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Title: Indy 3 style
Post by: Vel on Fri 13/06/2003 12:24:58
Im almost done with this background, but Ive got several problems:
1) I cant make the temple wall.
2) I cant make the flower less-realistic
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Temple.gif)
If someone can help me, he's welcome.
EDIT: Since my backgrounds look more like indy 3, Ill use this style
Title: Re:FOA help
Post by: Renal Shutdown on Fri 13/06/2003 13:55:02
Hey

For the flower..
I'd suggest using the draw tool (or similar one pixel wide brush, depending on what you use) and on a second layer, trace the out of the flower, petals and stem.. no need to be to precise.
Secondly color this second layer in with pink for flower, green for stalk - just the two colors.
Then on a third layer (i like layers, they're not essential.. just easier)..  third layer, using a slightly lighter color than the previous pink/green, draw in the larger gaps on color, avoiding edges.

+ - - - - - - - +
|..................|
|......(b).......|
|..................|
|...#####...| <---- (a)
|...##(c)# ...|
|...#####...|
|..................|
+ - - - - - - - +

a. should be the out line, dark color.
b. should be the medium color block.
c. should be the bright, highlighted section.

Obviously, it's not square, this is just a bad example of what i mean.  Hopefully, you get the jist.

Hugs
Iqu
Title: Re:FOA help
Post by: Vel on Sat 14/06/2003 13:51:39
I updated the image a bit, but it still doesnt seem right.
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Temple2.gif)
Title: Re:FOA help
Post by: Vel on Sun 15/06/2003 08:05:39
I updated it again, but I can paint the wall. Can anyone help?
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Temple3.gif)
Title: Re:FOA help
Post by: Miez on Sun 15/06/2003 10:40:18
Why don't you pick up the colours of the existing wall (wit an eyedropper tool) and trace over the scanned wall?
Title: Re:FOA help
Post by: Vel on Sun 15/06/2003 11:04:24
What wall? You mean the one abouve the flower?

EDIT: I tried. It doesnt seem right.
Title: Re:FOA help
Post by: Neole on Sun 15/06/2003 11:47:22
Try using the watercolor filter in photoshop on the whole painting and then putting the modifications on top. That should remove the photorealism.
Title: Re:FOA help
Post by: Vel on Sun 15/06/2003 12:00:46
Can someone else do that, 'cause I dont have photoshop?
Title: Re:FOA help
Post by: Neole on Sun 15/06/2003 12:21:34
I used watercolor then smudged it with the smudge tool than used watercolor again. Looks messy now.

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Temple.jpg)
Title: Re:FOA help
Post by: Vel on Sun 15/06/2003 12:24:27
sorry neole, but Im after FOA style
Title: Re:FOA help
Post by: Neole on Sun 15/06/2003 12:27:34
Then Miez is the right guy for advise, not me!
Title: Re:FOA help
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Sun 15/06/2003 12:37:10
if you're after FOA style, i suggest doing a lot of it pixel by pixel ;)
Title: Re:FOA help
Post by: Vel on Sun 15/06/2003 13:04:36
Thats what i did... so far. But I cant paint the wall
Title: Re:FOA help
Post by: Vel on Sun 15/06/2003 13:56:16
At last!
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Temple4.gif)
Title: Re:Indy 3 style
Post by: makri on Sun 15/06/2003 14:08:58
I would just skip the flower. No matter how right you get it, it doesn't look right.
Title: Re:Indy 3 style
Post by: Vel on Sun 15/06/2003 14:10:24
I havent modified the flower a bit since my first post. Im waiting Iqu to do a tutorial.
Title: Re:Indy 3 style
Post by: Renal Shutdown on Sun 15/06/2003 15:24:11
Hey

Here follows my incompetent bodging of a perfectly good tutorial..

Original Image..
(http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://lumpcity.fateback.com/stuff/vel/flower01.png)

Using layers, block color the parts of the flowers.
(http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://lumpcity.fateback.com/stuff/vel/flower02.png)

Using a darker color, shade in the darkest parts.
(http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://lumpcity.fateback.com/stuff/vel/flower03.png)

Using a color in between the last two, blend in the shades.
(http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://lumpcity.fateback.com/stuff/vel/flower04.png)

Then using a lighter color, add some highlights to it.
(http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://lumpcity.fateback.com/stuff/vel/flower05.png)

Then using the brush (5x5 pixels), with a low density setting paint over the flower with a darker color.. This should add some texture to it.  Set opacity to less than 100.
(http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://lumpcity.fateback.com/stuff/vel/flower06.png)

It should come out looking like a kinda hand painted thing.
(http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://lumpcity.fateback.com/stuff/vel/flower07.png)

Hugs
Iqu

Um..  on reading thru your recent posts, I'm not a 100% that it's Indy-esque, but it doesn't look photo-realistic anymore..  which is what you asked me.

You can also zoom in and fiddle individual pixels you think look wrong far easier than a photo.

Also, for some reason the enlarged version look anti aliased.  They shouldn't.  It should also only have 5 colors for the flower and 5 for the leaves..

It looked better while I was doing it.  Sorry for the inconvenience.
Title: Re:Indy 3 style
Post by: Xadhoom on Sun 15/06/2003 17:50:22
Looks good so far.
About the flower, how about just painting it out of the picture? You could replace it with a bush or something.
Title: Re:Indy 3 style
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Sun 15/06/2003 18:16:53
vel, could you post it without the gradient, i wanna try somit
Title: Re:Indy 3 style
Post by: Vel on Sun 15/06/2003 18:31:32
nevermind
Title: Re:Indy 3 style
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Sun 15/06/2003 18:57:50
nope, sorry meant this : (http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Temple4.gif) before you put the gradient on the bricks
Title: Re:Indy 3 style
Post by: Vel on Sun 15/06/2003 18:58:58
Its in the posts.
Title: Re:Indy 3 style
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Sun 15/06/2003 19:02:25
hmmm i really want the state between

http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Temple3.gif

and

http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Temple4.gif

the original photo background gone, but replaced with one colour rather than a gradient :|
Title: Re:Indy 3 style
Post by: Vel on Sun 15/06/2003 19:07:45
Sorry. I havent saved it this way. You can try painting it yourself, though. I used  the magic wand tool in PSP and painted the whole wall in 10 minutes