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Creative Production => Critics' Lounge => Topic started by: Al_Ninio on Sat 23/04/2005 00:30:15

Title: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Al_Ninio on Sat 23/04/2005 00:30:15
Quick sketch.
15 minutes.
Corel Painter 9 + tablet.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/Al_Ninio/woop.gif)

Tips? Crits?
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Renal Shutdown on Sat 23/04/2005 02:37:09
Neenie, we both know my criticisms are pretty lame, but..

1. His right side of face seems to extend too far out to the right, as if his got some kind pf growth next near his right eye/cheek.
2. His chin seems too pronounced, as if he'sa pushing his lower jaw forward, so that his lower set of teeth a further foward than his top set.
3. Not realy a decent comment, but the shading is just white, inking and the airbrush, which ,makes his left shoulder look kinda spacky. That's not a crit on actual artwork, I'm just saying that, well.. you should know how picky I am by now.

At least this time I didn't say "this picture makes my arm feel sad".
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Stefano on Sat 23/04/2005 02:59:26
I think is good. You were coherent, in your comics style, and your drawing has dignity.
The only thing that bothered me: the eyes with the thick black border and bright iris, gives your portrait a "Siberian Husky" or evil creature look...

Apart from that, is really cool.

Edit: fixing some grammar mistakes.
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: stuh505 on Sat 23/04/2005 04:32:21
It's a very nice sketch.  I'm not going to try to nitpick details because a sketch isn't meant to be perfect in the details. 

He's got character, his eyes look a little unique...but it gives him character.  I think the pupils are a bit small and that makes them look slightly inhuman.

Keep it up
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Al_Ninio on Tue 26/04/2005 05:16:07
Thanks. :D

Here's a new one, sort of inspired by Tony Moore.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/Al_Ninio/z00sh1.jpg)
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: RyRayer on Tue 26/04/2005 05:43:06
W00t. Another cool sketch. Keep making those. I like his haircut. :=
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: InCreator on Tue 26/04/2005 06:25:52
Reminds me somehow Sims2 characters.
Ah yes, big eyes and biiig mouth.

You could still cut a bit from mouth (make it shorter), because it's nice (and cartoony) in static image, but such characters talking could look really weird.
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Al_Ninio on Tue 26/04/2005 06:31:19
The mouth is perfectly proportionate, according to Loomis. :P

But now that you mention it, he does sort of look like my sim. :o

Edit:

And here it is, rather sloppily inked (in Creature House Expression 3):

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/Al_Ninio/YES.png)
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Andail on Tue 26/04/2005 10:15:55
I made a very simple move-around-editing.

original:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/Al_Ninio/YES.png)

edit:
(http://www.nolore.com/picmisc/YESedit.png)

* moved down mouth a lot
* moved down nose a little
* moved up ears somewhat
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Oliver on Tue 26/04/2005 13:41:49
I don't like the lower face. The chin (or whatever) seems a bit odd, it's not equal at both sides. I hope you get what I mean. Or does it just seem so because the line at the very bottom isn't staright.

EDIT: Noticed that one ear is a bit lower than the other.
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Disco on Tue 26/04/2005 15:47:55
Al_Ninio - its looking better, but you might try adding a few shiny hair lines extending beyond the current shiny section.

Andail - I think the nose was good where it was originally, it looks a little too low with your adjustment. Maybe meet halfway?

I also have a little "behind the scenes" information to inspire future crits: This guy is alleged to be quite emo.
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Al_Ninio on Tue 26/04/2005 20:09:36
Andail - I always seem to misplace those ears...
I prefer the original mouth, though. Thanks! :D

Oliver - I don't really get what you're saying about the chin, could you elaborate?

Here's a quick zombie-pirate-thingy, with really quick colouring. It's somewhat gory, so I'll just link to it: [Link] (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/Al_Ninio/lolzmobiepirate.jpg)
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Oliver on Tue 26/04/2005 20:28:28
Forget about it. I think he is supposed to be like that.
Nevermind ;)

Anyway, why does he look so sad?  (I'm talking about the sketch you inked.)
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Disco on Tue 26/04/2005 21:24:10
Quote from: Oliver on Tue 26/04/2005 20:28:28
Anyway, why does he look so sad?  (I'm talking about the sketch you inked.)

Quote from: Disco on Tue 26/04/2005 15:47:55
I also have a little "behind the scenes" information to inspire future crits: This guy is alleged to be quite emo.
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Dart on Wed 27/04/2005 00:47:27
Quote from: Oliver on Tue 26/04/2005 20:28:28
Anyway, why does he look so sad?  (I'm talking about the sketch you inked.)

...because the dude is emo, maybe? :P

Awesome sketches as usual, Ally. :D Andy's edits are also awesome. Oh, and it so looks like your Sims 2 character. The hair, anyway.
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Al_Ninio on Sat 14/05/2005 15:36:23
Aaaand...
NEW SKETCH!

Portrait of a random person from another forum:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/Al_Ninio/sticky.jpg)

Critiqueeeee.

Edit: oh, and about the inked guy...
He was indeed not supposed to be sad, if you look at the original sketch he is actually semi-smiling.
It's just some subtle details being lost in the inked version, like the curvy-ness of the mouth, and the right eye being half-hidden by hair...
I admit I didn't really spend too much time on the inked version. :P
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: stuh505 on Sat 14/05/2005 19:28:22
what can I say, I wish I had your talent and I wish you were drawing concept art for the characters in my game instead of me  ::)
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Al_Ninio on Fri 27/05/2005 18:30:48
Updation!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/Al_Ninio/hobo.jpg)

Odd, I noticed they always face the same direction...
I should flip the reference pictures sometimes. ._.
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: ildu on Sat 28/05/2005 00:36:05
Friggin' nice.
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Oliver on Sat 28/05/2005 05:57:23
You're really good! You've got the talent, man! ;)
It's hard to say anything bad about these pictures.
Oh wait, he looks sad again. :P
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: What a loser. on Sat 28/05/2005 12:00:52
Can you do portraits for my game?! Haha, those pictures are just amazing. I wish I could draw people as good as backgrounds. Thats really quality stuff, love it!  ;)
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Evil on Sat 28/05/2005 21:40:22
Are we ever going to see a female? Try steping away from the shaggy haired emos. :)
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Al_Ninio on Sat 28/05/2005 21:58:10
Hehe, thanks for the kind comments. :D
Oliver: well of course he's sad, he's a hobo! ;)
And Evil, I shall work on a female soon, then... But don't expect her to be any less emo. :P
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Al_Ninio on Sun 29/05/2005 03:41:40
Well, just as I promised:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/Al_Ninio/chica.jpg)
(Yes, I did get quite lazy and covered half of her face with hair... It's almost 6 AM!)

This was a fairly quick one, done in my math notebook after studying for an exam I have in three hours... Gah.

It's the first non-digital drawing I did in a while.
Sure feels nice to draw on paper again. :)
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Babar on Sun 29/05/2005 11:43:39
scary....that looks like an old women in teenage clothes
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: Chicky on Sun 29/05/2005 11:48:41
I think the nose lets that picture down. It seems rather... manly.
Title: Re: Portrait sketch.
Post by: loominous on Sun 29/05/2005 16:03:43
Some modifications:

(http://marcus.krupa.se/AGS/tl.gif)

Some things making her look old:

I) Long face

II) Pointy chin

III) Lack of eyelids

IV) Random lines in the face giving the impression of wrinkles. The smoother the face, the younger

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Some other things:

I) Her ear is set very low for the headtilt.

II) Her eyes looks odd due to the linethickness of the lower line. The upper line is usually much heavier due to more eyelashes, shadows from eyelashes/eyelid, eyelid and eyelashes blending.

III) Make sure you make the iris round and the pupil centered. The eyes are the most important facial features to get right since we tend to focus on them and any oddities will be noticed immediately.

IV) I'd avoid small, seemingly random lines in the face. They tend to just make the pic messy and distort the face unless carefully applied.

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General thing:

Pretty much all heads in this thread have perspective/shape issues. The best way to counter this imo is to do a proper headcontstruction a la Loomis. This will steadily increase your mass understanding which won't only aid you in drawing heads but any objects. The head is a complicated shape and if you master it you should be able to draw any shape properly.

The better understanding you acquire the less you have to lean on these constructions, so if they bore you, think of it as a step that you'll gradually get past.

In any case, it's looking better n better, hope you keep posting these.