Guy in a suit

[Hudders]

Hi everybody

I'd appreciate some C&C on this guy. He'll be the protagonist of my MAGS game. I'd especially like some advice concerning his hands because they seem to look terrible no matter what I do.

[Calin Leafshade]

His eyes bothered me.. unless the startled look was intentional

[ddq]

I just think Hudders has an exceptional talent for drawing rapists.

[Anian]

HE SEES INTO MY SOUL!

But seriously, what do you think is wrong with his arms?
- I'd just shorten his torso (take out about 4-5 px beneath the button of the jacket but you can even lenghten his legs for that amount, so the height stays the same). - also you might fix his shoulders a tad, they're not symetrical (I'd make the left one match the on on the right, although, in reality, it'd probably be the other way around, cause of the stlye I think they'd look better more curvy than an angle)
- there might be less of a cuffling showing in this position, because the sleeves would be too short if he lifts his arms if they were like this.

Btw, except fot the stare, I really like this.

[Hudders]

I just think Hudders has an exceptional talent for drawing rapists.

Hahaha. I didn't even think that the stare was that creepy. Maybe you're right and rapists are all I can draw.

I'll try and do something about that, although Calin's edit looks a bit squinty to me.

But seriously, what do you think is wrong with his arms?
- I'd just shorten his torso (take out about 4-5 px beneath the button of the jacket but you can even lenghten his legs for that amount, so the height stays the same). - also you might fix his shoulders a tad, they're not symetrical (I'd make the left one match the on on the right, although, in reality, it'd probably be the other way around, cause of the stlye I think they'd look better more curvy than an angle)
- there might be less of a cuffling showing in this position, because the sleeves would be too short if he lifts his arms if they were like this.

It's the hands that are bothering me, they look more like paws. I'm going to reduce the cuff like you mentioned because you're probably right - it never occurred to me, even with all the references I looked at.

Looking at Calin's edit, on the blue background, I can now see he has a kind of hunch on his right shoulder which is probably what you're referencing in saying the shoulders should be more symmetrical.

EDIT: Second effort

[WHAM]

The size of the eyes and the pupils is a very difficult one.
In the first version he stares directly into your sould (likely pondering matters of violent rape), in Calin's edit he's staring at your genitals (and is not too happy about what he sees) and in the new edit he seems to have spotted a silly-shaped cloud up there somewhere.

I'd try to make the eye whites only 1 px tall and work from there. Another option is to make the eyes decisively bigger (see "anime eyes") which allows for more detail but changes the style dramatically, and perhaps not for the better.

[Peanut Monkey]

Yes, can you not just make them 1px tall?


(Just moving the shadows underneath up.)

I'm sure you can play with the colours and everything (maybe less dark underneath) but they end up looking too big otherwise.  I have to say I do love the very first version though (well, it made me laugh in a good way), but I'm guessing that look probably won't fit the story...

[gameboy]

On Peanut Monkey's paintover it looks like he's intentionally squinting his eyes. You might try not make the eye whites visible at all, since eyes are usually in the shadow and the white kind of blends in the skin colour. But if you're going for a cartoony style, I think your original picture is pretty good.

[WHAM]

The squint coms from the eyebrow shape. I don't have time to do a paintover right now, but slight changes in those could do the trick.

[Babar]

You could use Peanut's example if you removed the darker skin shade under the eyes. After that, since you've already improved the hands a reasonable amount, I'd personally say you're set, and should probably move on . This being a MAGS game, you probably don't want to be wasting too much time on every single sprite, and this one is already pretty good!

[Hudders]

I agree. I've moved on:



The crouched down version is terrible but it wont feature in the game much so I'm not sure it's worth spending any time sorting it out.

[Atelier]

Is he a suave swindler or a pencil pusher? If it's the prior you might consider making his appearance more peppy.