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Creative Production => Critics' Lounge => Topic started by: Tiki on Fri 06/10/2006 23:20:32

Title: Hippy - New Edit
Post by: Tiki on Fri 06/10/2006 23:20:32
This was originally made for the Sprite Jam, but I went a little overboard on colors and don't have a mind to reduce 100 colors from it ;)

This is a bit of a departure from my usual style in that I let loose the colors a little more, and the process was a little different. I started with a sketch and a couple reference pics from magazines, then moved on from there.  It's not supposed to be any one person in particular, but in my mind it was something of George Harrison mixed with John Lennon and John Sebastian

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/TikiTikiMan13/hippy-fullcolor.gif)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/TikiTikiMan13/hippy-fullcolor.gif)
In particular, the hands/arms and the shirt are giving me the most grief.  Any help?  I don't plan on entering this in the jam anymore, so this is legal.  ;)

(Edit:)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/TikiTikiMan13/hippy-edit.gif)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/TikiTikiMan13/hippy-edit.gif)
Still not happy with parts of it.  See bottom post
Title: Re: Hippy
Post by: ManicMatt on Fri 06/10/2006 23:25:25
Woah that's great!

Is his nose supposed to be that big?

I don't have much to say being an amateur, just had to say "woah!" :)

Hmm the trousers.. something wrong there people? Can't put my finger on it..

For me, the lighter bits in his hair don't look like the right colour? Am I right people?


People?
Title: Re: Hippy
Post by: on Sat 07/10/2006 01:49:18
Best graphical Helm I've ever damn seen!

Seriously though, that is one awesome sprite :)

How could you improve it? I don't think you can :D
Title: Re: Hippy
Post by: OuchMyTentacle79 on Sat 07/10/2006 03:02:11
NICE!
I can say enough good things about it,you did a great job man.
definitely a hippy with a guitar.Will he be singing a song about a tree?
;)
Title: Re: Hippy
Post by: gameboy on Sat 07/10/2006 08:25:32
That's just beautiful! The only thing that looks a bit odd to me is his thumb.
Title: Re: Hippy
Post by: Tuomas on Sat 07/10/2006 18:40:29
It looks great at first sight. I'd look into a couple of things thoug. He's playing or holding the guitar is a bit aggressive. I mean, his shoulders are high and tense. Then, most people lean towards the neck of the guitar to reach better. At that, the right arm, the one on the neck is abit too small, the elbow is gone, and the sleeve should be in front more. I mean, it appears as if it was behind the chest...

Then the thumb and the trousers. About the trousers, I think what bothers ManicMatt is how the left sleeve folds near the foot. If you get my point.

The guitar seems to be lagging the saddle, I think... And you could make it look cool with an inlay on the hole...
Title: Re: Hippy - New Edit
Post by: Tiki on Sat 07/10/2006 19:59:15
Original:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/TikiTikiMan13/hippy-fullcolor.gif)
Edit:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/TikiTikiMan13/hippy-edit.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/TikiTikiMan13/hippy-edit.gif)

Thanks to everybody, particularly Tuomas, for the critiques/compliments.

Changes should be obvious.  However, a few things still bugging me:
- Both hands
- The jean fold Matt mentioned
- Shirt folds

Any more suggestions?
Title: Re: Hippy - New Edit
Post by: OuchMyTentacle79 on Sat 07/10/2006 21:15:29
maybe a bong next to him?
Title: Re: Hippy - New Edit
Post by: EagerMind on Sun 08/10/2006 02:48:34
A great looking sprite! To address some of your questions:

- His left hand seems to have a "floating" finger.
- I don't play guitar, but shouldn't his right hand be closed, with thumb and index finger extended to stroke the strings? Or is he plucking at them? I don't know, I could be totally off.
- I think his left upper arm is too short, especially if you compare it with his other upper arm. I think his elbow should come down almost to his lap, with his lower arm angling back up to the guitar.

I just found this (http://members.iinet.net.au/~pgt/startingtoplay.html) with some pictures of holding a guitar. Might be useful as a reference.
Title: Re: Hippy - New Edit
Post by: Tuomas on Sun 08/10/2006 17:28:14
That's one hellova way to play C6, but sounds pretty good imo. I think I'll compose a song on this, even though I know a lot of easier ways to play it... Or is the thumb pressing the F# as the bass note? I f so, then I give up. :)

I see you've done some improvement. THe only thing that bothers me is the left arm, maybe you should try moving the arm so that the armpit, or where the sleeve goes was closer to neck or so, one can always try...
Title: Re: Hippy - New Edit
Post by: OuchMyTentacle79 on Mon 09/10/2006 07:53:41
Look at Escobar's hands when he plays.Classical guitarists tend to never use guitar picks(they use all fingers for picking.)they spreite is amazing.Cheers
Title: Re: Hippy - New Edit
Post by: Tuomas on Mon 09/10/2006 11:35:29
Quote from: OuchMyTentacle79 on Mon 09/10/2006 07:53:41
Classical guitarists tend to never use guitar picks(they use all fingers for picking.)

True indeed, playing classical guitar with a pick is considered raping the guitar. At least in my opinion. *Even though* The guitar in question is a steel guitar most often played with a pick, thus the pick guard etc.
Title: Re: Hippy - New Edit
Post by: thewalrus on Mon 09/10/2006 15:59:48
     I really like your sprite a lot. I am a big George Harrison fan, and he does have some resemblance.....
Title: Re: Hippy - New Edit
Post by: alimpo83 on Mon 09/10/2006 21:48:20
This sprite is one of the coolest i've seen so far. If you manage to animate it as good as it looks, you've got a winner!  ;D
Title: Re: Hippy - New Edit
Post by: Tiki on Mon 09/10/2006 23:00:00
Thanks for the comments.  I've been trying to fix his left arm, but can't find a better position.  This sprite might be far enough along anyway - I don't want to spend too long on it.  More crits are certainly welcome, though.

As for the right hand, I play guitar myself.  It's fine for him to not use a pick.
Title: Re: Hippy - New Edit
Post by: on Sat 14/10/2006 01:14:33
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/erenan/RecitalFlyer9.jpg
Title: Re: Hippy - New Edit
Post by: Chicky on Sat 14/10/2006 01:41:28
excuse my pissed ranting.

Awesome sprite, maybe clean up a few pixels here and there. It depends what sort of bg style you're going for really.

and what ever happened to our project 'ey Tiki?