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Title: Pixel version of E.M.H.does it look right?
Post by: lo_res_man on Tue 21/02/2006 23:25:26
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/emc.gif)
this is a pixal version of the famed EMH from Voyeger. what I want to know is how good a copy it is. paintovers and such are welcome, plus any crits you care to give. thanx in advance.


[EDIT]
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/emh.gif)
Heres a edit I did based on all your input.(ActuallyÃ,  just Ashen's, it was the only responce I got before I had to log off) rip it to shreds! thanx for all the input from everyone on the other sprite.btw he is ment to be angry
Title: Re: Pixel version of E.M.H.does it look right?
Post by: Ashen on Tue 21/02/2006 23:31:46
I'm not sure, but his forehead looks too bulgy to me. Compare it to his IMDb headshot (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000585/), which looks to be the same angle. Also his philtrum (the line between his nose and top lip) seems too obvious, which makes his mouth vaguely feline looking, IMO. Sorry I can't offer a paintover to show what I mean.

Otherwise, it's very good - I'd definately have recognised him.
Title: Re: Pixel version of E.M.H.does it look right?
Post by: frankenberger on Wed 22/02/2006 00:26:20
I've done a quick and shoddy paintover but I don't know if it's any help at all...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/frankenberger/emcpaintover.png%3Cbr%20/%3E)

On reflection, now he just looks angry. And perhaps a bit more ordinary.

In any case, your version is very good. Totally recognisable.  :)
Title: Re: Pixel version of E.M.H.does it look right?
Post by: Redwall on Wed 22/02/2006 00:30:29
I'm not a ST fan and I recognized the actor from his Stargate appearances, so you're definetely on the right track. :)
Title: Re: Pixel version of E.M.H.does it look right?
Post by: Kweepa on Wed 22/02/2006 00:42:53
I love the pixelcraft.

Here's my take:
(http://www.kweepa.com/step/ags/critics/voyagerdoctor.png)

- longer nose
- squarer forehead
- bigger ear
- less angry (I don't remember the doctor ever being that angry)
- flatter mouth
- less tilted head

The eyes aren't dark enough but I wasn't sure how to acheive that.
Title: Re: Pixel version of E.M.H.does it look right?
Post by: MarVelo on Wed 22/02/2006 02:28:42
Very nice, still not sure that the forehead is right. Looks like sort of a butt no offense intended just stating my opinion.
Title: Re: Pixel version of E.M.H.does it look right?
Post by: Ptraci on Wed 22/02/2006 07:16:14
The doctor is totally recognizable, you did a great job ^_^

I tried to do a quick paintover, but I don't know if I changed too much of it:

(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8922/emc5nu.gif)

I liked frankenberger's longer pupils so I've tried to keep them.
Title: Re: Pixel version of E.M.H.does it look right?
Post by: Nine Toes on Wed 22/02/2006 11:01:29
IMO... I'd take one of the last two edits before yours, Ptraci.  Nothing personal, its just:
1.  It doesn't quite look like EMH.
2.  It looks more like some grumpy mexican guy.
Title: Re: Pixel version of E.M.H.does it look right?
Post by: Ptraci on Wed 22/02/2006 11:41:24
That's why I said I might have changed it too much. I widened the face a bit, to see if that could help with the forehead problem, but obviously it didn't keep the original feeling. He sure looks grumpy, but... mexican? XD

Title: Re: Pixel version of E.M.H.does it look right?
Post by: Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens on Wed 22/02/2006 16:13:06
I blame the failure of this sprite on my hatred for Voyager!

What I did:

1.  Increased contrast and added another skin tone for Picardo's permanent 5 o'clock shadow.
2.  Redrew the face based on this reference photo:
http://www.startreklives.de/crew/images/emh.gif
3.  Made neck wider and longer.
4.  Decided not to make him cross eyed as in the photo.

(http://members.cox.net/progzmax/emh.gif)
(http://members.cox.net/progzmax/emh.gif)

Hope it helps.
Title: Re: Pixel version of E.M.H.does it look right?
Post by: lo_res_man on Wed 22/02/2006 23:22:14
Thanx everyone for the input, it has helped a lot!
Thanx again!
Title: Re: Pixel version of E.M.H.does it look right?
Post by: Nine Toes on Thu 23/02/2006 07:48:34
Quote from: Ptraci on Wed 22/02/2006 11:41:24
He sure looks grumpy, but... mexican? XD

Yeh, just put a sombrero on him, and you'll see what I mean. ;)
Title: Re: Pixel version of E.M.H.does it look right?
Post by: Ptraci on Thu 23/02/2006 09:37:14
(http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7778/mexemc3fm.gif)

He's like a mexican Sean Connery now  ;D

Nice edit, lo_res_man, the forehead looks more natural now. I think he should't be cross eyed, as it gives him a distant look.
Title: Re: Pixel version of E.M.H.does it look right?
Post by: LilBlueSmurf on Thu 23/02/2006 20:15:35
Well, it may not seem like the most accurate, but for some reason, Steve's edit is the most recognizable to me as EMH.  The others just don't seem to suggest that character to me much.  I think going from steve's and editing it just a bit will make the most easily recognizable EMH sprite.  Just my 2 cents though.