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Title: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Kaio on Sun 11/01/2009 00:43:39
I just got that cool painting pad for pc as a birthday-present and started messing around with it. I'll share my first steps of digital painting here with you all :D. It's not finished, but I thougt I might get some comments and critcs on it though, so I could change some things while finishing it:

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a147/kaio89/indy2.jpg)

It took maybe 3 hours of work... As I said, I'm a complete noob, I just got this pad unwrapped for a few hours. It's been done with photoshop, of course. What do you think?
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: monkey0506 on Sun 11/01/2009 16:38:12
I'd say for a complete n00b you're doing way better than I ever could! ;)

What you've completed thus far is a very good rendition of Harrison Ford as played by Indiana Jones.

The only critiquing I have is that the dirt smudge on his left (the right) cheek seems to stand out a lot...maybe you could soften that a bit. And also the hair directly beneath his lip seems less like chin hair and more like...a horrible disfiguring scab.

Other than that great work!
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Miez on Sun 11/01/2009 17:53:14
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Sun 11/01/2009 16:38:12
Harrison Ford as played by Indiana Jones.

Wait ... what? :)

Good work Kaioshin, I'm curious about the endproduct!
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens on Sun 11/01/2009 17:57:33
Keep going.  I really like your color usage and shading so far!
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Kaio on Sun 11/01/2009 19:09:35
thanks for the comments! I found a bit time to continue it this afternoon:

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a147/kaio89/indy-4.png)

He looked a bit fat...I tried to lenghten his chin a bit. And added the other eye of course.

Quote from: Miez on Sun 11/01/2009 17:53:14
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Sun 11/01/2009 16:38:12
Harrison Ford as played by Indiana Jones.

Wait ... what? :)


xD
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: monkey0506 on Mon 12/01/2009 06:07:46
Quote from: Miez on Sun 11/01/2009 17:53:14
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Sun 11/01/2009 16:38:12Harrison Ford as played by Indiana Jones.

Wait ... what? :)

Yes, and? :P

I still hold by what I said. ;D
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Kaio on Mon 12/01/2009 17:27:58
Another quick edit. I did alot detail-stuff, which isn't so noticeable on the first glance. I also found another source for the fedora, the Fate of Atlantis comic cover, which used the same photograph as I do.

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a147/kaio89/indywip.png)
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Nacho on Mon 12/01/2009 19:29:14
But Kaio, you must notice that the Fedora in that reference is completelly "miss-sized" (Is that a world, actually?) I hope you undertand what I mean... It' s way too big.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Kaio on Mon 12/01/2009 19:42:11
Hey Nacho, thanks for the advice. I'll try to find another reference for scale... But as a lighting reference, the comic cover might do it's job. It's a shame that the fedora is "cut-off" from the original photo  :P.

edit: just found something that should solve my problem :D
http://manicdote.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/indiana_jones_and_the_temple_of_doom_ver3.jpg

edit²: a quick update:
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a147/kaio89/indyg.png)
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Trihan on Mon 12/01/2009 21:45:18
If I squint a little bit I'd swear to god that's a photo, so you must be doing something right. Fantastic work! *seethes with jealousy*
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Uhfgood on Mon 12/01/2009 22:15:24
Looks great.  Also looks like you have your own style, as to be not exactly like the image, or the other poster art.  Would look great in a poster for one of these fan games.

Keith

ps.  What's your technique, I have a graphics tablet but haven't really used it for painting.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Kaio on Mon 12/01/2009 22:39:39
Thank you all for your encouraging words!

Quote from: Uhfgood on Mon 12/01/2009 22:15:24
Looks great.  Also looks like you have your own style, as to be not exactly like the image, or the other poster art.  Would look great in a poster for one of these fan games.

Keith

ps.  What's your technique, I have a graphics tablet but haven't really used it for painting.

Good thing, I'm already part of a Indiana Jones fangame and it's supposed to be used for a poster  :D. I don't realy know what my technique is, this is my very first attempt of using a graphics tablet so I just can't tell. I just take the pen and draw with photoshop... changin the colors and the brushes and the pressure of the pen on the tablet... I have no "secret" or something like that.^^

Kaio
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: monkey0506 on Tue 13/01/2009 05:23:39
kaio you're forcing me very rapidly to become of the opinion that the original source picture you're using is in fact the only picture ever taken of Harrison Ford (as depicted by Indy :P).

To me, the hair immediately below his lip still seems off...I think it's something about the harshness of the line between that and the rest of his beard. I see it clearly in the source picture, but in yours something just really draws my eye to it.

And seriously I'd love to see who you think is actually good at this considering you're such a n00b.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Kaio on Tue 13/01/2009 12:41:41
Okay, I'm almost finished, I guess. Maybe some finishing touches (like more stubbles) and the shirt collar.

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a147/kaio89/indyh.png)
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Galen on Tue 13/01/2009 12:46:24
His hat seems a little too far to the right but other then that it's fantastic.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Miez on Tue 13/01/2009 13:16:43
Quote from: Crazy on Tue 13/01/2009 12:46:24
His hat seems a little too far to the right but other then that it's fantastic.

Yep, I was about to say the same, but for the rest: awesome job!
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Kaio on Tue 13/01/2009 18:13:30
;) mhhh, I justed stayed at this picture:

(http://manicdote.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/indiana_jones_and_the_temple_of_doom_ver3.jpg)

His fedora seems to be a little bit too far on the right. Maybe I'll fix that ;).
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: LGM on Tue 13/01/2009 19:24:56
The bridge of his nose seems to be too wide, whereas his right eye seems to be too short. Swaparooski and see what that looks like. Or not. But this is really good stuff.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: GarageGothic on Tue 13/01/2009 21:11:22
This is a great piece of work, kaioshin. My only criticism would be that the indentation on the left side of the hat looks strange - sort of swirly shaped. The problem is to some degree also present in the poster that you're using for reference (and is - perhaps - in part an illusion due to the unclear light sources of the drawing). Though the very hard and highlighted bottom crease in your version makes it stand out more.

I think you'd be better off working from a real photo than the poster. Even if the light angle is different from your original reference, it gives a much a clearer impression of how simple the shape of the fedora really is. Keep in mind that the indentations (top crease and sides) aren't actually tailored, just pressed into shape. The hat itself is bowl shaped, the indentations appear where you naturally hold your fingers when you put it on:

(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_01/IndianaJones1L_468x663.jpg)

Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Matti on Tue 13/01/2009 21:44:59
Nice work, kaio. But I second what GarageGothic said about the hat. It looks weird on the poster and therefore it looks weird in your work.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Kaio on Tue 13/01/2009 21:46:55
thanks GarageGothic! Now you mention it, it realy looks kinda wierd. I'll try my best making it look better :).
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: on Wed 14/01/2009 10:18:13
Looks great. It's definitely Indy!

Which is good, because if it looked like Andrew Edmark I'd be most dissapointed.

:P
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Nacho on Wed 14/01/2009 10:38:38
On the other hand, you should change a bit the shape of his right eye (The "left" one, from our point of view). Compare it with the reference and see that your has more rounded shape. Indy looks younger. Do the test. Cover his right side of the face with a paper and look. He looks more like Shia Lebeouf. Do the same covering the left side. Harrison Ford now. Do the same guy in both sides of the face! :)
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: LGM on Wed 14/01/2009 16:48:04
If it looked like me it would only be an improvement!
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: radiowaves on Fri 16/01/2009 13:43:47
My two cents to the crit:

The beard hair seems a bit too smooth. You seem to follow the chinline a lot, making longer hair that is following the chinline. Mybe add a few straws sticking out.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: paolo on Fri 16/01/2009 14:44:49
I think you've got a little too much shading in his left eye. It makes it look as if it is further back in his head than it should be. Compare the photo and you'll see the shading here is not as dark as yours and the shaded area is not as wide.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Kaio on Tue 10/03/2009 10:17:04
Just wanted to let you know, that I fnished him the last few days:

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a147/kaio89/Indy-5.png)
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Jakerpot on Tue 10/03/2009 23:23:32
AWSOME!  :D i made a The Darkness fan art, well, it was almost good, but i'm a 13 years old boy  ;D It's pretty good!
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: cosmicr on Tue 10/03/2009 23:38:55
excellent work. how many hours all up?

I'd love to see a tutorial. have you done any other work?
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Kaio on Tue 10/03/2009 23:54:18
Thanks :).
Uhhhm, maybe 7-8 hours, but I realy didn't count. I had a 4 week-break since the last time I worked on this, which makes counting the hours even more difficult.
This is my first photoshop-art at all, so there's nothing else to show you. But I'll certainly do some stuff in the future, since this is work for a whole poster of the fangame I'm working on.
Maybe I'll do somekind of tutorial later, when I know more excactly what I'm doing xD. But I got the "history" of the pic on my pc, since I worked with different layers in photoshop. If enyone would like to see it, I could upload something like this.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: alex on Wed 11/03/2009 02:08:24
Impressive!

I wish I had a tablet - I've been looking at the Wacom Cintiq 12WX but it's too pricey right now...  Maybe down the line I could afford it.  What tablet did you use to make this pic? 

Anyway, back to the point, I think you've put some effort into this pic and it shows.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Kaio on Wed 11/03/2009 07:19:37
I use the Wacom Bamboo. It's said to be a beginners-pad, but I'm 100 % happy with it. It's also one of the cheapest, I think.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: alex on Wed 11/03/2009 10:56:10
The bamboo ?  Hm I would have overlooked that as a budget crap option but seeing what you have done here...  I am seriously reconsidering that perspective.  Thanks :)
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Layabout on Wed 11/03/2009 14:29:36
Nice pic. Really really quality. Looks 'painterly'. One crit, the ridge of the hat is off centre.

Don't dismiss the Bamboo, but if you do get one, I wouldn't recommend getting the really cheap vers. Get the Bamboo fun. It's more geared towards digital painting than the lower models.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: alex on Wed 11/03/2009 15:03:48
Thanks again forum :)

I had a slight issue with the hat too, but given all the hatty criticism already delivered and the fact the author said "I've finished" I kept it... well... under my hat...

*ba-bum-crash*
Title: Re: Indiana Jones Photoshop work
Post by: Uhfgood on Wed 11/03/2009 18:50:33
Nice