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Title: Need some advice. Updated!
Post by: HingedShinobi on Sat 22/05/2004 13:06:22
I have started making my first game in AGS and I have the first background although it isn't finished, I don't know what to put at the bottom of the room to stop the character from going down (you know, the room seems to go on forever, but I dont want it to seem like that) any other advice/critism is welcome

(http://www32.brinkster.com/hobmoblin/db/example.gif)
(http://www32.brinkster.com/hobmoblin/db/example.gif)


I dont think the shading is very good either, so i'll probably redo that
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Dan2552 on Sat 22/05/2004 13:19:39
nice scructure. looks good so far

is there a name for the game?
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: LordHart on Sat 22/05/2004 13:25:17
You could put a table and/or a bed at the bottom of the room... that is if it is a bedroom.
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Phemar on Sat 22/05/2004 13:25:42

I like your style, but your colors... :-X  :P  :'(

Maybe change the colors...wait yes, please change the colors...
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: HingedShinobi on Sat 22/05/2004 13:43:50
ok I'll change the colours, I've just found out how to set up the pallet properly in Graphics Gale
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Arboris on Sat 22/05/2004 13:52:40
Maybe you could change the door to be wider at the top then at the bottom instead. I think that would look better then your current version. Also I think the wall and floor colors need a change. These just dont look right. And if you are going to redo your shading, try to use the roof window for the light source since there is no other sign of a possible light source (yet anyway).
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Peter Thomas on Sat 22/05/2004 14:22:58
I really like the off-kilter look you've given the room, but that said, it doesn't look like the bookshelf and painting are warped enough to fit in properly. It's not anything drastic, and it didn't jump out as totally obvious to me, but it's something to consider.

Also, I'd try raising the height of the door. I've never seen a door that only goes halfway up the wall, and - unless your character is 3 feet tall - you're going to have to work on some major shrinking animations to make him/her fit. If, of course, your character IS three feet tall, then I'd leave it exactly how it appears.

Good luck, and I really like your style
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: HingedShinobi on Sat 22/05/2004 15:12:51
I've updated it slightly, and fiddled around with the colour, the red dots on the night sky painting are meant to be pins, and I think there are to many stars, I've also redone the bookshelf slightly, although I think it now looks worse

(http://www32.brinkster.com/hobmoblin/example.gif)
(http://www32.brinkster.com/hobmoblin/example.gif)
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Arboris on Sat 22/05/2004 17:09:06
I like the door alot better the way it is now. The cabin is still a bit rifid and straight looking compared to the rest tho.
The colors look alot better now too, compared to your old ones.
What i did notice is the wrong perspective on the window in the roof. you might want it to change to look a bit more like this:
(http://members.lycos.nl/arboris/AGS/RoofEdit1.gif)

btw: the night sky picture almost looks like a window.
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Opo Terser on Sat 22/05/2004 19:25:53
I did an edit:

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/roomredone_copy.gif)
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Phemar on Sat 22/05/2004 19:40:08

I always love your edits, Opo.
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: DragonRose on Sat 22/05/2004 20:25:41
Maybe make the back wall bigger.  That would cut down on the empty space at the front of the room.  There's so much floor you'd almost definetly need to use scaling.
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Nacho on Sat 22/05/2004 21:13:13
I do love your edits too, Opo... But they're very very personal, no matter who does the outlines or the composition, if you color it, its Opoish...

So... to keep graphic coherence in games, don't make edits of any work here in Critics Lounge...

Colour my grqphics...  ;D
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: HingedShinobi on Sat 22/05/2004 23:36:23
WHOA!!! That edit rules, but its not the kinda style I'm going for, but its helped me do some of the shading better, thanks
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Dan2552 on Sun 23/05/2004 12:15:41
if hobmoblin went with the edit he'd have to work extremly hard to get other rooms like that
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Peter Thomas on Sun 23/05/2004 13:02:49
I like your colour scheme more now. It looks a little more like a room I'd be willing to live in, though I still don't know how many people really have pea-green carpets (unless the room belongs to either a freak or a hero, in which case it's exactly right). On that note, though, it looks strange to have the floor and the grass in the painting the exact same colour (or else really really similar).

Whilst I absolutely love Opo's edit, I agree with Dan. If it goes against someone's natural style, it'll take an eternity to make everything else match, so I'd say: admire opo's work, and take suggestions from it (he's improved the perspective of the skylight), but stick with your own gut style. It's what makes this community so.... different. (Thanks, captain obvious!)

I love your work, if you don't already know.
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: HingedShinobi on Sun 23/05/2004 13:52:02
(http://www32.brinkster.com/hobmoblin/example.gif)
(http://www32.brinkster.com/hobmoblin/example.gif)

This is the latest version, but I think the light on the floor makes the room look darker, and yes Peter the room does belong to the hero, although its not his bedroom
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Peter Thomas on Sun 23/05/2004 13:58:18
It does make the sky look a little darker, yes, but I don't think that's a bad thing. I really like the green carpet now (maybe I'm just used to it), but I think my eyes would hurt if the whole floor was that bright.

What else can I say? Hmm... nothing really. The room sort of looks bare, but then again, it doesn't. The fact that painting is on the ground leaning against the wall suggests to me that the room is meant to be a little disorganised (alright, a LOT disorganised).

All in all, I'd be happy to walk into a room like this in a game, and I'd be quite satisfied. In fact, I think it looks pretty groovy, and I haven't said that word FOR EVER! (that was a compliment, in some roundabout sort of way)
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: HingedShinobi on Sun 23/05/2004 14:07:22
Thanks! I'm not to sure what to add, maybe if I give you some more info about the game, well, the game is set in a computer, you play as Jimlin, who was recently drawn in a drawing app by the user of the computer, the computer gets struck down by a virus that brings the sprites to life and captures some of them, you as Jimlin and his friends must then try and find a way to destroy the new virus that plagues the internet. I didn't know what the inside of a computer would look like to a sprite so I designed it like this world, each computer is like a house, and the Internet is like the big outside world. This room is meant to be like the 'My Pictures" folder which explains the pictures on the wall and floor, but I don't know what else to add
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: HingedShinobi on Thu 27/05/2004 15:00:02
UPDATE: I have added some stuff, not sure about the colour of the sofa though, and the angles on the air vent

(http://www32.brinkster.com/hobmoblin/test1.gif)
(http://www32.brinkster.com/hobmoblin/test1.gif)
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Nhazgul on Thu 27/05/2004 15:32:26
Good work!
If you make the shadows not erase the black outlines it'd be better.
Maybe a tv could be placed in front of the sofa. A livingroom without a tv feels a bit naked.
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: HingedShinobi on Thu 27/05/2004 16:03:16
added the TV, but I'm not to sure if it looks right (its a flat screen)

(http://www32.brinkster.com/hobmoblin/test.gif)
(http://www32.brinkster.com/hobmoblin/test.gif)
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: InCreator on Thu 27/05/2004 16:13:16
This light spot on the floor. It's unbelieveable. Make it larger than ceiling window! Apart from that - pretty good. Just add some more stuff around and try to shade walls and floor a bit more, make it darker at the corners.
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: HingedShinobi on Thu 27/05/2004 16:39:09
UPDATE: redid  light patch on the floor, changed the colour of the sofa (thanks dan2552)

(http://www32.brinkster.com/hobmoblin/test2.gif)
(http://www32.brinkster.com/hobmoblin/test2.gif)
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Johnny Odd on Thu 27/05/2004 19:30:32
It always makes me happy to look at someone's original room and then see how much they've progressed after advice and edits - Your room now officialy rocks -
However..... (sorry - there had to be something! ;))
The painting/poster looks like a window and when i first saw it i was confused as to whether it was day or night - please curl a corner over or something - see opo's edit.
Also, i don't understand what that dark grren line going from the door to the sofa is. ???
One last thing! The shading by the cabinet on the wall is not right at all - perhaps it needs to be on the floor.

All that said - I DO really like this b/g - any characters or plot? I'd love to see 'em
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: HingedShinobi on Thu 27/05/2004 19:36:10
thanks, I dont know which dark green line, the one under the door?
I tried to curl a corner over but failed, i'll try again later. EDIT: I tried again, I just cant seem to get it right, it just looks like a greyishwhite triangle randomly placed on the picture. EDIT 2: I just thought of a way to make it look like a picture without curling a corner over, I'll post an image when done.
There is a kind of plot outline on the previous page (last post on that page) but I'm still working on it, I'll post it here for some critism soon.
the characters are also being done slowly but surely,
thanks again
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: HingedShinobi on Fri 28/05/2004 10:32:14
UPDATE: Fixed up some of the shading (especially the filing cabinet) and Put the hook thingy above the painting on the wall.
(http://www32.brinkster.com/hobmoblin/test3.gif)
(http://www32.brinkster.com/hobmoblin/test3.gif)