This is one of the old Backgrouds i made.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/LiveingRoomBNEW.jpg)
In game it dosent look to bad
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/scrnshot3.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/scrnshot4.jpg)
The lighting. That's going to be your main concern here. Think about where your light source is and see to it that every single item in the room is lit from the same angle. The chair on the wall facing the window is obviously the same as the one under the window.
The shelves. Empty shelves just make a room look incomplete. They shouldn't be there if they don't have anything to hold.
The glass. Glass doesn't break that way. You'll find that there's an impact site where the glass gave way and that all of the cracks will radiate from that point.
Updated
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/LiveingRoomBNEW-2.jpg)
I fixed the crack in the tv and the white frame above the chair was a mirror but i made it a Pitcher. Added stuff to the shelves and i added a light to the room. Still need to work on more lighting. anything else need's to be fixed?
Oh and if your wondering about a door heres the other side of the room.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/LiveingRoomAnew.jpg)
Just drawing a lamp is NOT adding light, but actually I think that the lighting is not too bad. When seeing the room as a whole, there's some overall lighting, and that should suffice.
It looks good, and I still like the idea of having the different sides of a room. The crack in the telly looks quite natural now, so I'd say you can consider this a good, solid background.
If anything, I think the angle on the telly table should be a bit lower. You can achieve this by moving the upper border a few pixels down.
Undated
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/LiveingRoomBNEW-3.jpg)
This is the back hall both sides tell me what i can do to make them better.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/Backhall1A.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/Backhall1B.jpg)
hi, well i look at your background and i can see so many things that can do with improvement.
Im no backgroubnd expert by any means but...
1. There are so many clashes in technique, some pictures on the wall are pixelled and then the other is anti-alaised, eg; the pic of the castle to our left compared to the skeleton or mummy to our right. The cracks look unconvincing.
2. there are so many colours in this background that are usless, why dont you try and begin with, say, 15 colours, it would be easily achievable!
This would also discipline you to control the amount of colours you use and it won't give you the chance to clash in terms of anti-alais.
3. The colours you have chosen are far from the most effective, i can see that your palette is all over the place in terms of saturations and hues, try and choose your colours wih more thought for the overall background. for example; the cabinet the tv is resting on is distinctly a different colour to what seems like a wardrobe(?in a living room) if the colours of the cabinets have more relation it would be more pleasing to the eye.
4. The sense of depth in this scene is scattered too precariously, you have perspective all messed up, for example; look at the wardrobe to our right and the book cabinet on the floor to our left, one has depth the other lacks any whatsoever.
5. Lighting is none existant, you should really ditch the poor gradients on the walls if you want to achieve convincing lighting. The gradients clash on both left and right of the walls.
6. I would suggest starting from scratch. Begin with lineart first of all and then progress from there, instead of cutting corners with cutting and pasting, really spend time on correcting all perspecting and layout before you colour it in.
There are alot of things in this bg that i could nitpick about but i will refrain fom doing so as i feel i have given most of the advice you would need to improve this background.
Good Luck!
although my criticism was a bit full on, i only intend on motivating or pushing you to try harder and end up with better results.
In the long run, you will learn far more by doing everything from scratch, it is the only way to improve, learn the basics and build on the solid foundation.
Anyway...
I put a bit of work in to help you, feel free to do how you wish with this image. ;D
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7260/liveingroombnew3pq7.png) (http://imageshack.us)
I have basically started the Background with a center reference point, i am learning from this myself as I have never tried to make rooms like this, all i go on is theory (and even in theory I'm not well read...yet)
There is the minimum amount of colours to start with and if you wanted a smoother transition between the shades, simply add more colours or dither.
What i will say though is that I feel the point should have been higher.
It's a basic example for you that's all.
If this has helped you at all, im happy.
Goodluck!
Thank you for all the help people.
Here is a repaint
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/LiveingRoomBNEWTest-1.jpg)
Illustrous I'm going to use that sample to help me make new back grounds.
In game shots
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/scrnshotnew.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/scrnshotnew2.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/UpperBackRoom1new.jpg)
I dont know what to do. The oil Barrel on the right looks like crap and the window dosent look right to.
Need some ideas to and what else could i add to this room.
New update minor. Still needs major work.
BETA
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/scrnshot-1.jpg)
Looks like you just copied and pasted from screenshots of Maniac Mansion. For one, you could try using a graphics program to actually draw your own artwork. As well as that, you shouldn't be making 3 threads in C&C, asking for help with your backgrounds. If you have more than one background that you need help on, put them all in one thread, and if you have pre-existing threads with backgrounds for C&C in them, post your new ones in those threads. I've seen your posts before, and you turned one C&C thread into a warzone. Please follow my suggestions!
I've merged your posts since these backgrounds are all for the same project and all posted within a short space of time. Please do not clutter up the forum, use some good judgement and lump your artwork together so people can help you in one place. Also, I think you need to start actually listening to the help offered here if you want to make some headway, such as drawing the rooms yourself without pasting objects in.
Another thing, are you loading these images into AGS as jpegs? If so you are impeding your own progress with these backgrounds since this format is artifacting and smoothing out your images.
Example:
(http://members.cox.net/progzmax/rubacantex1.gif)
Don't do your art in lossy jpeg formats, go with png or gif. Don't post jpegs of low-resolution art here, use png or gif. I hope you read what I'm writing very carefully because I've been patient with you in the past and you don't seem to be listening. Most importantly, stop moving to new bgs for critique before you have a chance to finish even one!
There Bitmap image i think photo bucket makes them jpegs
I uploaded a gif to photobucket and it left it as a gif, so unless it specifically converts bmp to jpeg to decrease filesize I don't know what the issue is. What you can do is download a program that converts formats like irfanview (http://www.irfanview.com/) (it's also an image viewer). Convert your bmp to a gif (or png if it has more than 256 colors) and upload it to photobucket, that way we can see how the background will appear in your game instead of an artifact-filled blurry mess :). Also, this isn't a tech thread so if you have problems converting don't post them here, just pm me instead.
Back ground in gif format
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/UpperBackRoom1show.gif)
Still cant see it to well
I will do a in game shot
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/scrnshotn2.gif)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/scrnshotn3.gif)
Rubacant, I am finding it hard to put any effort into helping you if all you do is simply disregard the most important things that are fundamentally wrong with your backgrounds.
Why don't you actually try to improve the backgrounds rather than mash them up with cut and paste items, which in the end results in something that lacks any real substance. It is clear to see that you don't intend on taking peoples advice.
1. Search for old threads where people have taken C+C that actually improves their backgrounds.
2. Recognise that if you continue to disregard good crit and insist on ripping all the objects and things to create your room, you will not only lose respect of fellow forum members but you will actually lose out on valuable tips to aid your progression.
My last suggestion- scrap all backgrounds that you have ripped and use them more as a reference, there are so many errors in all the backgrounds you have posted that I wouldnt waste my time pointing them out to you (And many already have been), only for them to be disregarded.
I will have no further part in commenting on these backgrounds. :-X
My backgrounds are like this cuz im trying to keep the style of Maniac mansion. I know my back grounds still need lots of work and thank you for all the help so far.
Heres some Backgrounds form Maniac mansion.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/WohnzimmerMM.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/Kaminzimmer.jpg)
Rubacant, are you really completely unable to see the differences between the MM Deluxe shots and your own?
Look at the original backgrounds and aks yourself the following:
Do they contain
-harsh gradients?
-ugly, asymmetric objects that don't fit the perspective?
-grainy, resized, obviously items ripped from elsewhere?
-eye-hurting inconsistency of lighting?
-angled picture frames containing non-angled pictures?
-ugly, eye-hurting bevel filters?
I don't think so.
I don't think he wants to improve his art because he thinks that when we say negative things about his art, or even give him constructive criticism to him, that we're attacking him personally. I've seen his posts in Beginner's Tech/Technical Forum and he ignores what people say in there too. Another thing Rubacant: If you're making a MM sequel/remake or whatever, why don't you use your own sprites instead of ripping them from MM deluxe?
I don't think he wants to improve his art. Where did you get that from????
And what about maniac mansion mania. There not 100% all that good and need a lot of fixs to.
Concerning Maniac Mansion Mania, we're not talking about other people's stuff here, just yours. Why would you even use that as an argument? What other people do with their games doesn't have anything to do with what you're doing. "But theirs is worse!" isn't an excuse.
Also, where Steel Drummer might have gotten the idea that you're not even trying to improve your art, is quite simple. You posted that greenified background here already (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=29131.msg371035#msg371035). That was almost a year ago, and that specific background is still the same. All the advice you got back then has been ignored completely. If you still don't understand why people are wondering whether or not they should even try to assist you, take this as a hint.
If people give you advice, try to work with it and listen to it. Don't just ignore it and keep asking the same questions over and over (concerning the same backgrounds, even).
First off
This is the old Background I deleted all the old ones from Photo Bucket andi gess the new one pop in that place on the old post
Old one
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/Backhall1B-1.jpg)
you're not even trying to improve your art. Yep no improves here and That was almost a year ago, and that specific background is still the same. All the advice you got back then has been ignored completely.
are you making this up.
New one
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/Backhall1B.jpg)
If you didnt see it a year ago dont post about it.
Whats the Subject anyway Hmmmm Old Background How Should i make it better. Hmmm OLD it says OLD
If people give you advice, try to work with it and listen to it. Don't just ignore it and keep asking the same questions over and over (concerning the same backgrounds, even). WHAT ???
I did the fixs that they told me about. What questions do i ask ????.
I was using Maniac mansion mania as a example.
And when did i ignore anyone here. Do you see the paint overs i did.
Like
This
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/LiveingRoomBNEW.jpg)
to this
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/LiveingRoomBNEWTest-1.jpg)
All the advice you got is ignored completely. Yep
You people are never happy and if i did repaint it all over you still would not like it.
I'm not posting any more pics here.
You didn't really change any of those backgrounds, you just changed what was in the picture frames, essentially. It doesn't matter if you post any more, because you seem to be ignoring our advice, and you hardly change the backgrounds after months of us telling you how to improve them. I'm sure there are a few people who gave you suggestions for improvement about the perspective in all of your backgrounds- did you take their advice? No, you just threw a hissy-fit at them and flamed at them for criticizing your art. You need to learn to accept criticism, and until then, I suggest you stop posting your material, and read some other peoples' C&C posts to see how they handle criticism.
Tribes 2 mod
A man who acted noobish for all his life, torturing other users, not listening to advice, and doomed to wonder the universe, seeking but never finding the answers he so desperately craves in.... THE AGS ZONE!
( I mean what is up with "Tribes 2 mod" that is the worst single post I've ever seen in my life. My English teacher would beat you over the head with a frozen ham.I mean it doesn't even have a verb!)
If you can't post respectfully don't post in this forum. This goes for everyone. I can personally see that he's made some effort to improve so I think some of you are just being bandwagon-hoppers. I will not tolerate slamming people in this forum, I hope that's understood.
If you have nothing constructive to offer DO NOT POST HERE.
I hope that's clear.
Rubacant, you're welcome to continue posting your work to this forum but Illustrious has made a good point. You should look at your work so far and then at some of the perspective help you've been offered here (there's a good deal of it) and see if you can see what we do. I pointed out that the drum was out of perspective in the image I posted, but if you don't understand why things look out of perspective then you should say so, that way I or someone else can make it clearer to you.
The blue wall definitely shows some improvement, but when I say it's too dark I'm saying the individual colors in your gradient are so close together as to be virtually indistinguishable. This makes them redundant. When you design a gradient there are a couple of key factors you need to take into account:
A) Is it necessary (this is the first thing you should ask yourself)?
B) Does it have a pleasant color distribution (ie, are most or all of the colors in the gradient easy to the eye and does it clash with the rest of the room)?
C) Is lighting an issue (if you want to properly light a room you absolutely must light the gradient with respect to the light source(s), otherwise it looks odd)?
D) Does the style of the gradient fit the surface (noisy gradients work fine for stone but don't look great for wallpaper)?
Taking some of this into consideration I made an edit that may help you see some of the problems in the image.
1. Corrected perspective of walls, door, window and barrel using the white vanishing point at the top.
2. Reshaded the wall with a less rough looking and lighter gradient.
3. Reshaded most of the room, getting rid of the gaudy black outlines.
4. Added shadows below the sconces, just to the right of the barrel and to the right of the curtains, creating a better sense of depth.
5. Redrew a simple barrel that better fits the room perspective.
6. Removed the other pictures and the clock because they were too blurry and looked odd.
(http://members.cox.net/progzmax/rubacantex2.gif)
This shows the vanishing point lines.
(http://members.cox.net/progzmax/rubacantex4.gif)
I did not fully light/shade the room for the two sconces. You can assume there are light sources on the ceiling or you can darken the areas farthest away from the light sources to create a proper sense of shadow. I also did nothing with the metal door aside from make it stand out against the wall and I did not detail the doors aside from drawing them with the vanishing point in mind (they are also rather tall compared to the center door). The barrel also needs work. I didn't do much with the wood panels aside from shading them around the doors, so those need work also.
Have a look at this and try following the vanishing points in the gif to see exactly what I did.
Edit:
One more thing to consider is the sudden change of material and color from the back wall to the sides, even though the perspective is right this causes the room to look like the left and right walls don't 'fit'. To fix this I did a really quick and dirty example of carrying the back wall panelling around. This makes the walls look much better, so try and avoid walls that have different textures in one room.
(http://members.cox.net/progzmax/rubacantex6.gif)
Yes ProgZMax has made a great edit in terms of showing you what you need to do to achieve a nicer looking background.
Get to work and let's see what you got! ;D
DO you think im having a hard time cuz im using Jasc paint shop pro. DO you think theres a better Free program I can use.
Well, the program doesn't make you better, but some things might be easier to handle, say layers for example with a good program, even though you can do masterpieces even with mspaint :)
I havent used paint shop pro, but if it's an easy program to use, then I say stick to it, if you're fluent with it, theres no need to complicate matters with a new program. Once you've reached the point where you find yourself wanting more advanced features, then a new program is advised.
Here is a start of the wall color is this better
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/UpperBackRoom1newtest2WG.jpg)
I having hard time with gradients. I cant get a good gradient effect going and get them spredout more
Yes it looks fine. Pay attention to my entire post because fixing the perspective should be your first priority.
Ok, i have said I have given up commenting in these backgrounds but i will go back on my word.
Whats a minute here or their of my opinion to try and help someone.
Paint program
It shouldn't matter which program you have if you have learnt the uses of all the tools, whatever paint program you use, study the documentation that comes with it to learn most of what there is to know. A shortcut by diving in makes learning how to use things properly a very difficult thing. Equally, search for 'jasc paint shop pro tutorials' or similar on google to find tips and tricks...
With your new edit
The fact of the matter is, you have simply applied a gradient effect to a wall. The end product is predictable.
To improve this background you must first go back to basics and fix problems with the perspective. Right now you have far more important things to worry about than a gradient on the wall.
The corners of the floor is a problem for you, take another look at ProgZmax's edit and study what changes in the animation he put up. He fixed the perspective. ;)
EDIT
Posted to find I've pleasantly happened to reiterate 'Perspective'
Paint Shop Pro is just fine; I'm using version 7 and it's perfect for stuff like those backgrounds.
Btw, the Maniac Mansion Deluxe backgrounds (which the ones in this thread are based on) don't strictly follow one-point perspective. As long as objects don't look horribly off, they can safely invent perspective.
Heres a new updated version working on the side walls and perspective. I did copy and paste and door and window just for a start off fix. I didnt want to copy and paste and whole background. I all so tryed to redraw the barrel still need major work.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/UpperBackRoom1newtest2WG-1.jpg)
I added the middle door and lamps having hard time adding light effects to them. Started on the clock Basic outline. Is this the right perspective for the clock.
New version
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/UpperBackRoom1newtest2WG-2.jpg)
I think one of my major problems is perspective. I just dont see perspective to well. Is there a web site i can see perspective templets.
So one background at a time starting with this one.
Hey, Rubacant. This place is where you put stuff to be critiqued. It's (in my oppinion) harsh sometimes, but it's better than never improving. Here's an idea. IM me at fouridragon@hotmail.com I can tell you about a little art theory and that kinda thing, I'm not good, but I've read and understand what has to be done... Besides I am looking for buddies here on AGSforums.
Okay, remember than if I sound harsh, it's for your own good. I like the background you're going at, even though Maniac Mansion style sucks hardcore, in my opinion.
I made 3D version of this room to show you how lights work. Also, in 3D, perspective is almost always right.
Look here.
(http://www.increator.pri.ee/i/critshelp/maniac.png)
See, in your room, you have 4 lights and also there could be light coming from window. I didn't simulate light bouncing off walls and floor, but simpler version of lighting is still visible. Around the lamps, everything should be lighter and brighter. Also, brighter sides of things must be those that face wall lamps, not any other.
The labels I added to image are what you need to pay attention to, if you want to get atleast some quality in your shading.
If you want people to edit your backgrounds, save them as PNG format, not JPG.
Why? Because JPG compression ruins pixels.
The clock is not right. It's at the center of the room, so we shouldn't see it's right side, or atleast not that much. Maybe only a tiny pixel, not two. Why isn't clock face round? This is abnormal.
The light bulbs inside light cast shadows mostly downwards (actually down, left and right), why did you make shadows go right I don't know. Simply pull shadow down a bit more, and less right.
Your barrel is not cylindrical shape. Watch my barrel, it's a cylinder. Your barrel looks more like it's been smashed with a sledge hammer. That is so because it's too wide, making it narrower will fix the problem. Why do you need a metal barrel at the end of the corridor anyway? Who keeps gasoline or oil (that's what metal barrels usually contain) inside house?
Since the lamps and windows are on room sides, the middle part should be darker. Though realistic lighting isn't quite the style you're using.
All questions end with an question mark (?), like
- How should I make it better?
- Is this the right perspective for the clock?
Paying attention to your grammar also helps with paying attention in life overall, so noticing how things look like and memorizing details. You have probably no idea how much it helps to draw better!
Quote from: Rubacant on Thu 20/09/2007 00:55:19
I think one of my major problems is perspective. I just dont see perspective to well. Is there a web site i can see perspective templets.
I think Prog's edit with "vanishing point lines" should help a bit. Also check the Tutorial Redux (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=32133.0) for further info, for example, dkh's tutorial (http://www.freewebs.com/mini-tutorial/) is a good start.
BTW, increator, shouldn't the asterisk the '*' symbol? '?' is the question mark.
I won't say any more in this thread, but I have one last suggestion for you, Rubacant. Don't post every single background you've made in this thread, okay? It seems like you've done that. Just take people's suggestions from one background and try to apply them to your other backgrounds.
QuoteBTW, increator, shouldn't the asterisk the '*' symbol? '?' is the question mark.
Oops! Yeah it should. "Ask" and "asterisk" kind of blend in my old brain. Anyway, fixed post.
I try to fix the barrel and fixed the clock. And added a few other things.
And thank you for all helping me. I think its satring to look better.
Update
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/Test-1.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/scrnshotupperback2.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/scrnshotupperback.jpg)
I tryed to post it as a gif format but it did't show up in the post?
The barrel perspective is off (it should be tilted upwards more - less of the lid showing) but the rest is looking very promising. The clock in particular shows effort, and that's what it's all about!
For the barrel you could try something like this.
Draw a box in place of the barrel using perspective. Try to make it as wide as it is deep (not very easy). You should end up something similiar to this:
(http://bantza.raah.fi/junk/boxskets.png)
Notice that there is a square at the bottom of the box and at the top of the box. On those squares you could try using methods described here (http://studiochalkboard.evansville.edu/lp-circle.html) or here (http://www.drawingcoach.com/1-point-perspective.html) to draw a circle in perspective. It's a bit difficult with so few pixels around, but maybe you could try it first in bigger scale and then try to replicate the results in smaller scale.
And when you have two circles in perspective, just connect the circles and you get a barrel.
You can also use InCreators 3D image to see what the result should look like.
1. Here's the first floor of the mansion from the latest version of the Maniac Mansion starter-pack:
(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5356/explrubacantby4.png)
(edit: this is by no means a completed background; just meant to show the original look and the floor gradient)
I erased the staircase's railing, then redid the ground using three simple steps in PSP7:
-create a suitable gradient in a second window
-scale it to match the area (I decreased the height to about 50%; circle -> oval)
-add ~20% of uniform noise
2. As I've told you, perspective isn't too important here:
(http://www.maniac-mansion-mania.com/images/stories/episoden/episoden/e03.gif)
The desk is off; so is the bed and the monitor. But it doesn't look totally off. It's just fine.
3. A circle will always "stay a circle", perspective-wise.
The first tutorial zabnat posted is plain wrong, the second is a bit better but still using a method that's really only suitable for drawing by hand.
A circle must always be drawn as a perfect ellipse. No matter where the vanishing point is or at what angle the original circle is displayed. (If you don't believe it, pick up a CD and look at it from all angles ;))
To draw a barrel, use the ellipse tool and switch it to vector mode. Draw a few of them, gradually increasing the height from top to bottom.
Make sure their left and right edges are alined, merge the layers, done.
(4. And please do us a favor and put a little more effort in your written word.
Wouldn't the thread's title look better like:
"Old background - How should I make it better?")
Updated Background. I tryed to fix the barrel. It still dose not look right. I will redo it agian. I changed Frame Colors and i think they look better. But the rotten dum barrel looks smathed agian.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/UpperBackRoom1newtest2WG-4.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/scrnshot-2.jpg)
ANd sorry stil not showing up on page has Gif.
Try removing the barrel from the room, drawing the wall behind it and then use those lines to help you shape the barrel. Save the background without the barrel separately in case you mess up (or if you have layers draw the barrel on a new one). You can make the rough shape of the barrel with perspective lines much as you would a cabinent or something. The only difference is you have to work inside the lines to round the shape. I made a quick barrel using approximate perspective lines from my original example, try pasting this over the the spot where the barrel is and using the perspective lines from the vanishing point in my example to see if you can draw a box around it. When you do this stuff enough you'll be able to reasonably guess this sort of thing, but since you're struggling why not save yourself some trouble and use the perspective lines to create the general shape so you don't have to?
(http://members.cox.net/progzmax/rubacantbarrel.gif)
Thank you for the help.
You said you want me to copy and paste and barrel you made to use or copy and paste so i can use it has a base.
New Back Ground
I fixed up this back ground with some of the same rules. But I'm trying to make a chair and I'm really not happy how it came out.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/UpperBackRoom2NEEDHELP-1.png)
BTW this is the other side of the room that i was working on before.
ITS PNG NOW
Please, for the love of whoever, save and upload your images as Portable Network Graphics (*.png), not artifact-riddled jpgs.
FIXED
I fixed the Chair. What do you think of it.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q301/Rubacant/UpperBackRoom2NewC.png)
Let's try this again. You can either:
A) Ignore perspective completely and just draw the room however you want. This works for some people.
or
B) Follow perspective using vanishing point lines to draw the room and furniture.
Doing a mishmash of both results in something awful, so decide now if you want to pay attention to what I've been trying to show you with drawing rooms in perspective or whether you just want to draw the rooms freehand. This is important because the parts of the room you took from my example and the parts you are adding in now clash because mine are following the vanishing point and yours aren't.
(http://members.cox.net/progzmax/rubacantex4.gif)
Take a really good look at this. Don't immediately try to copy it or turn out a quick edit but really look at what I'm showing you here, it will help you (honest!). Pay careful attention to how on the right side of the room (which I drew) the vanishing lines match up with the curtains, the top of the window, and the bottom wall line. Note that on the left wall, which is essentially just a flipped edit of the right, this does not work. Why? Because the vanishing point is closer to the right wall than the left, it is not centered in the room and therefore the distance to the left wall is longer, making the wall skew more. The tentacle painting is likewise off perspective, the bottom of the frame most of all.
Pay careful attention to how I drew a really basic table and chair over yours using the vanishing point. Pay attention to how their angle varies with respect to the point (the closer they are the lower their angle with respect to the viewer until items directly beneath it appear head-on).
I would like for you to redraw the table and chair using this vanishing point and then display an edit with the vanishing lines and the vanishing point marked clearly on your image. This will tell me that you are listening to what I am explaining and that you understand it. I've included a copy of the image with the vanishing point marked for you to work from (it is the yellow pixel at 343,1). If possible, draw the chair and table in a location other than where they are right now so I can see how well you understand perspective lines.
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I tryed to fix the bottom of the picture and is dose not look right. I will post background soon.