New VGA Image from LSL3

Started by Bastos, Fri 08/10/2004 16:01:21

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Bastos

Hey,

new image from another character from lsl3

Enjoy

Original

EDIT : Changed the nose
Retouched

InCreator

ouch.

But... her nose is somewhat wrong.
And what's the deal with orange skin? (see: left and right cheek)

Try to shade sides of face harder, to remove flat look.

Bastos

hmmm,

I am making this on a notebook, maybe my colors are a bit off.... will check em tonight on my pc at home.....

Yeah, that nose could use some work, looks like she got hit by a big fist.....
Didn't notice it before....

L8r!

BlackMan890

original.. she looks hot, modified... she looks unhappy..
that is the biggest proplem by moving an ega to vga

other than that it looks good
you can see her neck in the original but in the modified vesion it disapears
Jonatan Nilsson
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Sluggo

I think it looks really good, around the nose there are some weird dark tan lines that maybe shouldn't be there.

blackman, she looks hot? I think this was one of the ugly girls Larry slept with actually, she's supposed to be older and frumpy. I think perhaps she's too pretty in the VGA version.

InCreator

With "orange" I meant orange like fruit.

Her sides of face (especially her left, near mouth) look like really fat & old woman's feet!
I suppose it must like thin layers of hair on face or something, but it just makes her skin look old and fatty.

I really like what you did with her eyes, but mouth looks alot cuter in EGA version...

Krazy

Quote from: blackman890 on Fri 08/10/2004 17:19:04
original.. she looks hot

Uh I'm gonna pretend you mean her body temperature is very high...

I hope that IS what you mean, unless you're turned on by 16 colour pixilated drawings from the late 80's.
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James Kay

The VGA versions looks like she's aged 20 years orso. It's not a bad draw-over, but remember LSL is supposed to be about hot girls, not women that look like my old 6th form teacher who had a cosmetics fetish and a chronic depression.

BlackMan890

Quote from: James Kay on Sat 09/10/2004 10:38:22
The VGA versions looks like she's aged 20 years orso. It's not a bad draw-over, but remember LSL is supposed to be about hot girls, not women that look like my old 6th form teacher who had a cosmetics fetish and a chronic depression.
thats what i was trying to say
Jonatan Nilsson
860 Iceland

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Chicky

#9
Well, before i start this is a very nice conversion of quite a hard picture to convert.

But as people have said, it DOES lack that certain seduction which comes with most 'hot' women. Now from what i have seen, to make a women have that 'hot' look about her (in a drawing) you need a fairly smooth face with no harsh angles*.

Now that was the first thing that stuck out at me, the second was the WIP neck. This really didn't help the nasty angles on the chin as it being a much darker, strong colour just made these stand out a lot more.

Anyhow, after taking these things into thought i made a quick edit to show you what i mean.



I also added highlights on the cheek bones and around the eye sockets.

cheers,




* A strong jaw line with harsh edges leans more towards the make atributes, which is certainly a turn-off :P


{edit} ok, maybe i went a little overboard with the slimming down of the face.

stuh505

The original woman was white and you have made her asian.

She looked drugged out originally, and now she looks pissed off.

That said, I think your version looks a lot hotter.  You have the correct shape of the face in your drawing, but the edges could be made more smooth.  Don't make the face longer...

You can easily change the expression to coy/sexy or back to retarded just by parting the mouth.

If you reduce the flushness in her cheecks in intensity, and move this flushness down a little bit, her face will look less 2d.

Excellent job.

fovmester

Quote from: stuh505 on Sun 10/10/2004 22:43:01
The original woman was white and you have made her asian.

She looked drugged out originally, and now she looks pissed off.

That said, I think your version looks a lot hotter.  You have the correct shape of the face in your drawing, but the edges could be made more smooth.  Don't make the face longer...

You can easily change the expression to coy/sexy or back to retarded just by parting the mouth.

If you reduce the flushness in her cheecks in intensity, and move this flushness down a little bit, her face will look less 2d.

Excellent job.
I was just about to say this! Damn you! ;)

Ninjagirl

I dunno, I personally think that the original woman is ugly, and therefore if you're going to be true to that image, the successive ones will have to look just as pudge ;)

Bastos, I really like what you have done - I love the hair especially. You've kept fairly true to the original. The person commenting above me said she looks asian now. I think that adding a few more shadows UNDER her eyes would fix this. Take a look at your version and then the original, to see what I mean. Because you haven't replicated the shadowy parts there, her skin looks tight under her eyes (which seems to be a typical asian trait) (and I can say that because I am half asian :P )

Anyway, the cheekbone shading is very nice, but it is in the wrong place. You have lowered her cheekbones too much here.

Also, where the blush fades into her skintone, there should be an area of pinks and tans - you know, so that the blush colour blends. As it is, she reminds me of this actor that I saw on X-files, who when he died, bugs spewed out of his mouth. I dont know if you know who I'm talking about and its irrelevant I guess anyway hehe. At any point, adding a few darker tones around the lower area of her face should fix this.

Her lips are not true to the original. The colouring/rendering is lovely, but the shape is wrong.  If you want her to be more conventionally beautiful, I suggest injecting some collagen into her upper lip. Give her a Kiera Knightly pout.

You have kept her chin area true to the original, but when translating from pixelled art like this you have to realise that the original might not be proportionally/etc correct. When you try to convert an image like this to realism, you can't copy everything straight off. You have to try to think about what the original artist was trying to convey.

It seems to me that the darker patches around her chin are areas of shadow. They make her look chubby. In your image you have not translated this - I think this is why people have said that you have aged her considerably. It seems that you have translated the shadow into lines on her face. The lines you have drawn on her chin are far too stark and make it appear as if her skin is sagging there.

What I suggest you do to remedy this, is go over the dark areas at the point of her chin with that yellow/tan colour you have used to highlight the chin. Go over everything. Blend the new highlighted chin colour into the edges of her jawbone. THEN use a second layer (if you choose) to add shadow and lower the opacity until it blends in appropriately.

I hope you can understand what I mean.

A finer point: An extra layer of very very tiny (smallest brush size) white/highlight strokes over the eyebrows, on the lashes, on the lips, blended in, will make them come out more.

I also think that her hair, while awesome, could use some highlighting.

If you are interested in anything I have said/have any questions etc, feel free to ask me here or whatever.

I think you've done a great job. It's easy for people to criticize things because EVERYONE is surrounded by examples of anatomical correctness in everyday life (we all look at ourselves in the mirror). It is another thing to have come as far as you have.

Angelos



In the remake her lips are completelly closed.

The original looks hot because her lips are slightly open showing a tiny bit of
her teeth. This pose suggests that she is breathing heavily and thus the "hot" effect.

I don't need to link to reference images do I ?

Angelos


DodgeR

#14
starting off saying i think the colours look pretty good.Ã,  The eyes are well done and the levels of contrast work well

Ill keep this short because i dont have much time and i hate writing, the way i see it is the jaw is very prominent as already mentioned but easily fixed.Ã,  In the origional image i have no doubt that face was done from a model of photograph, which is where they have captured the perfect anatomy of a face.Ã,  The face has lines where things match up if they dont drawn faces look unatural i did a very fast and dodgy paintover below to highlight this

I altered the chin because when drawing the ladies you dont even really need to define their jaw area only hint at it(i have about a hundred sheets of paper under my bed of badly drawn women, they are damn hard to draw).Ã,  i drew lines from the corner of the eyes to the corner of the lips.Ã,  This shows a line when it hits the edge of the nostrils if you dont do this on a portrait you end up with it looking abnormal( Think micheal jackson here) so you could think about maybe widening the nostril on the right side of the pic, and working more on the jaw hope that helps someÃ, 



Keep going with it


Bastos

#15
Hello all,

thnx for the comments, tips and more.... will try to be more patient when i do another one.... but as said, trying to recreate a 16 color image to highresolution is indeed not easy, and after a while you have the tendency to forget the original and just go and make your own version..... ;)

One last thing, the one comment i saw a lot was the one about the lines on the right lower side, those are not shadows on here face, but are included in the hair layer, actually those are left overs from spraying the hair, i left them because i would look like some few hairs were falling over her chin... guess that was not a good move  ;D

CU all L8r!

Chicky

Dodge you keep your screwed up paper under your bed? I have a pile in the corner of my room just for females :)

BlackMan890

well, i now notice that she has a pretty big mouth :=
Jonatan Nilsson
860 Iceland

Please go to www.simnet.is/elinnils52 and download my non ags/adventure game :)

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