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Title: New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: R4L on Sat 24/01/2004 00:34:44
http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Genie.bmp

This is a genie and he is doing the bring it on sign. Since it is so small I will tell you some things.

1.) The white dot on his face is not just the eye. Below it is a red dot to express anger.

2.) The abs are shitty and I don't know how to draw abs. Maybe some tips?

3.) The arms look like crap. Any tips?

EDIT: http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Girl.bmp

This is my girl. I don't know a name for her, but I know the right leg looks like crap, so does the hands and probrobly everything else but, with the words of the people, I can improve this so...

Please feel free to say what you want cause this is just a example and I want to improve this as much as I can.
Corey
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: MrColossal on Sat 24/01/2004 05:42:14
can the 9th thing a nigga never does be posting BMPs on the agsforums?
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: LordHart on Sat 24/01/2004 07:07:51
You just know that he's a white guy... ;D
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: evilspacefart on Sat 24/01/2004 17:59:23
The girl, not bad. Genies head seems to not match his body... too small.
rap4life try saving them as gifs. Even mspaint can save them as gifs.
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: R4L on Sun 25/01/2004 02:32:25
Yeah I can save it as GIF, but I hate it when it screws with the colors. I like BMP but I guess I can't save anything in it anymore. Well I will work on the genie's head but I still need to know if I have anything wrong with my girl. Anyone think of a name that goes along with her personality...

Shes a porn star, likes to talk dirty and drinks alot. She smokes and has a "Com' ere big boy!" kinda talk.  ;D
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: Ali on Sun 25/01/2004 14:55:35
Rap4Life, every time you post an image people (and a colourful sign) tell you not to post bitmaps. Furthermore I'm sure I've heard a moderator ask you to change your signature to something less offensive.

When you ignore this kind of advice, how can you expect help with your work?

EDIT: It seems I dreampt that a moderator asked Rap4life to change his signature, though I believe it has caused some offence. Please don't change your signature on account of me Rap, the point I hoped to make was that by listening to suggestions, especially about posting as a .gif or a .jpg, you could get more helpful feedback.

Gifs and jpegs can mess up the picture, but there are a lot of skilled artists here who post excellent compressed images.

I hope Eric doesn't mind me showing this to illustrate my point:
(http://www.sylpher.com/kafka/junk/planthead.jpg)

Also, I think the girl should be called Sandy.
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: Fizz on Sun 25/01/2004 20:56:52
please do change youre signature... its not very nice.
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: MrColossal on Sun 25/01/2004 21:11:33
as far as i know a moderator has never asked him to.

and there is nothing wrong with his signature. if anything i just wish he would not put them all on their own line.

how is his sig any worse than someone with the words "Dick stroking poofter fuck" in it?
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: R4L on Sun 25/01/2004 22:15:11
Exactly what eric said and if you read it its not pointed at anyone. Im not racist either. I will change it just so no one in the future asks me to.

Anyway, can I get some advice on a name?
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: big brother on Mon 26/01/2004 00:13:18
How about "Dick stroking poofter fuck"?
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: taryuu on Mon 26/01/2004 18:45:04
i can't believe that you've posted a bmp 9 seperate times.  
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Girl.png)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Genie.png)

now was that so hard?

anyway i hate the skin colours.  and the girl's breasts are too high up on her chest.  her torso has no shape, and her hair colour is weird too.

the genie's head looks kinda tiny too.
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: R4L on Mon 26/01/2004 20:09:58
All right how do you post just the image up? I can't figure that out and I haven't even heard of a url, but does it relate to html or .com?

Taryuu: I will work on her breasts  ;D and her torso but her hair is supposed to be dirty blonde.

Ali: Yes I will start listening and I will change my signiture when I feel I am not so tired. I will save my images in .PNG now because I got this BMP2PNG thing. It works like a charm.

Thank you for all the suggestions!  ;D
Corey
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: JimmyShelter on Mon 26/01/2004 20:13:39
Quote from: Rap4Life42o on Mon 26/01/2004 20:09:58
All right how do you post just the image up? I can't figure that out and I haven't even heard of a url, but does it relate to html or .com?

An url is what you see in your address thing in Internet Explorer. So http://www.agsforums.com is an url.
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: R4L on Wed 28/01/2004 22:09:13
So if I want just the image up, what do i type in?
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: Minimi on Wed 28/01/2004 23:00:24
goto http://www.agsforums.com/yabb/YaBBHelp/posting.html for information on how to post something special in your post.
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: R4L on Thu 29/01/2004 04:07:58
Thank you for the reference Minimi, it helped alot.

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Jason_Dombroski.png)

Sorry I didn't zoom him in but, this is Jason Dombroski. I am starting 2 projects and so far the one im working on isn't so great but...

For all of you who know what the game Silent Hill is, I started a game on it, same name but it is called " SILENT HILL: RETURN TO SILENT HILL" and I don't plan on releasing this until I have my website up and going and until I get KONAMI™ permission. I know they are gonna say no but I don't care. I release a demo and if no one like it, I scrap it. I am a HUGE fan of silent hill games and I would like to make my own thriller based on it. I think I give it a new title, stay away from the story of silent hill, and change the town name, to make it less copying. I have my own story, but it needs work. The puzzles are going to be judged on how you play for example, if you are dying alot and are low on ammo and health, the puzzles will be easy, not to mention the difficulty, but if you doin good and have a good rate, you will have to use your mind for some puzzles. I hope no one disagrees with this project because I am very exicted about it, and I hope no one ruins it.
Peace, Corey
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: Fizz on Fri 30/01/2004 15:32:46
...

so, if i were to have JUDESCHWEIN! in my signature, it wouldn't offend people because its not aimed at anyone in particular?

very off off topic, i know. sorry about that.


the skin color is perhaps a tad too red for my taste :)
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: R4L on Sat 31/01/2004 04:29:11
Well in my signiture that I had last time, it said
1.) Neva let a nigga know your business.
I haven't stated a name in any part of my signiture. I also said that it wasn't pointed at anyone. So, you tell me.  :(
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: JimmyShelter on Sat 31/01/2004 10:18:11
Quote from: Rap4Life42o on Sat 31/01/2004 04:29:11
Well in my signiture that I had last time, it said
1.) Neva let a nigga know your business.
I haven't stated a name in any part of my signiture. I also said that it wasn't pointed at anyone. So, you tell me.  :(

Most people see 'nigga' as a racist word. I know I would never use it.
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: Eggie on Sat 31/01/2004 13:14:52
Stay on topic, people or I may have to pop a cap in your asses.

Okay, before I post this I'd just like to say I am aware of the fact that this picture has been royally sodomised by MSPaint:
(http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://eggie.sphosting.com/otherartists/rapsbitchinhoyall.GIF)
Righto. I know there's a lot wrong with this picture but apart from that there's one main difference from yours.
Her pose.
The way a character stands, moves, their facial expressions says a great deal about who they are. It looks like you tried to draw her in mid-walk. That's probably not a good idea if you're just getting to know a character even if all they do in the game is walk around.

This may not be a pefect pic but it has personality. That's what you should be aiming for in my opinion.

/me  Wants to design characters for a living one day :p
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: R4L on Sun 01/02/2004 01:04:38
Your right Eggie.
I was trying to make it look like she was looking back at someone while she was walking, but I guess it didn't work, lol.
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: Ytterbium on Sun 01/02/2004 02:47:35
I think you're right on, Eggie. Try to aim for a little more of that in your characters.
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: R4L on Sat 13/03/2004 07:54:12
I just got this new animation done and I am impressed. My guy is pretty small but the animation is great. The only problem is that I don't have the images cause I on my friends comp but I got the demo game up last week(I just noticed).

I will have it up soon so be patient plaese even though I probrobly won't get much demand off of this piece of crap.

EDIT: Here it is...

http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/CaRtOoN2.zip

Tell me if ya like the new animation.
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: Haddas on Sat 13/03/2004 09:10:59
Hmm... I sense he has an attitude problem... I like the animation for some reason. I REALLY like it for some reason. Must be the walkspeed and sprites that do the work...
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: R4L on Sat 13/03/2004 17:50:11
QuoteMust be the walkspeed and sprites that do the work...
What's that supposed to mean?
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: Haddas on Sat 13/03/2004 17:54:13
That I like how the walkspeed fits in with the walk animation
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: Eggie on Sat 13/03/2004 18:53:39
It's a shame that there's already a game called Fuck Quest.  ;D
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: R4L on Sun 14/03/2004 02:47:09
Oh I thought you meant I copied it from something.

lol that's preety funny. I could have a sequel called Fuck Quest 2  ;D
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: Chicky on Sun 14/03/2004 11:32:11
Rap4LIfe,

no offence but i find your posts extremely annoying, your constantly using uneeded text effects, you always post bmp's even though its against the forum rules and to view your last animation you had to download a file? whats up with that.

Im not flaming you, im just trying to help you get a bit more positive feedback. Im sure im not the only forum member who finds this annoying, and it really isnt that hard to fix. Go download a freeware animation program.

-OSC
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: R4L on Sun 14/03/2004 23:21:00
Well, I guess I am sorry for using text effects and bmps but that file, you didn't have to download it. It was there because I could not get the regular images up. I wasn't even at my place to do so, and I stated that. And if you think I am so annoying then don't go in in my threads. Then you won't have to worry about it.
I was just looking for someone's advice, yours is ok. I understand you are trying to help me get more positive feedback, but I ain't exactly the ags genius or know it all of the internet. Give me a break. And as far as freeware programs go, I have a few that I use. I use Graphic's Gale for the animation in the short little demo. All I am saying is that you didn't have to do anything in this thread. You didn't have to download shit.

Posted by: Rap4Life42o

I just got this new animation done and I am impressed. My guy is pretty small but the animation is great. The only problem is that I don't have the images cause I on my friends comp but I got the demo game up last week(I just noticed).

Stated it right there.
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: R4L on Mon 15/03/2004 00:01:31
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Corey's_Animated_Man.gif)

There it is, without you having to download something  ;)
I don't see anything wrong with it, so maybe you can. Can anyone tell me what the hell is wrong with this?
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: MrColossal on Mon 15/03/2004 01:23:38
I really like the animation. He has a lot of bounce.

My only worry is that he'll be running from place to place and if he's just hanging out in his bedroom that may look a little weird.

other than that, see how the pink background changes size? that's what you want to avoid, put the guy in a box big enough to take all of his animation at once.

that and his foot comes down and it goes down a few pixels and then comes back up again shifting his whole body. that gives the impression that he isn't running on the same plane and is kind of jumping around

also his arms kind of meld with his body, there's no line to tell us when his arm is in front of his body or behind

in my edit i repositioned him and drew some quick arms in

(http://sylpher.com/kafka/junk/edits/rap4lifeedit.gif)
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: R4L on Mon 15/03/2004 01:40:54
Thanks Colossal, yeah I kinda messed up with the arms.

that and his foot comes down and it goes down a few pixels and then comes back up again shifting his whole body. that gives the impression that he isn't running on the same plane and is kind of jumping around

Is that good?

Can I have them image files? That is pretty nice.
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: Gfunkera on Thu 18/03/2004 21:37:15
Is this what ya wanted??? Oh and post all the bmp you want I don't care post 3 or 4 meg image files I still don't care lol I got broadband do what ya' will... I notice theres a lot of whinners around here. Rules are meant to be broken!!  :o

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/yourani.PNG)


Think anyone can help me fix the side view for this character, he's originally from insta game just modified for me but I can't seem to get the side view to look good, I may have screwed up on the walkin frames too??? Anyways check it out, and maybe help me out if ya' can....
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/charrich.gif)

<edit> shiat after I made this gif I realized its cutting off some off his movments..... damn it....
Title: Re:New characters! Need criticism!
Post by: R4L on Tue 06/04/2004 13:57:30
Comin' Off The Streets

This is a game I started recently actually about a week ago but I got a demo ready, I got my full version going preety good, and I have had alot of free time now that school hasn't been giving us any homework for a while.
My game is about a boy named Bubba Young. He lives with his mother who is unemployed and lives off of her unemployment money. She can barely keep food on the table. She undergoes lots of stress and eventually starts to beat her children. It was only when they got the eviction notice that Bubba starts to keep a journal. He decides that he is only making his mother suffer and even though he loves her, he decides to run away to find a better life for himself.

The game takes off there. You start out by his house where he says goodbye to the town he grew up in. He walks out of town and never looks back. It is very dark and Bubba notices a barn down the road. He walks to it, and sneaks in. He sleeps in the hay. When he wakes up, he thinks its still early. He writes an entry in his journal, and then takes some stuff from the barn that he thnk he will need. He then thinks of an idea. He will go to the city and live in a foster home. The city ain't to far away. It starts to get dark out and Bubba has to rest from walking. Meanwhile, a car is speeding down the road. The lady has been drinking, and she drifts away. She catches herself and looks back up. She screams and jerks the wheel to the right. Her car slams into Bubba, and he lies silently on the ground...

Thats all that is known for the final version. I am at my friends so no screenshots or a demo will be up anytime soon. I have been practicing the script and I now know how to use the AGS Flashlight plugin. But, I can't get the credits to work. I am trying to make it so you can do anything for people with curiosity, like, if you think he is hungry, go get a burger. If you think the newspaper on the ground might have something interesting in it, pick it up and read it. The game has indoor music and outdoor music. If your outside, the wind will blow or it will be calm. At night, owls hoot in the background. I am looking for a sound that has a footprint for outside and indoors but I haven't had any luck. I think this project is going well.

If you have any questions or comments or anything, post it here or e~mail me at Xpac3491@aol.com

P.S. I gave my neighbor the right to finish Torn Souls. He now owns it and is trying to figure out how to use the script. lol.

EDIT: OOPS! I just noticed. Wrong Forum!