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looks great!
though i think grandpa stinky's name should rhyme with fred and ed, to keep with the family. maybe grandpa ned or something?
i'll be honest i had my doubts about the supposed quality (and even existence) of yr project, but hey, this looks like it could be Maniac Mansion Deluxe Deluxe (as in with cool additions!)
good luck!
Thank you Heres a few more Also you will find out why is called stinky in the game.
// Weird Terry Edison
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/Terry.jpg)
// Front of the Mansion
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/FrontHousesample.jpg)
@Rubacant
The screens don't really look good. You just ripped off the original graphics, changed some of them and threw them together. As far as I see the furnituure is all copied from the mansion, nothing creative in particular.
The rooms doesnt fit to the style of the original mansion. Seams like you never saw a real mansion from the inside.
It doesnt have anything of the ambient of a real mansion.
The backgrounds look like they were done by a blind man.
Quote from: Hammerite on Sun 19/11/2006 19:56:21
this looks like it could be Maniac Mansion Deluxe Deluxe (as in with cool additions!)
You cant be serious :o
Maniac Mansion Deluxe is called Deluxe, because the original game was improved. I dont see any improvement in his screens.
There is constructive crit and then there is blatantly insulting crit. Mould Cheeze, you fail at constructive crit.
Please, don't be a jerk. Offer crit and ways to improve the art not insults.
Think about Maniac Mansion Mania. That's a project that actually lives from people reusing the same graphics over and over again in order to "keep a style" and have some templates. I can live with rerun graphics as long as the game's worthwhile.
Rubacant, I don't think that are bad screens. They look okay, nothing I would print out and use as a wallpaper, but easy on the eye and comfortably familiar. So keep it going :)
You should really consider to keep the family tradition of "-ed" names ;) I think that was done in DOTT, to? So Jed, Ped, er... Colette would do nice. Stinky just doesn't fit in.
Two times, you present us with two sides of a location- does that mean you're going to allow "turning around" in rooms?
Any way its not the old game. New story and plot. Ahhh Lots of new stuff.
I was makeing this for the veteran maniac mansion players that can beat the Frist maniac mansion very easy.
I want to do the Old MM style and not DOTT
Im going to look in to new names any ideas
at first, sorry, i didnt want to insult rubacant
QuoteThink about Maniac Mansion Mania. That's a project that actually lives from people reusing the same graphics over and over again in order to "keep a style" and have some templates.
It the same as here, the developers of MMM also use the furniture of original MM instead of creating their own ones. Thats not very creative.
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I want to do the Old MM style and not DOTT
I didnt want you to make the game in Dott style. What i meant was that the Maniac Mansion style is so easy to rebuild that you dont have to rip furniture from original MM. Dott style is much more difficult to rebuild.
So here are my tipps how to improve:
- make your own furniture
- make complete walk-cycles for your chars not just 2 views for each.
- visit a real mansion to get some inspiration
- play maniac mansion again and feel the atmsophere and attach it to your background. your present bgs doesnt have that atmosphere
They have more then two veiws Thats just a sample
any the pics kinda look bad cuz there not in the game and you cant see the wall texture to well.
Then why dont you post one of your bgs in full size??
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/Backhall1A-1.jpg)
Ok, then i can dissect your background ;D
this is how you could improve your background:
-Dont use texture for the walls. Use gradients. Look at Lucasfan's Deluxe screens he used gradients.
-the left and the middle doors dont have gradients, they are "plain style". look at the right door, there is a gradient. also attach gradients like this to the other doors.
-whats that black points on the floor, some kind of ash or soil?
-Terry chin is in an right angle, this look a bit strange
The dots are mold
Ed has the same type of chin
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/Edhead.jpg)
How do you do gradients with paint shop pro
I kinda like the wood texture i used
Any way Edisons Look weird any way
Quote from: Rubacant on Sun 19/11/2006 22:37:17
How do you do gradients with paint shop pro
(http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/3407/pspxp5.png)
Like this. Any way you should edit the gradient afterwards with an antique mosaique.
Quote from: Rubacant on Sun 19/11/2006 22:37:17
I kinda like the wood texture i used
Well, it doesnt really look like wood. maybe you should draw some wooden bars. If your walls are really made of wood, the tree had to be around 20 meters of Perimeter ;D
Quote from: Rubacant on Sun 19/11/2006 22:37:17
Any way Edisons Look weird any way
Ok, youre right. I turn a blind eye ;)
edit: you used lucasfan-style backgrounds and your-own-style backgrounds . that doesnt fit together. decide for ONE style.
Is this bad to
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/BackRoom2StairsT.jpg)
Dose it look to busy
I use gradient and made the same wood texture lol
anyway the gradient looks more like wall paper
and if all the rooms looked the same it would be very boring
like in a real house one wall could be wood, bath room could be tile and living room wall paper
Quote from: Rubacant
Dose it look to busy
In one word: YES!!!
The floor is very strangely lightened. The right picture doesnt have an outline. The statue is "in the wall".
And some other details which i am not likely to count them all because its too much.
AnyWay this is MANIAC MANSION dose it have to look normal.
Quote from: Rubacant on Sun 19/11/2006 23:26:20
AnyWay this is MANIAC MANSION dose it have to look normal.
You call this maniac mansion? This is a shame for maniac mansion. If Ron Gilbert would have seen this he would have jumped out of the window.
The old MM looks weird but it doesnt look crappy. thats a difference.
Will you stop being an asshole?
Thank you.
Quote from: ManicMatt on Sun 19/11/2006 23:33:56
Will you stop being an asshole?
Thank you.
Lol, what the fuck?! Ok, i was bad to him in my first post.
But then I tried to help him but he still legitimates his bad-looking backgrounds. There is a great difference between "maniac" and "shit".
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AGS forums NOOB
Ok, I'm new to AGS forums. But i know more about AGS than you. When i look at you posts, i found out that you dont even now what an integer is.
That is so ridicolous ;D
how do you want to make a game without an integer?
Quote from: Mould Cheeze on Sun 19/11/2006 23:21:43
Quote from: Rubacant
Dose it look to busy
In one word: YES!!!
The floor is very strangely lightened.???? Ever heard of a texterd rug The right picture doesnt have an outline so dose your brain. The statue is "in the wall" and up your ass.
And some other details which i am not likely to count them all because its too much what like your acting like your 10.
Quotewhat your acting like your 10
In the posts you quoted I just gave my critics. What has this to do about my age.
I mean why did you post your pics in critics lounge if you dont want critics? Maybe you are some kind of multiple personality ???
People who manage to turn troll on the first day they regis...Oh, I can't be bothered.
Ten pointless posts. Well done.
Ok mabey i will stop this maniac mansion game what do you think
Based on one person's opinion?
Keep at it.
Although he was/is rough on you, do take some of what he said as advice and use it.
Enough.
1. People who are not moderators need to stop pretending they are. This is the critics lounge, not the 'I think I'll make an observation about this person's post' lounge. You do nothing but fuel flames and further take the thread off-topic. Stop it.
2. If you cannot provide constructive criticism, do not post here at all. I find insulting someone else's work unacceptable and from now on I will remove such posts without warning. Before you post a single line think for a moment how you would react to such a statement if it were your work. Thank you.
As for the images, some of the backgrounds look quite good. I would recommend using flat gradients rather than glossy textures. The mansion is strange, yes, but you don't want people's eyes floating to the walls when they should be playing your game. Keep at it!
Quote from: Rubacant on Mon 20/11/2006 00:03:58
Ok mabey i will stop this maniac mansion game what do you think
Its your decision.
I just say: Improving your backgounds will take a couple of days. But scripting a bug-free game that is longer than maniac mansion will take you over a year.
Its going to be a two year project could be longer
Ok, then you can internalize my tipps on how to improve your backgrounds for those two years.
Wish you have enough motivation and stamina to make it better.
is this any better
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/BackRoom2StairsT.jpg)
Look at this!! This looks like a textured back ground
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/Galerieflur.jpg)
Quote from: Rubacant on Mon 20/11/2006 01:25:44
is this any better
I see no difference. The floor still looks.wird. The picture still has no outline. And the statue's position is still impossible.
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Look at this!! This looks like a textured back ground
Its not textured,its tiled.This is a difference.
Im tired now. I go to bed.
What picture i took it out
I like your backgrounds Rubacant, good work.
As for the last one...
The floor looks fine to me. I dont find it a problem. The wall goes to sharply and fastly from dark to light. Try to go from the dark color to a slightly less dark color for the bottom part of that wall. The statue is also fine to me. The base of the staircase is too close to the wall to be realistic, you might want to try to pull it out 5 or so pixels. Just a thought.
The wall on the right apears to have no perspective because of the window. Try to draw it like...
(http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/7564/windowxv3.png) (http://imageshack.us)
Thats about all I see there.
Edit: None of that was necessary. Please read my above post again.
-ProgZ
Oh, and the texturing and tiling is basically the same thing, the tiles are made of a texture.
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What do you think of the wall texture
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/UpStairs2R.jpg)
Do you think the texture is to glossy
Just two minor things that I noticed for the second back hall view (the turned around one).
-There are no skirting boards on the side walls.
-There is no 'corner line' on the left hand corner.
Other than that, looking great. Keep up the good work. :)
I put my answer from the Adventure-Treff-forums in this forums:
I must disagree with the others. The screens are really nice. But I don't think that this game will be better as the original. First: I'm worried about the matter that you don't take the advices of the other users seriously. So I believe that there would be a lot of bugs in your game as long you don't care the advices of the others. And second: I don't like the idea about a modification of Maniac Mansion. I love the original game and I don't want to play a game, which have new rooms and places, but could destroy the atmosphere of the old game. Maniac Mansion Deluxe is an exception, because it has only better graphics and sound-effects. But it has the same brilliant storyline and atmosphere as the original.
I hope that you change your mind and stop this project. You would make fun of yourself only.
QuoteThink about Maniac Mansion Mania. That's a project that actually lives from people reusing the same graphics over and over again in order to "keep a style" and have some templates.
Quote from: Mould CheezeIt the same as here, the developers of MMM also use the furniture of original MM instead of creating their own ones. Thats not very creative.
That doesn't happen everytime in this project. Some authors of Maniac Mansion Mania use their own graphics without any objects of Maniac Mansion.
This pic:
Quote from: Rubacant on Mon 20/11/2006 01:32:22
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/Galerieflur.jpg)
Is cool. Okay, not mind-blowingly cool, but cool none-the-less. The most important thing in any game's art is
consistency. If you can maintain the above quality of art throughout your game, then it'll end up looking pretty damn funky.
Regardless of quality, a game with consistent art binds together and
feels like a quality game even if the screens independently are not that brilliant.
So I say, keep it up and good luck! :D
Cap'n Binky
Quote from: Mould Cheeze link=topic=29131.msg370938#msg370938This is a screen from Maniac Mansion Deluxe
Is it? Whoops! Well in any case, that pic isn't massively better than the other stuff so I still stand by what I said.
@rubacant Ok, here is some critics. I took one of your pictures as an example
Red sourended areas are thing that shouldnt mould, neither metal nor glas moulds.
Purple Areas are things that should mould.The plants wouldnt resist the mould. The wooden table and the picture wouldnt either.
Red arrow shows how mould could look like, its not perfect because i dont want to take over your work. but better than those arbitrary spreaded dots.
Blue arrow shows the black line which is the corner of the room. where is that black line on the left side?
Green arrow shows the toeboard. The toeboard should also be on the side walls.
Blue surrounded area shows wooden bars. Dont just use a wood texture. Noone will notice that this is wood. But if you still want to use wooden texture the texture on the side walls would be diagonal and not as even as on the back wall.
(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1037/image2fu2.png)
Edit: If you improved your Background , please post it here to show that you are able of taking critism.
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No no, the mold is all wrong, as is the paneling. I dont think what this room needs is paneling. And the mold is too much for the whole room. Put bits of mold on the ceiling, and in the corners but not EVERYWHERE.
I think it looks better with paneling now I think its anuff mold for a room but too much mold for a pice of cheese
Just my opinion my friend, it just looks like a boxcar to me with the panels...
Some say i need panels some say i dont WHERES THE DRUGS im going CRAZY
I still don't get what all that weird disortion is doing there... Am I the only one seeing that?
yeh what is that?
You two mean the "mould", I think.
Funny that you've got a person called "mould cheese" advising on how to draw decent mould.
The dots everywhere = mould. Clear?
This just goes to show that people can't tell what it is, I do declare that Mould's mould would be better to use. When they tell you how..
nothing is THAT mouldy!
still, practice is perfect.
:)
It looks good in game
How many people does it take to persuade you that the mould is too much? We don't need to see it in game, we can zoom into the picture using paint, at the in-game resolution and see that it is too much.
(http://cdn.tripadvisor.com/Images-g186262-d256025-b1285439S-Mouldy_wall-Quality_Hotel_Bournemouth-Bournemouth_Dorset_England.jpg)
Here is a mouldy wall. It's subtle colours, where as yours are dark dots scattered everywhere covering all of the wall. At least space it out a bit so it's not all over the place.
All the screenshots you have produced are great but I have to agree with the mould issue though.
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OTHERS
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/UpStairs1.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/NewDungen1.jpg)
why are you posting pics that are almost the same as the actuall backgrounds from MM delux? :-\
well there modfied Pics. The new mansion is going to have some of the same rooms
See each room will have 2 backgrounds. One background for each side of the room.
The Mansion will be Rebuilt
Like the dungen will not have the lab door
The mould: Alright! Finally! Now THAT'S mould! Well done. Nice to know some good has come from this thread, after four pages..
Not sure if the MM deluxe people mind you taking their backgrounds. At least credit them in the credits. If this was talked about already, well I can't remember.
Taking there backgrounds???? Well maniac mansion mania use them
And there really rips from the real game
http://www.tentakelvilla.de/mm/maniac-3.jpg
http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/screenshots/full/maniac_mansion_06.gif
http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/screenshots/full/maniac_mansion_04.gif
and so on
I'm getting an error for the second two links and the first one I don't even know where you're saying that is from...
I'm sure that MMM credits the game.
Cheese where are you
try PMing them, Rubacant. You'll get a faster response that way and you won't be bumping a thread.