Perspective help

[Alynn]

Ok I had things going smoothly with everything until I ran into a small snag.

First I had this room created, which is all well and good.


Well then later on I created this room.


After I was finished I realized that the well should probably be visible in the first room I posted. I'm just having a hell of a time figuring out where exactly it should go, and how big it should be. At one point I was wondering if I had the trees too close to the camera in the first picture, and I should move them back some first.

So anyway The far left corner of the barn in pic one exactly corrisponds to the barn wall to the far right of pic 2. So in game space, they are the same corner.

Can you give me a hand on figuring out where the hell the well goes, or should I just move the trees back on the first room, or both?

EDIT: On a side note, maybe moving the well in toward the barn a few pixels may be a better and easier solution.

Thanks ahead of time.

[ManicMatt]

Your welcome. 

[Khris]

I drew some helplines:


The well's distance from the barn is about the same as the height of the barn without the roof, and it's a bit closer than the barn's highest point.



Now I drew the same lines into the first pic. The distance shrinks from ~145 to ~80, so the well has to be roughly half as big.

BTW, the roof in the (my) lower pic is as high as the front wall, while in the upper pic it's much lower.

[Alynn]

Thanks Khris, I'll have to try that tonight, I don't know why I didn't think of doing comparison lines (however at the time of this posting I can't see the first pic just FYI, but I have an idea of what you did).

I think I see what you mean about the roof as well. I don't think I took into account where the new vanishing point was from the front view (not shown here) from the top of the roof. So just eyeballing it for now, about the 4th or fifth tin row up on the roof should be the top of it?

Ya think maybe?

[Khris]

Going from the other room, the roof would be barely visible, just a few pixels of it.
So I'd make the roof higher in the side view. I would look better anyway if the edge of the barn isn't exactly at the edge of pic.

[Alynn]

hrm... in that case I'll have to adjust the far picture away from the barn, as present the peak of the roof is the same height on both the left to right as well as the T section coming up front. In other words all the peaks are equal, the left front view uses the same heights from the close front center view.

So what I did was take a page from your book.... On the well pic the roof to wall is 49 pixels high, the height from that point to the bottom of the wall is 144 pixels, roughly a third of the total height. The front view wall height is 125 pixels, making the roof height about 41 pixels...

Now that still means I had to bring the peak up farther on the well page, but not nearly as much as I had to without dropping the roof some, In other words, I hit a happy medium where it mathmatically works, but it also feels correct to me looking at it.





You like better as well no?

EDIT: Ok I finished the well and pipe and machine portion as well, it turns out that a very tiny corner of the pump shows up, but anyway appreciate the help as always.