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Creative Production => Critics' Lounge => Topic started by: Dualnames on Mon 24/05/2010 23:46:44

Title: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: Dualnames on Mon 24/05/2010 23:46:44
Well, after that background blitz entry:
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q53/JustLedZep/na11111ycopy.png)

This was a lot of fun, and yes it has like 4 million flaws, but it was my first attempt at such style, and people actually liked it. Which is great.
So here are some few.

A title screen. I know it's a swastika, but please focus on the art side.

(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q53/JustLedZep/showcommunity4.png)
A room. Entrance of a train station.
I'd love to know if it's appealing, and if you would play a game like that. Also some edits or points would be more than welcome. Those are my first attempts so be gentle.


Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: Calin Leafshade on Tue 25/05/2010 00:08:36
they are beautifully atmospheric backgrounds man.

But I wonder if you'd be able to make a sprite 'fit' into that style.

They would work very well for a 1st person game though.
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: Anian on Tue 25/05/2010 00:19:23
Didi you draw this over photos? The first pic seems to be in a bit of a different style to the 3rd one and different resolution.

Yeah, what C said,  might have trouble putting in sprites there.

I like the 2nd one, looks cool (art part ;) ).
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: Igor Hardy on Tue 25/05/2010 00:49:26
It's a swastika!

But when I focus just on the art style I can see it's super-atmospheric.
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: DrewCCU on Tue 25/05/2010 01:02:49
im not a fan of the first background (for the contest entry).

and the swastika was just a swastika in my eyes ... nothing special. (although it did look like a cool swastika ... if swastikas can be pronounced "cool")

but i do like the third one a lot.  However it looks too desaturated - which i understand is part of the style but what i guess the biggest problem for me is the light source. it seems like you want light to project through the doors into the room ... but i dont think theres enough contrast between what's being "hit" by the light and what's not ... it almost looks like the image is wrapped in cellophane ... if that makes any sense to you?

all in all - good art though.
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: Dualnames on Tue 25/05/2010 01:12:45
Quote from: DrewCCU on Tue 25/05/2010 01:02:49
I'm not a fan of the first background (for the contest entry).

and the swastika was just a swastika in my eyes ... nothing special. (although it did look like a cool swastika ... if swastikas can be pronounced "cool")

but i do like the third one a lot.  However it looks too desaturated - which i understand is part of the style but what i guess the biggest problem for me is the light source. it seems like you want light to project through the doors into the room ... but i dont think theres enough contrast between what's being "hit" by the light and what's not ... it almost looks like the image is wrapped in cellophane ... if that makes any sense to you?

all in all - good art though.


I don't like the first bg either. And well a swastika is a swastika.


I doubt it, but is this an improvement to that Drew?
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: InCreator on Tue 25/05/2010 10:58:43
Swastika is not the issue.

I'm somewhat undecided on first bg and absolutely love the third.
HOWEVER, it's a bit too blurry.

With such realism, I'd expect a bit more detail. Door is very well done, but wall panels mix too much and overall feeling is like painting left into rainfall.

If feels like desktop wallpaper -- designed to blend in -- gives lots of ambience, but has no "face", no anything to particularly "look at"... That's what is missing! This isn't a wallpaper, it's not supposed to be faceless.

Add little details, shiny and sharp doorknob, thingy here and there and you have a perfect result. You have perfect canvas, now add content!

(I hope my point came through this messy brick of text)
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: Anian on Tue 25/05/2010 15:43:23
LOL, swastika is gone. ;D
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: Dualnames on Wed 26/05/2010 06:03:46
Quote from: InCreator on Tue 25/05/2010 10:58:43
Swastika is not the issue.

I'm somewhat undecided on first bg and absolutely love the third.
HOWEVER, it's a bit too blurry.

With such realism, I'd expect a bit more detail. Door is very well done, but wall panels mix too much and overall feeling is like painting left into rainfall.

If feels like desktop wallpaper -- designed to blend in -- gives lots of ambience, but has no "face", no anything to particularly "look at"... That's what is missing! This isn't a wallpaper, it's not supposed to be faceless.

Add little details, shiny and sharp doorknob, thingy here and there and you have a perfect result. You have perfect canvas, now add content!

(I hope my point came through this messy brick of text)

Great points there InC!

I'll definitely work on what you said! Though I fear I'll probably not manage to.
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: Dualnames on Thu 27/05/2010 20:34:22
Sorry for the double post.

...Oh god, it's so hard for me to pick one.

First
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q53/JustLedZep/showcommunity.png)
Second
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q53/JustLedZep/showcommunit6-1.png)
Some update, and also Photobucker banned my swastika image.
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: NsMn on Thu 27/05/2010 20:38:30
Even though I prefer having "the real thing", I'd recommend censoring the swastika by, for example, replacing it by something familiar.
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: Igor Hardy on Thu 27/05/2010 22:37:19
Quote from: NsMn on Thu 27/05/2010 20:38:30
I'd recommend censoring the swastika by, for example, replacing it by something familiar.

I'd propose a pink pony... with its eyes gouged out.
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: InCreator on Fri 28/05/2010 18:00:33
Quote from: Dualnames on Thu 27/05/2010 20:34:22
Sorry for the double post.

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Some update, and also Photobucker banned my swastika image.

I fail to see ANY difference
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: Igor Hardy on Fri 28/05/2010 18:31:51
I preferred the older, brighter version of the third screen.

Where has the big swastika gone to btw?
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: Dualnames on Fri 28/05/2010 20:17:41
Banned by photobucket. Update on my previous double post, so guys can compare.
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: Chicky on Mon 31/05/2010 19:29:01
Hey Dual, how's this?

(http://i48.tinypic.com/34fh4ps.png)

Bit of CC, limited palette and a diffuse glow. Needs cleaning up a bit and is quite dark  :=
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: InCreator on Tue 01/06/2010 13:11:40
Prettier, but much less practical. For a cutscene, at best.
Glow kills rest of the room, you cannot look elsewhere much.

If on original your eyes mostly scan right wall and surroundings, here - the light is only thing to see.
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: Chicky on Wed 02/06/2010 14:48:02
Sorry?

Dualnames seemed to like it, why don't you make an edit and show us how it's done InC?
Title: Re: Probably wrong, probably stupid, probably awful, but I need to know
Post by: Dualnames on Wed 02/06/2010 19:25:30
I liked some things on it. For certain I'd reduce the glow cause InC is right.