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Title: Ideas for a Background
Post by: steptoe on Tue 08/05/2012 16:08:42
Hi

I am creating a Mr Potato Head type game where he is hunting for sweets.

He Leaps up, Jumps over objects and does other moves to get them.

I have this very basic background and I am not sure how to have it.

Do you have any ideas for a style? Maybe contribute?

GUI's and other stuff are yet to be done.

Cheers

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x423/qikfire/POTATO_HEAD.png)
Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: Kastchey on Tue 08/05/2012 17:01:41
Something like Zool backgrounds, perhaps? The old Amiga platformer.

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/Kastchey/91011-zool-amiga-screenshot-sweet-world-switch-on-the-left-is-restart.png)   (http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/Kastchey/zool.jpg)
Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: on Tue 08/05/2012 20:57:39
The Zool backgrounds rock and the candy/toylanf theme is a good fit, but I think the screenshots are a bit too crowded. I'd go for muted colours or light pastel, maybe a skyline/cloud pattern like in Kastchey's second screenshot. If the idea is to catch moving things, they should stand out.
A light blue background with a simple cloud pattern as they used it in Toy Story comes to mind.
Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: steptoe on Tue 08/05/2012 22:01:36
Hi,

Thanks so far guys. I have come up with this based on comments so far.
Comments/help very welcomed.


Try and get all the sweets you can! Not always easy though!
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x423/qikfire/POTATO_HEAD2.png)


Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: CaptainD on Wed 09/05/2012 08:39:35
Nice work.  I too thought the Zool backgrounds were a little overpowering!!

I'm intrigued by this game... is it the world's first point and click platformer?
Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: steptoe on Wed 09/05/2012 08:55:52
Hi CaptainD,

Thanks for your comment  ;-D

Well, I don't know about it being  "The world's first ags point and click platformer."

I remember a Member creating a short demo platformer a while back, not sure if it went to full game.

In this game you can jump up to grab sweets, leap over objects, climb a ladder, use a rope and hook and much much more in your quest to devour all the sweets and finally meet the Sweet Monster!

I want to get Room 1 background done as best as I can before I move on. It's important that it has the kind of appeal that would be acceptable to most folks.

Updated image of Potato Head Jumping up:
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x423/qikfire/POTATO_HEAD3.png)

Keep em' coming... Ideas always welcomed.

Cheers

steptoe

Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: Hudders on Wed 09/05/2012 09:40:45
The bright pink GUI is not very pleasant to look at.
Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: steptoe on Wed 09/05/2012 09:54:53
Quote from: Hudders on Wed 09/05/2012 09:40:45
The bright pink GUI is not very pleasant to look at.

Color, look or both?

Any suggestions then Hudders?
Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: Kastchey on Wed 09/05/2012 12:45:16
Saturation, the color scheme is eye-hurting. GUI color scheme should match the main graphics, otherwise it will stand out too much.
Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: on Wed 09/05/2012 13:16:54
+1, the background is really nice now but the GUI clashes a lot. Pick a colour from the background and use it as a base for the GUI, maybe shiftig the tone a little. I think a pale blue or green would work well. If you want to emphasise the "border" between level and GUI, add a one-pixel line or a "bevel" in a darker hue; that should give you a nice working base:

(http://i.imgur.com/r5pbW.png)
Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: Hudders on Wed 09/05/2012 14:14:03
Quote from: steptoe on Wed 09/05/2012 09:54:53
Quote from: Hudders on Wed 09/05/2012 09:40:45
The bright pink GUI is not very pleasant to look at.

Color, look or both?

Any suggestions then Hudders?

The brightness is the main issue. If it were less... bright, it would be more palatable. Ghost's suggestion looks good too.
Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: steptoe on Wed 09/05/2012 14:23:06
I used sky/ a sweet color to make GUI's (top gui text is now white)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x423/qikfire/POTATO_HEAD4.png)

Thanks guys
Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: arj0n on Wed 09/05/2012 14:50:11
Maybe make all the candy (especially the ones in the clouds, these look bigger then those in the tree) a bit smaller, like max. 1/4th of the size of mr. potato head.
Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: Kastchey on Wed 09/05/2012 14:53:25
I would suggest two more things:
1. Desaturate non-interactive parts of the background, otherwise they might distract the player. It might also be worth trying to use a similar brush type for all background elements.
2. Perhaps use images of more common sweets as objects? I used a couple of random royalty-free images to show what I mean:

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/Kastchey/steptoe-mrpotato-bg.png)
Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: steptoe on Wed 09/05/2012 15:54:12
Thanks guys, I have taken all your comments on board  ;)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x423/qikfire/POTATO_HEAD5.png)

Thanks again
Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: Moresco on Fri 11/05/2012 02:15:54
For some reason when I see this it reminds me of Dizzy's Fantastic Adventure, etc...the various Dizzy games.  It's awesome, keep at it! I think if I had to give a critique it's the addition of shadows on the grass, whereas on platformers the side is usually just a sheer 2D clip.  Here you have the beginnings of some slightly 3D environment but the tree is flat against the surface like it's clipped off.  I hope what I'm saying makes sense, it just seems like you're trying to mesh the two types together and it looks strange.  Right now my biggest complaint is that you should either draw the tree and bush like they're not sitting on the top, or cut the shadows off and ditch the grass (or make it the very top layer of the side being grass, followed by dirt...or candy...).

Cheers.
Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: steptoe on Fri 11/05/2012 09:37:08
Hi  Moresco

I sort of know what you mean: The bush and tree do look 'flat' being level with the top of the grass.

I have decided to move the bush and the tree onto the grass. It does look a bit better I must admit.

The shadows would be 'seen' in the real world so I think they are essential. The player also tints in the shadows.

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x423/qikfire/POTATOHEAD_7.png)

Not sure what you mean by:

Quote
whereas on platformers the side is usually just a sheer 2D clip.

Thanks for your comments  ;)

cheers
Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: Moresco on Fri 11/05/2012 14:04:16
Yup, that's what I meant perfectly! Looks more cohesive now.
Title: Re: Ideas for a Background
Post by: steptoe on Sun 13/05/2012 17:17:36
Cheers

It's proberbly wasted on here   ;)