(I'm a dumbass who forgot to mention this was a paintover and got shot down for this. Any mod, please lock this thread)
You mean it's the first time you did a (not so good) paintover without mentioning it and try to get away with it?
(http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/5835/akatoshzj9.gif)
There's nothing to get away with... I don't care if people use those sprites...
Look at both those sprites together, Akatosh... See how little detail there is in the shirt and pants? Shadows generally appear in between the legs and under the arms. Check yourself in a mirror and compare.
besides the legs the outlines on the image on the left and the one on the right look to be exactly the same down to the last pixel
I didn't mention it's a paintover? (goes looking)
Oh, yes. Hehe :-[
Sorry, I wanted to mention that. And it's not "the same down to the last pixel" - I've changed some detail.
O.O
Akatosh
You are the weakest link. Goodbye.
Quote from: KhrisMUC on Wed 03/01/2007 19:42:56
You mean it's the first time you did a (not so good) paintover without mentioning it and try to get away with it?
Quote from: Da_Elf on Wed 03/01/2007 20:42:32
besides the legs the outlines on the image on the left and the one on the right look to be exactly the same down to the last pixel
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Fri 05/01/2007 00:32:23
You are the weakest link. Goodbye.
Awww, give the guy a break. He's drawing his first ever pixel art human. He uses some reference (pretty closely) and ends up with something that's recognizably ANOTHER SPRITE IN A FREE AGS GAME. Well whoopy fook! Who gives a crap really? I can only assume Mr Colossal is who originally drawn that sprite, and he doesn't seem to care.
After all, it's not like he's cost the original author any money or anything, or being applauded across the internet for his daring and original work of art, leaving the original artist bitterly missing the limelight he so clearly deserves.
It's not even like the end result even closely resembles the reference unless you're comparing outline pixels! In a community that seems completely comfortable with using trademark licences that are, to this day, important and highly profitable intellectual property of big corporations that would cease and desist in a millisecond if it suited them, should it really matter? Is this a community of people trying venomously to protect their intellectual property, or a community of like-minded amateurs and professionals who love adventure games and either play, make, or long to make adventure games?
I'd be flattered that someone used MY sprite as reference for their first ever character. Cheers for thinking my sprite was somehow the yardstick that you should measure yourself by!
Besides. He's NOT the same character. He has a hat! ;)
Furthermore, in the Colouring Balls, is the person who draws the original outline the person who's "drawn" all the entries? Not really. Sure the guy has a lot to learn, but surely giving him pointers on how to draw guys without the need of using other sprites as reference is a more constructive critisism than quoting crap quiz shows???
Just my 2$ worth.
And for the record, I can't speak for Binky, but I'm sure he'll agree, if you want to use any of our sprites as a starting off point, then all the power to you!
Fair play to Mr. Colossal for the only genuinely useful feedback to Akatosh's post.
dismount high horse
> I do not understand the term 'high horse'.
There have been (and probably always will be) some notorious lamers who tried to cheat in sprite jams by using other people's sprites, graphics from video games or even resized photos or m$ clipart.
But: by no means was it my intention to put Akatosh on the same level, I just found it strange that he "forgot" to mention it's a paintover, especially because the text of his post emphasized the idea that the sprite was solely his work.
I actually know very well that MrColossal released the sprites for everybody's use, but that hasn't really anything to do with the unwritten rule that one should always state it if one's work was based on someone else's.
Well fair enough, credit where credit is due, and perhaps that's an important lesson for Akatosh to learn. Just seemed to me like a starry eyed newbie sprite artist getting shot down unneccessarily harshly for what is essentially quite a different image to what he started with, outline aside, but I see your point :D
EDIT: Ah. I say that, but then according to his profile he *has* actually released more games than me by a factor of infinity :D
EDIT x 2: Oooohh I've just realized from your sig, it's you! --> http://www.adventuretreff.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9537&start=30&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=&sid=2e279a07a9fb461d51d970604754fa7e
Forget I said anything. You rule! ;) :D
I know that sounds strange, but I really, really forgot to mention it. I've learned an important lesson, though - I'll never ever post anything in the Critics Lounge again ;D Just kidding.
I'll edit the first post and ask a mod to lock this thread. Thanks to those who didn't want to shoot me down and a terrible painful death for the rest of you ;)
What!?!! YOU PUT YOUR SPRITE BACK UP NOW!!!!!
That's an order!
Don't be discouraged to post in Critic's lounge again, at least. Many people have had their work improved immensely through this section. I'm one of them!
Probably when I've worked on it a bit and everyone calmed down again.