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Creative Production => Critics' Lounge => Topic started by: Raider on Sat 24/07/2004 02:24:53

Title: New story/game
Post by: Raider on Sat 24/07/2004 02:24:53
I posted a game idea in the other forum earlier but I have changed my mind on the story so can you please tell me what you think of this one?

Cut scene: You and your partner are flying in your helicopter out at see (returning to th aircraft carrior when you fly through the beumuda triangle and all of your engines fail. Your partner 'bails' out and parachutes down to a nearby island and you 'bail' out later and land on an island 200 meters away.

Your 'mission/objective' is to get to the other island some how and find your partner. when this is accomplished you find an ancient tablet with the plans to build a plane (it is true that they have found a model from ancient aztec times. www.world-mysteries.com) and you need to build this plane from wood and other resources around the islands and from there you fly it to another island. That is all I have thought of so far, please tell me if you are interested and would enjoy the game and any improvements I need.

Thanks all

- Raider
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Mats Berglinn on Sat 24/07/2004 07:28:24
Sounds interesting concept for a game. I never thought that there was aztec way to build a plane but I know that Leonardo Da Venci made "blueprints" of first helicopter and other things that coulnd't be done at the time.
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Daz on Sat 24/07/2004 11:05:22
im just thinking about the distance between the two islands could be longer because it would be quite easy to swim 200 meters, sounds like an intreging plot

-Daz
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Raider on Sat 24/07/2004 11:12:10
Thanks Daz I will note that down. What distace do you rekon? 1k?

- Raider
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Daz on Sat 24/07/2004 11:35:15
yeh 1k is good, or you could say he a some kind of injury preventing from being able to swim because the landing was rough or somthing.
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Alynn on Sat 24/07/2004 13:21:56
Or the dude just cant swim
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Kinoko on Sat 24/07/2004 14:29:40
I'd make it even longer than that because 3 young children off the coast of Australia recently swam 3kms twice within a few days in order to save their lives after a boat sinking.  Mind you, that wasn't the Bermuda Triangle... but still, food for thought. I guiess it depends on exactly how he ends up crossing the distance between the islands in the end.
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Sutebi on Sat 24/07/2004 15:10:29
Why not just chuck some dangerous fish in the water between the islands so that he can't enter them. Adds more to the puzzle solving, and maybe a fish could be part of a puzzle somewhere in the game.

Edit: Or, you know, it's the Bermuda Triangle, maybe the water could be boiling for some unexplained reason.
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Daz on Sat 24/07/2004 15:17:25
hehe, this is becoming quite a debate
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: prowler on Sat 24/07/2004 21:32:50
imo , something that's wrong with this plot is that you know what's gonna happen in the game right from the beginning (you're gonna build a plane and fly it to another island).. you gotta come up with a twist in the story, or else, if the puzzles are hard, the player will be easily distracted
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Raider on Sat 24/07/2004 22:56:12
Hey

I like the idea of the fish! But what sort of twist are you talking about? Like while he was stranded 100 years pass or something?
Thanks

- Raider
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: prowler on Sun 25/07/2004 14:38:23
that's interesting, but you've got to integrate it into the story and keep it belieavable
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Raider on Tue 27/07/2004 05:31:05
Hi all

Any sugestions on a 'juicie' twist in the story?
And also, what would you like to be involved on a stranded island in the present time? e.g what type of puzzles?
Thanks

- Raider
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Peter Thomas on Tue 27/07/2004 07:20:33
As far as I can see, a major thing to consider is the plausibility of building a plane. Although I couldn't find the article in your link (admittedly I wasn't trying to look terribly hard...) I don't doubt they made PLANS for a plane, but the fact that they never amounted to anyone actually CREATING one has to count for something. Would this plan really work?

As far as twists go, maybe you could somehow work the plane into it. For example, for the majority of the game your goal is to find a way of building a plane - but suddenly something happens and now you HAVE to stay on the island. Why? Maybe to uncover a hidden murder. Maybe all of a sudden you have a motive to KILL your partner. Who knows - it's your game, and I'll let you figure it out ;)
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Moox on Tue 27/07/2004 07:36:40
A plane is impossible to build from wood. You need thrust to keep it moving, or else its a glider...
I recomend having the main character crash land on the other side of the island so you have helicopter parts.
Hows this for a plot twist:
The plane is finished...Then the navy finds you as your about to fly
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: BerserkerTails on Tue 27/07/2004 07:42:29
Sounds like an interesting idea so far. But for the twist... How I would do it, is that once the plane is finished, and you try to use it, you find that it'snot actually a plane, but a weapon or something. Then you have to stop it before it finds a way off the island and attacks civilization...
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: jaz on Tue 27/07/2004 08:43:40
If there is material (wood) to build a plane, wouldn't it be logical to decide to build some sort of raft or boat to SAIL away from the island...? It would be logical and proven working thousands of times. Provided there isn't realy HUGE fish or whatever swimming in the sea of course ;)
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Raider on Tue 27/07/2004 11:05:00
Hi
Thank you I like the ideas you have all posted...
What I had in idea is have a mountain/volcano on the island and build the plane but you need to roll it off the mountain/volcano to get 'thrust'. I also thought maybe it is cold or something up the mountain and you need to kill some animals to make a coat to keep warm so you can get up there. I didn't really want to go for the sail boat because that is the boring old way of getting of an island.
Thanks again.

- Raider
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: jaz on Tue 27/07/2004 11:14:13
Of course it's boring and unoriginal way to get off an island but do you think that a man trapped there would say "Nah, I'm not going to build a raft to get outta this hellhole, it's been done to death, let's think about some more fancy way" ? You'd better give a good explanation why NOT use raft, that was the point.
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Raider on Tue 27/07/2004 11:23:34
Hi

I was thinking maybe having a huge creture living in the waters preventing any floating device from leaving the island, but its only a rough idea.
But I definatly see what you mean.
Thanks

- Raider
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Peter Thomas on Tue 27/07/2004 12:15:33
I don't mind Beserker's idea, though I really don't recommend you use it, because half the community will have read it by now, making it a non-twist. That's why I tried to refrain from saying too much earlier.  I see now that a crude plane MIGHT be feasible for your purposes, but the idea of building it from an ancient tribal sketch just doesn't ring true with me. If your character has enough knowledge to   FLY a helicopter (which is no feint task) they would probably know more about it's workings than a 2000 year old man in a cave. Suffice to say that I still think this would make an interesting and very playable game.
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: jaz on Tue 27/07/2004 14:41:08
Once you have a good reason why not to build a boat a makeshift aircraft seems like cool idea but there is a couple of weak points (provided you want your game to be at least a bit realistic).

Firstly, it's not by any means easy to build a real flying machine, not to mention it would have to be done practically without tools (but there could be some basic ones in crashed copter's toolkit). So the character should have some aviation knowledge (preferably an aircraft constructor )   

As for aircraft itself, there are two options: a propelled aircraft or a glider.

If you go for a propelled aircraft, you obviously need some sort of propulsion. An engine is unlikely to be found on deserted island, except maybe the one from crashed copter (but this one is waaay too big for the purpose). Hmmmm… how about a human propelled aircraft then?  Well, it is possible but this had been a dream of many generations and it took a long scientific research and high-end materials were used before the first HPA took off in as late as 1961. Now, it wouldn't be much plausible to build one singlehandedly  from palm leaves and bamboo shots, would it?

Should you go for a glider, it would make things more plausible. It's not a cutting edge machine and with good knowledge of aviation it could be possible to build a makeshift one. Also only things you need to take off and fly is a suitable slope and two legs.  Hang gliders are normally constructed of rip-stop nylon or mylar over an aluminum frame but some “modifications” should be acceptable. Frame can be wooden or made from some parts of helicopter. Then you need some suitable fabric, which can be found in copter cargo (a parachute, a load of Chinese silk or stuff like that :-)

You may think that a glider is not suitable for longer range flights, but hang glider distance record is now over 700 km and even recreation pilots can fly a couple of hundreds staying in air for more than three hours, enough to get off almost anywhere.

The mystique of ancient civilisations would be lost but hey… he can find ANOTHER artefact to even build next story around.

Kinda lenghty but I hope it helps.

jaz

Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Akumayo on Wed 28/07/2004 00:50:36
the creature that lives in the sea could be....... The ONLY GIANT SQUID TO SURFACE FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN, bent on killing anything that moves, perhaps you build a raft, the Giant Squid destroyes it, then you swim back to shore and decide to build a plane!!!

I am brilliant!!!
Title: Re: New story/game
Post by: Raider on Wed 28/07/2004 05:17:55
Yes,
I like the idea of a glider. Don't worry I will put in a good twist to make the story good and exciting. Thank you all for your help and I might just put your names in the credits as the story design people.
Thanks again.

- Raider