(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/mutantleg/wiir.gif)
I just redraw the old sprite of her, but i still feel she looks like... you know 'hey-is-that-thing-born-as-a-male?' :-\
Any suggestions on how i can get rid of that (apart from removing her musclesÃ, :) ) look?
You could slim down the face, and everything else for that matter and make the muscles more defined.
the most apparent female attribute is the shoulder-waist-hips relation. A woman's shoulders are rarely broader than her hips, and in any case, her hips are much broader than her waist.
Also, a female waist is situated further up on the body, thus constituting a much smaller upper body in relation to the lower body.
The only female attribute your sprite conveys would her mangnificent bust (which works pretty well, even though not very realistic; the breasts of body-building women tend to shrink).
So, unless you allot your sprite at least one of these attributes, she will probably remain rather manly. But hey, it's a toon, it shouldn't really matter :)
Heh, this sprite really reminds me of Goblins. Anyway...
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/musclewoma.gif)
Here's the list of changes that I made:
- added makeup
- added a necklace to her neck
- made her body and face slimmer
- changed her hairstyle
- converted her boots to high heels
- changed the colour of the tank top and boxing gloves
I hope this gives you an idea.
Thanks for the ideas so far, based on them here's my new version:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/mutantleg/wiir2.gif)
Now how could i improve this one? (i dont really like how her face turned out :-\ at least now she hasnt got that 'i stole my chin from schwarzenegger' thing :) )
In gremlins 2 they gave the female gremlin shapely legs big lips and eye lashes with plenty of make up to try and make her less male like. I tried to do this in my quick edit. Oh yeah I made her shirt tied in the center, as it tends to look queer on guys.
(http://members.cox.net/hjrodrigo/fem.png)
Some femenising modifications:
(http://w1.872.telia.com/~u87210460/AGS/wiir2_mod1.gif)
Some femenin features:
(i) Full eyelashes
(ii) Vertically centered eyes
(iii) Small nose
(iv) Full mouth
(v) Large pelvis
(Say, wasnt that thing on gremlins 2 was both male and female? I remember the flask the gremlin drink from had both genders' symbols... err--)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/mutantleg/wiir3.gif)
Or i better use loominous' version?Ã, ???
I think you should propably do the boob- and jawline somewhat like Loominous' version. I think that would get the male hormones under some control. She's never going to be pretty, tho... :=
Unless you drink a six-packs before playing... := err... i better rethink this game... :(
(i wish i could draw that good, like the guy who makes polymer city chronicles... whatever :-\ )
err, it IS a good sprite. Its just whatever you do, a chick with muscles is never going to look pretty. maybe slim her down a little, make her look a little less goofy and a bit more serious on the face. Much like loominous' edit.
Here is a quick draft, not sure if you will like it or not
(http://members.cox.net/veradin/wiir4.gif)
I kept the muscles but made them a little less unattractive, made the legs larger to match the arms, moved her chest and waist up, and gave her a more flattering hair style.
Personally, I don't much like the added green colour for the eyes.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/mutantleg/wiir5.gif)
Ok, so this one is based on the mouth, nose, and legs of ProgZmax's version, plus the very first (incomplete) sprite (that was made for 640*400 resolution, not 480 but thats not the important part, oops :) )
Hmm maybe its a little too manly now. like besides the hair, it could just look like a Rambo type guy.
AS HJRodrigo said, makeup makes a difference.
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/asdfsdfg.gif)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/asdfsdfg.gif)
I think loominous's version looks the most feminin, try to mimick it the best you can.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/mutantleg/wiir6.gif)
What about this one?
Give 'er rosy cheeks.. maybe make the top pink hehe and lose the gloves? ::) just some suggestions as i can't actually draw yet myself :-\
I don't think pink would look good on her, then again, i don't think pink looks good on anything, yuck :P
I like how it's turned out, but her left hand looks a lot bigger than her right for some reason. more ditance from the shoulder strap to the end of the shoulder on the left one, if you now what I mean. Maybe making the right hand smaller in that part would work. Something like the one on the other two images, but still making the left arm a bit bigger, I think.
And I kinda like the gloves :P
edit: Also, the hair bit thats hanging out still looks odd. Too much hair gel?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/mutantleg/wiir7.gif)
What about this one? (just ignore my ol' good slaveÃ, :) )
("Also, the hair bit thats hanging out still looks odd. Too much hair gel?"
by popular demand, the story of the hairbit!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/mutantleg/hairbit.gif
As you see back then the game started in rpgmaker2000, and i was too lazy to draw my own characters from scratch. So, when i finally get good enough to redesign the charaters the hair that covered the "female-ninja's" eyes evolved into the hairbit.)
yeah this one is a lot better especially the face, though i think maybe the chest could be mistaken for a large (muscly)Ã, guy's chestÃ, :-\ or maybe i'm stupid hehe
Quote from: elle on Tue 24/08/2004 22:57:09
yeah this one is a lot better especially the face, though i think maybe the chest could be mistaken for a large (muscly) guy's chest :-\ or maybe i'm stupid hehe
No you're right, they do sort of look like a guys muscly chest rather than breasts.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/mutantleg/wiir8.gif)
The perspective of the chest looks a bit un centralized. Here is a quick edit that tries to centralize the breast correctly, while keeping the correct perspective.
(http://members.cox.net/hjrodrigo/hmm.gif)
well I think that looks a lot beter. But the breasts still looked strange to me. They were just to round :P(I know theyr supose to be smartass ;)).
It's not a BIG change but I think it looks better this way.
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/hmm4.GIF)
BTW. I changed her left foot a bit to. I just extended it for 1 pixel.
Hold your horses, i know it could be improved like ten million more times, but i want to start on the animations and such. :P
Thanks for the help everyone, i couldnt do this one without you ;D
Heh well I've got one more suggestion. How about making the face a touch darker to match with the darkest bit on the arms.
Ya' know I was thinking after looking down through the posts maybe she might look more girly if her hair was blonde or red? Black is rarley anyones hair color more of a dark dark brown.
Here is an example of what I mean, although I suck w/ hair & shading :=
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/paintovdm.PNG) Vs. (http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/hmm4.GIF)
I think the blonde will realy work for it. Maybe add a lil' green bow in her hair :D
the red one is funny lol she looks like a drag queen :D
blonde isnt such a bad idea..