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Creative Production => Critics' Lounge => Topic started by: Phemar on Sun 04/04/2004 14:54:02

Title: Need help with the shape of a car... (formerly street scene place)
Post by: Phemar on Sun 04/04/2004 14:54:02
Hey, here's another bg for my upcoming game, Counterfeit.

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/streetyoutsideplace.gif)

I know there are some things off, like tha shading, and stuff on the desk in the room, the chair, etc.

C&C Welcome as always!




UPDATE:

Here, need help with the shape of this car, (before I color it and stuff)

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/car5.gif)

Paintovers welcome as always!
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Iwan on Sun 04/04/2004 16:06:04
Cool background , I like the style!

The thing I noticed  that was off was the bin. Its a bit thin and there should be pixels going accross aswell as down.

and the window, it should be:

http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/help1.bmp

and you should make it look like there is glass on the window:

http://www.agsforums.com/yabb/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=12737


/Iwan
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: on Sun 04/04/2004 16:20:01
its a good background,

i think THe Shadow of the street lamp should go backwards and then up the wall instead of along the ground.. cos it looks off.. from the rest of youre shadows i think the light source is coming from in front so that would be good...

Other than that.. it looks good and i can't wait 4 the game!
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Andail on Sun 04/04/2004 16:34:49
Overall it's quite good.
Try make all vertical objects really vertical, now everything looks a bit tilted.
The trashbin could really need some more work; start off by making the opening much broader (the perspective is off now).
Also, the curb is getting gradually thinner - in the wrong direction.
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Sun 04/04/2004 17:32:26
Not bad at all!

I can tell this is the outside of the room you posted before!

They'll fit quite nicely together in-game.

Aside from a few perspective issues, I like it a lot!

~ d
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Phemar on Sun 04/04/2004 18:30:33

Hey thanks everyone, I'm reworking it sa fast as possible
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Ben on Sun 04/04/2004 19:14:10
Looks good. Like Darth said, it fits perfectly with the inside of the office.

The only problem I see is with the lamp.  It's shaded on the right side, but it casts a shadow to the left.
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Kweepa on Sun 04/04/2004 21:40:26
Good stuff!
You're improving rapidly!

Maybe that window could do with a frame...
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Phemar on Mon 05/04/2004 06:54:58
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/streetyoutsideplace2.gif)

QuoteMaybe that window could do with a frame...

Nah...

QuoteThe only problem I see is with the lamp. It's shaded on the right side, but it casts a shadow to the left.
i think THe Shadow of the street lamp should go backwards and then up the wall instead of along the ground.. cos it looks off.. from the rest of youre shadows i think the light source is coming from in front so that would be good...
and the window, it should be:

Done!

QuoteTry make all vertical objects really vertical, now everything looks a bit tilted.
Also, the curb is getting gradually thinner - in the wrong direction.

It's a warped perspective style game.


So there you have it! My updated Background!
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Andail on Mon 05/04/2004 08:43:25
QuoteIt's a warped perspective style game

Allright, whatever you call it, I'd still like to see it with proper perspective...

Note that games with goofy cartoonistic distorted perspective seldom have a reversed perspective; they have proper perspective albeit not perfectly straight lines and angles, making things look warped. But there is still an order.

Ok, enough ranting. The image is good as it is :)
Quote
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Mon 05/04/2004 16:49:55
The new shadows are much better!

I would add some shadow lines behind the trash can on the wall.

Aside from that I like it a lot!

I noticed you added the chair behind the counter.  Nice touch!

~ d
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Opo Terser on Wed 07/04/2004 21:36:20
Quick edit:

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/remake_copy2.gif)
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Hollister Man on Thu 08/04/2004 05:31:23
ACK!!  Another one bites the dust!

The humanity!! Another drive-by from Opo Terser!
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Phemar on Thu 08/04/2004 06:39:40

Right, here is the latest version, fresh from the griddle:

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/streetyoutsideplacehasrisenagain.gif)

Opo: Your style isn't exactly my style, but thanks for the edit, and big thanks for the bin!
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Ozwalled on Thu 08/04/2004 21:35:54
If that's a manhole cover on the road, you may want to make it more of an oval (stretched horizontally).

EDIT: Also, the lightest part of the doorknob should maybe be on the other side (right, instead of left), based on the light hitting the post.
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Opo Terser on Thu 08/04/2004 21:38:37
Yeah the bin was the main thing I wasn't pleased with, oh well, glad you liked it. And yeah I realized the doorknob issue too when I did mine. But it doesnt really matter its a nice background.
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Phemar on Fri 09/04/2004 05:47:25

Is not a manhole, is a pothole. Manholes aren't so close to the sidewalk (I think). But yeah, I will change the doorknob.
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Ozwalled on Fri 09/04/2004 06:11:01
I'd make the pothole more oval, just the same. Though I see it now that you've pointed it out, I had no idea what it was at first.

That's just me, though.
Title: Re:A Background (street scene place) - Counterfeit.
Post by: Phemar on Fri 09/04/2004 07:44:10

Yeah, okay.
I'm working now on a car that will drive by the place, and I can't get the shape right:

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/car5.gif)

Any help would be appreciated!
Title: Re:Need help with the shape of a car... (formerly street scene place)
Post by: Damien on Fri 09/04/2004 12:10:47
It looks great!

Just fix the first wheel, it seems broken.

Also, maybe the car looks too realistic for your 'warped perspective' style.
Title: Re:Need help with the shape of a car... (formerly street scene place)
Post by: Peter Thomas on Fri 09/04/2004 12:22:16
yeah - that front wheel looks like it's falling out, while the back one seems to be almost going in (?) And maybe 'cartoonize' it a bit more. The two styles (cartoon/realistic) very rarely work well together.

As for the pothole in the road... I don't know EXACTLY how you'd fix it, but to me, it looks like something that would sit ON TOP of the street (ie - a seriously deformed rock), as opposed to something that's below street level.

But otherwise jolly good stuff :D