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Title: Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Nacho on Mon 04/08/2003 22:49:21
Hi to all...

I am looking for the way to make the gradients of the early 90´s games. Do you remember the skies on Monkey Island 1? I´ve been told that there is a specific tool in deluxe paint to make them, but... what about Pain Shop Pro? Is there something similar?

Thank you.

Edit: Lol! PAIN shop pro! Is it a kind of Bondage shop? :)

Sorry about the misspelling.
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Minimi on Mon 04/08/2003 23:16:28
try the program Corel Painter 8 . You can make it with it very easy. Though I dunno about psp
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: BOYD1981 on Tue 05/08/2003 00:23:49
there are gradient fills in PSP, you have to hold down the left mouse button on the colour square for a while and a little menu will pop up, then you select Gradient then click the coloured square again, which will bring up a toolbar, there are a few presets, the Sunset one is quite nice, but you can make them yourself...
one thing i do when i make low colour gradients is decide roughly how many colours i want, then i pick the two colours, then i'll create a new image that has the dimensions of the ammount of colours i want (16x16 for 16 colours etc) then fill it, and then i have my 16 colours gradient and then use them in the image, hope helps...
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Nacho on Tue 05/08/2003 06:57:23
Well... I haven´t tried it, this is a quick response just for saying... thank you! You´ve been very fast.  ;)
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: n3tgraph on Tue 05/08/2003 07:30:20
it can be done in Photoshop too

what was that filter?
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Nacho on Tue 05/08/2003 11:13:25
EEer... Which filter?

P.S. I can´t do it in PSP Boyd...  :'(
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: TheDude on Tue 05/08/2003 11:51:21
Maybe it depends on which version of PSP you have. Normally you can click a little black arrow on the color to the right hand side then choose either Solid, Gradient, Pattern or Null.
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: n3tgraph on Tue 05/08/2003 12:39:37
damnit I can't remember which filter to use
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: TheDude on Tue 05/08/2003 12:54:01
Posterize?
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: n3tgraph on Tue 05/08/2003 14:05:45
Hmmm I can't seem to find 'postorize' in my photoshop :S
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Hollister Man on Tue 05/08/2003 14:18:39
It is in the Adjustments category, right under Image > Mode
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: n3tgraph on Tue 05/08/2003 14:53:49
hmm looked at it, I don't think that is what I meant and what Farlander needs

thanks anyway
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Synthetique on Tue 05/08/2003 15:51:53
add noise
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Nacho on Tue 05/08/2003 18:53:17
Well... I know to use gradients... But the problem is that 16 milion colours that´s not the "monkey island" digitallizations we know... I think the trick must be in choosing a 6 or 7 colour pallete for making the gradient...

BTW... Is there a way to download Deluxe paint in a "legal" way?

P.S. My PSP is 5.1.

Synthetique... I use noise for making the change of colours in gradients not so noticeable... I don´t think it´s the use I want.   :(
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Pessi on Tue 05/08/2003 19:40:49
I just tried it with PSP and the closest I could get was the following.

1. Make the gradient.
2. Add noise - 10 to 20 units (can't remember if it was percents or something else. :P)
3. Colors -> Decrease Color Depth -> X Colors. It lets you choose the amount of colors, depending on the colors in the gradient, choose 20 to 30.

It's not the same pattern as in Monkey Island 1, but it definitely is closer than with millions of colors.

I also tried it with Photoshop and the result was very close to DPaint's one, which surprised me. Not that it would help this matter, but anyway.

Dpaint's not abandonware? Well, that explains why it was so hard to find. :)
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: TheDude on Tue 05/08/2003 19:42:07
I think the POSTERIZE effect is exactly what you'll be needing, so basically you want a gradient without the thousandsssss of colours.

Do a gradient somewhere, select it then go to Colours>>Posterize then change the Levels value to around 6 or whatever looks ok. Hopefully this is what you wanted.
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: TheDude on Tue 05/08/2003 19:43:19
Ahh, try Pessi's way first, probably works better!
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Nacho on Tue 05/08/2003 20:23:39
It is very close Pessi... It isn´t still what I´m looking for, but that will work, because, as I am just trying to make the  similar style, not a copy.

I´ll try to post screenshots about what I´m looking for, and what did I get with Pessi´s procedure.
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: MrColossal on Tue 05/08/2003 22:22:55
i have a tutorial on how to do it in photoshop, maybe it can help since they are close to one another

http://www.sylpher.com/kafka/tutorials/gradients.htm
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Ben on Wed 06/08/2003 03:25:32
I think the best way is just to use Deluxe Paint. I'm not sure if it's abandonware or not, but I'm pretty sure it's not sold anymore, so I wouldn't feel guilty about downloading it. I can't seem to find a place to download it either, but I could provide a copy..
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: n3tgraph on Wed 06/08/2003 07:48:52
I downloaded it a while ago, but I wasn't too fond of it  :-*

eric tut is great! :)
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Nacho on Wed 06/08/2003 12:23:27
Mr. Colossal, you directed me to a great tutorialll but it works for PS 5.5 and I have PSP 5.1. So, my new questions are:

Where can I download PS?

Can you contact with me to get a copy of Deluxe paint. Ben?

Thank you.
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: n3tgraph on Wed 06/08/2003 12:30:44
you can download a trial on www.adobe.com

then crack it

(OOPS I didn't say that)
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Nacho on Wed 06/08/2003 13:01:37
Oh! I had a Photoshop disk at home... I am testing Kafka´s tutorial... It works quite good... But it is not still "the same" as we saw in MI1.  :'(
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Pessi on Wed 06/08/2003 16:26:46
Here's a link to the Deluxe Paint (http://adventurersguild.org/.files/deluxe_paint_iie-msdos.zip), if you still need it.
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: MrColossal on Wed 06/08/2003 22:22:36
have you tried to use 5.1?

is there no option to index the colours in 5.1?

did you try?
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Las Naranjas on Thu 07/08/2003 11:11:28
Hehe, he shouldn't have written the version numbers because his problem is he' using PSP 5.11, not PS 5.11.
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Nacho on Thu 07/08/2003 17:38:30
Hi people! I´m back after formatting my HD!

I am trying the Deluze paint... man... What an old flavour... I think that is what I need, but... It´s difficult to use! I don´t know how to chabge the gradient direction and the colours... but I´m just starting, just want to say Pessi that the link works.
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Gilbert on Fri 08/08/2003 02:17:29
Farl, right click on the polygon/fill, etc tool icons to bring up a menu.

The gradient colour range, etc. settings are accessible from the palette dialog.
Title: Re:Old 256 colour games gradient in PSP?
Post by: Nacho on Fri 08/08/2003 11:00:39
OK!!! I have the Deluxe paint program and the gradients work! :)