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Creative Production => Critics' Lounge => Topic started by: Inkoddi on Fri 21/11/2003 19:33:12

Title: need help drawing grass
Post by: Inkoddi on Fri 21/11/2003 19:33:12
This is a background I made:
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/sfd2.gif)

Now the thing is, I have a little problem. The grass!
Please help me make better grass than just plain green!!
Title: Re:need help drawing grass
Post by: Ben on Fri 21/11/2003 20:24:29
Well, I think the main problem with the grass is that there's no depth to it.  There should be shadows where the sunlight doesn't hit (under the trees, and the hills that face away from the light.  You could also make the distant hills lighter, to give the effect of atmosphere (even on a clear day, things in the distance will appear a bit foggy).  You might even want to add more hills in the distance.. Right now it looks like there's a cliff behind the house.

You could add some texture to the grass as well (using the airbrush).. Though I'm not sure it would fit with your cartoony style.
Title: Re:need help drawing grass
Post by: Inkoddi on Fri 21/11/2003 20:48:38
messed around a bit:
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/sfd3.gif)
better?
Title: Re:need help drawing grass
Post by: Evil on Fri 21/11/2003 21:22:21
Yes, that is much better. It isnt "correct" but i think it looks fine that way. It fits the style. Probably much easier that way too.
Title: Re:need help drawing grass
Post by: Erwin_Br on Fri 21/11/2003 21:42:21
I would've changed either the colour of the trees or the grass. Currently both are using the same shade of green.

--Erwin
Title: Re:need help drawing grass
Post by: Inkoddi on Fri 21/11/2003 22:03:27
I made the grass a more yellowish shade of green :D
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/sfd3a.gif)
It actually looks better. Thanks Erwin
Title: Re:need help drawing grass
Post by: Evil on Fri 21/11/2003 22:09:08
Much better. But keep in mind, when an object heads tward the vanishing point it's value will go towards the middle of the value scale. Ie, make the grass darker the farther back it goes rather then brighter.
Title: Re:need help drawing grass
Post by: jannar85 on Fri 21/11/2003 22:55:20
Evil has really converted to a great artist is seems... I still remember his first background.. ahhhh...

Anyways, I wanted to tell you that the statue looks like Mario and Luigi.. :)
Title: Re:need help drawing grass
Post by: Evil on Fri 21/11/2003 22:58:57
Lol Jannar! I dont even remember my first background. I do, however, remember my first character sprite. Heh, I HAVE A FAN!
Title: Re:need help drawing grass
Post by: oscar on Sat 22/11/2003 20:29:59
I think the big tree looks very professional
Title: Re:need help drawing grass
Post by: OneThinkingGal and ._. on Sat 22/11/2003 21:13:15
Quote from: Evil on Fri 21/11/2003 22:09:08
Much better. But keep in mind, when an object heads tward the vanishing point it's value will go towards the middle of the value scale. Ie, make the grass darker the farther back it goes rather then brighter.

Incorrect. As you go further deeper into a scene objects with the same value appear lighter and less saturated, even to the point of diffused. Its called atmospheric perspective.  

This is not true if its actually darker where the vanishing point is towards, like a deep forest or something, but that's not the case here.  :P

Here's a link with some more information and examples: http://www.tpub.com/content/photography/14209/css/14209_134.htm

PS: If you're doing a stylized thingy, maybe you could (just to stop the people who keep going but if he WANTS it to). I'm talking about realistic rendering.
Title: Re:need help drawing grass
Post by: Erwin_Br on Sat 22/11/2003 23:01:49
The Gal is right ;)

We (www.AdventureDevelopers.com) once had a tutorial about this subject written by Bill Tiller, lead artist on CMI.

I'll make sure to bring it back on-line once the site's back up.

--Erwin
Title: Re:need help drawing grass
Post by: Inkoddi on Sun 23/11/2003 12:54:42
Quote from: jannar85 on Fri 21/11/2003 22:55:20
Anyways, I wanted to tell you that the statue looks like Mario and Luigi.. :)

Well spotted!! The statue represents Mario and Luigi!!
*Inkoddi sends some candy to jannar85
Title: Re:need help drawing grass
Post by: Evil on Sun 23/11/2003 17:17:03
I guess I am wrong. Thanks for that site Otg, very helpful.