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Title: Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: tamper on Sun 05/10/2003 23:36:12
Hi,

I thought I may be able to get a critique of this image - my first attempt at aiming for the Lucasarts MI / DOTT / Sam & Max kind of style.

Ultimately some of the items would be objects (rather than part of the background image), but I thought it would look better for now to put them into the scene.

Here's the pic:

(http://www.bigtrak.com/images/diner5.jpg)

and if you want to see a bigger one, it's here:
http://www.bigtrak.com/images/diner6.jpg

BTW - it's supposed to be a scrolling screen.

What do you guys think?

Cheers,
t

 
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: on Mon 06/10/2003 01:09:05
I love the art style, it looks really fresh and original, yet a great 50's-like diner welcome feel to it.

The bubblegum machine's shadow is odd.. (or is it the very back stool on the bar that has odd lighting?) Should it be there like that? The door has an interesting shadow to it.. Also the shadow behind the balloon and teddy bear.. Is there a light coming from the user's view? if so, wouldn't you see a shadow behind the big chairs you sit on.. Just the lightning is really wishy washy, probably pretty minor but it kinda distracts me when looking at the scene.
Hope my criticism help :)
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: Joseph DiPerla on Mon 06/10/2003 01:16:45
****Joey drools soo much that he fills his entire house of saliva and has  to swim out****

Good god! That is an awesome drawing. I am so envious. Great Job Really. Congrats and keep up the good work.
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: Evil on Mon 06/10/2003 01:39:38
Man, I have been trying to draw like that ever since I joined here. You have got a lot of talent, use it wisely.
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: Haddas on Mon 06/10/2003 12:35:03
'Tis a holy gift you have there, me lad. Don't waste it on booze like I did. Now I'm just an old pirate waiting for that kid to bring me back some polish for me peg-leg. Wannabe pirates, bah!
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: Morgan on Mon 06/10/2003 17:01:04
Is the door in the back a unisex bathroom? It looks like one with the people above it. Anyway, I think its great. The only thing I notice is that the chairs are really close to the counter. How are you going to sit down?
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: Scummbuddy on Mon 06/10/2003 17:40:11
Sometimes diners will use unisex bathrooms, but I think in this case, its just the door to the other doors for the individual bathrooms. Either way, it gets the point across that its a bathroom.  

This is fantastic work.
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: Kweepa on Mon 06/10/2003 17:50:54
I love it - when's the game coming out?
The only things I'd change would be the font on the EXIT sign, and maybe make the floor tiles smaller and less wonky.
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: tamper on Mon 06/10/2003 23:50:29
Thanks for all the comments  - I've made some revisions based on some of the suggestions.

New image here:

(http://www.bigtrak.com/images/diner7.jpg)

and bigger image at http://www.bigtrak.com/images/diner8.jpg

Basically I straighted the floor a bit, tidied up the shadow on the gumball machine, replaced the poster (much better this time), and extended the tiled area where the stools are. You were right Morgan - it would be hard to sit at the counter!

SteveMcCrea - no game for a while I'm afraid, this is more of a proof-of-concept for the art style...
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: Erwin_Br on Tue 07/10/2003 00:06:33
Wow, I really dig that style! DOTT has been an inspiration for my own artwork too.

The detail in your picture is great, it makes the image very interesting to look at.

Incidentally I have also drawn a diner once, which has been on these forums too. Maybe nice to compare our styles:

(http://members1.chello.nl/~w.broekhuis01/badtiming/ss-08-big.png)

--Erwin
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: Las Naranjas on Tue 07/10/2003 04:48:00
Quote from: Xackery on Mon 06/10/2003 01:09:05
I love the art style, it looks really fresh and original,

I'm just wondering, taking into account he stated he's trying to emulate an existing style, whether this is a compliment or not ;)
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: on Tue 07/10/2003 05:16:39
Hehe.. Since I don't know a game offhand with the style he's trying to emulate, I'm taking his picture as is.. and to me it's original... Even if it is based off something else. :)
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: tamper on Tue 07/10/2003 12:02:53
Great image Erwin_Br!

I hadn't seen your stuff previously, but it's interesting how many elements we have in common -  the stools, the jukebox, the floor etc. - but I guess most peoples visions of a diner are similar.

Looking forward to seeing your game.

t
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: on Tue 07/10/2003 16:30:43
Nice...very DOTT like and it reminds me of Proskrito's background:

(http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://usuarios.lycos.es/golfapagina/otros/biblioreprosombra2.png)

The only weird thing is the shadow on the bar, it makes the bar seem like it's floating a little...

You have talent so hang on to it, well done Tamper, here is your white thing for your efforts:(http://www.spike-domain.net/fcwaonline/modules/Forums/images/smiles/happy.gif)
Infact, you can have a crazy one too:(http://www.spike-domain.net/fcwaonline/modules/Forums/images/smiles/shocked.gif)
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: Joelman on Mon 24/11/2003 22:44:56
Nice! you guys ever think about doing a tutorial for drawing in lucasarts style? I know there are a lot of people that would like to emulate it, and you seem to know what you're doing. Think about it, ok? awesome backgrounds you guys, keep up the good work. Also, what game is that for? i'd be interested in playing it when its completed.
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: Evil on Mon 24/11/2003 22:52:28
Why did you bring up an old thread? I understand that you really like his art, as do I. But did you really need to bring up a two month old thread to say so? He probably wont even read it. Please use pms next time.
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: MrColossal on Mon 24/11/2003 23:23:07
why are you such a jerk, evil? is there a rule that he can't do this?

and he asked a question, he didn't just reply with an eye bugging emoticon...
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: Evil on Mon 24/11/2003 23:27:40
I'm sorry if I was a 'jerk'. I just thought it would be in our best intrest to use some pms. Its been forty days since anyone had postedin this thread and I doubted he would get his question. The question was sort of directed tward him, wasn't it?
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: Squinky on Tue 25/11/2003 05:39:59
Damn. I never saw this thread before, and I gotta say that theres some inspiring stuff going on....
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: earlwood on Tue 25/11/2003 05:44:46
 :o This is awesome, I am never able to create something of such high caliber of neat..and for that I both envy and loathe you two.

Woah, this is old!
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: tamper on Tue 25/11/2003 17:19:14
Well just to put this to rest, I'll reply! After all I had the email notification thing turned on, so I was alerted to the new post in the thread.

Thanks for the comments Joelman, and I'm sure Erwin and Proskrito will also be grateful.

I'm not sure I'm really enough of an authority on the style to do a tutorial, but I'd be interested to know whether anyone else is creating backgrounds as vector artwork before converting to bitmap...

t
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: ThunderStorm on Tue 25/11/2003 20:24:41
You guys make me all confused.
Whenever I see a background like this one, I go "Seriously, I'll practice doing vector graphics." and whenever I see one of miez's backgrounds, I go "Seriously, I'll practice drawing lo-res graphics."

Anyways, tutorials - keep 'em coming! :D

By the way - did you use Flash to create this beautiful backbround?
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: tamper on Tue 25/11/2003 20:42:21
I actually use CorelDraw 11 which I think is ideal for this kind of work (and many other things too).

Maybe I will get around to doing a tutorial, of only to fly the flag for CorelDraw, which isn't all that popular yet I think is far better than Illustrator or Freehand...
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: Joelman on Tue 25/11/2003 20:58:46
hey all,
sorry to bring up an old thread, but dude, this is awesome! lol I made a point not to reply to any old threads, but this is by far the best Lucas-Arts style BG I have seen, I couldn't just let this slip into the gorge of eternal peril we call the recycle bin.
and evil, I see what you meant about the PM thing, hadn't noticed that before, I'll keep that in mind next time, thanks.
oh hey, Corel Draw. Yes! Rock! ;D
Joelman
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: Pau on Tue 25/11/2003 23:46:10
Quote from: tamper on Tue 25/11/2003 17:19:14
I'd be interested to know whether anyone else is creating backgrounds as vector artwork before converting to bitmap...

I use Moho. It has a lot of facilities for animations (it's main goal) but it's also good for drawing. See their gallery at their web: http://www.lostmarble.com (http://www.lostmarble.com)



Pau
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: jannar85 on Sun 30/11/2003 17:12:44
This is called a masterpiece. Reminds me a lot of Disney.
You need to make a game, tamp! ;D
Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: tamper on Mon 01/12/2003 08:54:55
You're too kind, jannar85! *blush*

I may be jinxing myself here, but I'll bite the bullet and say that I'm actually working on a tutorial for this style. It's actually based on this image because, er... it's the only one I've done.

It will be announced in the Tutorials sticky when ready

t

Title: Re:Lucasarts-style diner
Post by: Erwin_Br on Mon 01/12/2003 10:20:23
Quote from: tamper on Mon 01/12/2003 08:54:55
You're too kind, jannar85! *blush*

I may be jinxing myself here, but I'll bite the bullet and say that I'm actually working on a tutorial for this style. It's actually based on this image because, er... it's the only one I've done.

It will be announced in the Tutorials sticky when ready

t



Looking forward very much!  :D

--Erwin