New image, first proper digital painting!

Chicky · Sun 03/12/2006 22:46:00

New image:

Hair WIP, crit please!

Squinky · Sun 03/12/2006 23:12:05

Shes' missing her legs and her hand!!1

I like it, and I am no pro but here is how I would attack it, problem wise.

Her chin is maybe a bit too small, and her neck should get thicker towards the shoulders, not how it is now.

The spinal line you drew isn't aligned with the neck.

I don't know what the reference girl looked like, but she seems to be lacking womanly contours on the front part of her body, if that makes sense.

Thats just my humble advice.

Evil · Mon 04/12/2006 00:21:20

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/evil1359/chicky_gal.jpg

Her stomach was wide and her cheeks were uneven, though mine aren't so great either.Ã,Â The head was very strangely angled. Too far left and flat. Without a reference it's hard to redraw it. The arms and shoulders are technically correct though oddly angled. No hands doesn't help either.

Was this a Suicide Girls photo?

Chicky · Mon 04/12/2006 22:25:49

Yea it is a sucidegirl mate, i just cant remember which one from the hundreds in my collection

Evil · Tue 05/12/2006 05:56:25

I've looked at many, many photos of Suicide Girls...

For reference, of course.

Erwin_Br · Tue 05/12/2006 15:57:04

Obviously.

--Erwin

Andail · Tue 05/12/2006 20:27:49

Hm...Evil...is it a teenage boy's back we're looking at? That's the most shapeless women I've seen

Afflict · Tue 05/12/2006 23:17:07

Ok, my take on this:

1) The neck is running thick to thin from top to bottom.
You should have it running slimmer to the top thicker to the bottom.
(It seems her body follows this trend too)

2) The head has no shape. What I mean is the hair in the back looks like its where there should be some form of skull. Study 3/4 quarter views This will help you fix the eyes and side of face too.

3) The buttocks, is also wrong. The furthest cheek should be smaller than the closest one not the other way around.

4) The earing needs some perspective or volume it looks flat against her.

5) The back line or spine line looks off center, agreed shes angled. Just use what works best in this situation.

5) Her arm looks broken too much weight is placed on the back of the fore arm.
Rather try angling her arm a bit.

Great work thus far good luck!

-Afflict

Chicky · Tue 05/12/2006 23:46:47

Working on a far better one now. Have been working on it the past two nights.

Keep checking the thread!

Evil · Wed 06/12/2006 05:43:53

Quote from: Andail on Tue 05/12/2006 20:27:49
Hm...Evil...is it a teenage boy's back we're looking at? That's the most shapeless women I've seen

Well, with no reference photo, and a bad pose to begin with, I don't think I did that bad. Mainly, it was for proportion and angles of everything.

And I like my women with manly backs.

LGM · Wed 06/12/2006 06:47:13

Yea, you should see his girlfriend!

Chicky · Thu 07/12/2006 00:02:46

Here's a new image, really happy with this one! Its my take of Kelly Hawthorne from The Blackwell Legacy before the new images were uploaded to Wadjet Eye's' website.

Hairs not finished, any ideas?

i k a r i · Thu 07/12/2006 04:33:00

Love your style!
Here a couple of edits! I hope they are useful somehow xD

The second one is where the ghost appears, a weird flash only she can see

ildu · Thu 07/12/2006 05:12:34

When you want to paint black hair, you should go with a black base and near-dark color highlights. If you keep it monotone and start painting grey highlights, the hair will just start to look gray rather than black. Moreso, highlights of the same hue are basically impossible, since you'd need a pure white light source for it. So what were playing at when painting black hair is kind of stretching the truth by emphasizing the glossiness of hair strands.

Starts by defining a near-black color base for the hair. Grayish blue hues should do nicely since her eyes are blue. Then work your way into more and more detail by using smaller and sharper brushes, and at the same time move towards more brightness and contrast for the highlighted strands of hair. Map out areas which you'd think would be the most reflective, and draw the highlights extra strong for the hair strands in those areas. A combination of these will ensure that you get the needed depth and form that you wouldn't get with a simple black solid.

Chicky · Tue 13/03/2007 01:06:27

Hey, had another shot at the eyes on this today.

opinions:

Sparky · Tue 13/03/2007 06:17:44

The eyes are much improved! The shaping is a lot better. I like how you shaded the whites slightly.

You might want to make the lower eyelash a little smaller than the upper. It might also look a little more natural if you added a strip of pink inside her lower eyelash. This isn't the best edit, but hopefully it illustrates what I'm saying.

Ildu- what a useful detailed post about hair! There's a lot to learn from in there.

Stefano · Thu 15/03/2007 05:44:27

Hey, dudes! I was just paying you a visit when I've stumbled across this post.
First, I think that this is a difficult pose to paint, specially if you're doing it without any sort of reference. So, congratulations on your efforts.

The main stuff that bugs me when I look at your pic are anatomy-related. Eyes are too big and separated, perspective is not accurate on nose and mouth and body is too small. I don't really blame you, since (as I've already have pointed out) this is one heck of a hard pose to depict. Pose references can be really helpful in cases such as this.

Here's my speed paintover:

I hope it helps!

Cheers,
-Stefano

Da_Elf · Fri 16/03/2007 13:49:25

shit dude thats awsome for a speed paint. i wish i could paint like that.

Chicky · Sat 17/03/2007 11:16:46

Thanks for that brilliant paint over!

I will keep everyone's points in mind when starting my next image, whatever it may be. A little more planning is needed i guess.

markbilly · Sun 18/03/2007 22:18:24

Quote from: Chicky.Period. on Tue 13/03/2007 01:06:27
Hey, had another shot at the eyes on this today.

opinions:

I preferred the old eyes. They were bigger and had more character I thought, it was the hair that needed sorting, the eyes were perfect.