arguments or constructive c&c. This is the critics lounge, not a personal fansite.

Umm, I wasn't being serious. I thought it was obvious with the whole gospel-like declaration.
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: Mordalles on Thu 31/08/2006 23:50:34
i'm jealous.

it bears repeating.  >:(
Title: Re: Dancing (and other illustrations)
Post by: buloght on Fri 01/09/2006 00:52:52
I have checked out the ignac demo (i think I downloaded the demo) and I thought DOTT had the bestest of best cartoony bgs, but ignac does not stand second to it  :). Ignac rules.