Rooms, a sprite, and a demo...

IM NOT TEH SPAM · Sat 27/08/2005 03:18:44

My first and favorite room...
(my older brother made it for me on Photoshop)

Next is the intro room, i made on Microsoft Paint...

The inside of the main character's house, made with The Gimp.

The game is about a goose who's a superhero to the other ducklike animals. He will have to destroy several monsters with simple quests and eventually an evil giant villain.

Scummbuddy · Sat 27/08/2005 03:24:43

If you are posting several shots (chars, bgs) for a game, use the same thread.

And the interior shot with the fire... wouldn't you rather not draw that in, and then have an animation of it running, on top of the background. It would make doing that a much easier task.

And if it's Goose Quest 1, typically, you don't see someone write the "1". its just implied.

Gilbert · Sat 27/08/2005 03:31:26

Hehe I'm fine with the 1, though most games don't have a 1 in their original releases, remakes often added a 1 awkwardly to their name, so in my opinion I won't care whether there's a '1' in the name.

IM NOT TEH SPAM · Sat 27/08/2005 03:37:42

things like the fire and the '1' are trivial, I'll fix them later or redo the entire room for all I care. I just want to know what you think of the art work.
And sorry about the two different topics, I didn't know what to do about it. Should I just put the sprites on this topic and leave the other one?

Ozwalled · Sat 27/08/2005 15:17:14

I think the "1" is funny. I'd keep it.

PyroMonkey · Sat 27/08/2005 15:30:42

The first one is the only one I really like.
To be honest, the last two look really messy and rushed.

Corey · Sat 27/08/2005 15:48:44

it looks like that duckie is not suppose to be there

Ozwalled · Sun 28/08/2005 01:19:01

having had another quick look at the first pic, the path seems like it's sort of floating on top of the grass layer... Maybe kave bits of grass growing up through the dirt, or make the edges of the path more stronly defined or something.

IM NOT TEH SPAM · Sun 28/08/2005 01:51:34

Thanks for the criticism...
The first pic was made by my older brother on photoshop, in about five minutes. The rest were mine, made on microsoft paint in about three hours :

But I'm going to send the files to my older brother's computer so he can photoshop them, and hopefully make them look less messy. I tried to use the free program The GIMP to make it look good, but so far all attempts at a better home for the goose have messed up horribly. I might redo the entire interior over again, because right now I'm not that happy with it. I hate the marble bench and I think I'll redo the fire like scummnuddy said...

IM NOT TEH SPAM · Mon 29/08/2005 20:24:33

EDIT: This will show newer version-- the one used with Photoshop

Here's a room I made using The Gimp and Microsoft Paint. In a few days I'm sending it to my older brother to photoshop it and make it blend in with my characters. It's not done yet, so things like paintovers will be very helpful. I plan on making torches around the room, and possibly moving around the showcase to the mantle (but first I want feedback on the design)

Ozwalled · Mon 29/08/2005 21:06:56

If the picture's of the bird is supposed to be hanging straight, the perspective is grossly off, to the point that it aggrivates me. Try making the front and back lines more or less vertical and re-start that part from there.

Also, the mantle thing isn't great -- as it stands, it looks like it's painted onto the wall. It's a common beginner's mistake. Try giving it some depth and extending it out from the wall, and it'll probably look a lot better.

That Guy · Mon 29/08/2005 21:43:10

I'm with Ozwalled. I'd also like to mention that the picture frame on the right is also off, with regards to perspective - the 3-D part of it seems to droop downward. Otherwise it's proportioned correctly.

That said, I love the character. A super goose. Hehe. Does he vanquish foes with his Honk of Justice?

His perspective's a little odd, too - the rearmost eye is a little too far up and to the right, which makes him look more like a flounder since the main view of the character is straight-on from the front. Ditto the rear leg.

Otherwise, hang in there! It's a great idea for a game and a solid character concept.

IM NOT TEH SPAM · Mon 29/08/2005 21:59:40

As I mentioned before, I made this using my two least favorite art programs: Microsoft Paint and The Gimp... I'll try to fix the fireplace and the goose picture, I'm about to send the file onto my other computer so i can Photo-shop it. Be back in about 2 hours!

m0ds · Mon 29/08/2005 23:42:27

The first background is nice, King_Nipper - but as the others have said there is a perspective problem in the interior room background. The left hand side and right hand side of the picture should fall along the same vertical line as the edge of the walls, and then I believe the bottom and top part of the picture frame should be at a degree angle. I don't know the specifics but a bit like this;

Things that are closer are obviously bigger. Everything falls to a "point", too - but it will take a legend like Helm or any other critic here to explain that to you, because I don't understand the theory behind it - but I understand that it works

IM NOT TEH SPAM · Tue 30/08/2005 00:43:14

The start of the photoshop-ed version, soon I'm going to fill the room with some chairs or trophies just to fill up space.

EDIT: I made another version of the room, taking your advice mods... but I can't get the picture to show the new version.

InCreator · Tue 30/08/2005 00:56:43

I second others --
The main problem is - and will be - wrong perspective.
Ignoring the problem won't make it go away.

If we'd say that you drew your floor absolutely right, the carpet, fireplace and painting are totally wrong and should be more like this:

But I wouldn't recommend so deep perspective anyway, It helps to plan your rooms before hardcore texturing and detailing. This way, you'll find out problems before it's too late/wasteful to correct them.

On such small room, the ceiling should be visible! And perspetive in that case, drawn correctly, of course.

BTW, I love your usage of colors. They're calm and appealing.
Amount of detail even in such empty scene is an amazing thing aswell.

IM NOT TEH SPAM · Thu 01/09/2005 16:04:00

Here's going to be the shape of my next attempt. I already begun coloring it in, and my older brother spent a good hour with me making sure the perspectives were all correct... and I think it's gonna be much easier on me now that the painting is hanging correctly

voh · Thu 01/09/2005 23:37:43

If these perspectives are indeed correct, I have an annoying feeling that Cthulhu is up to tomfoolery again!

It confuses me soÃ,Â

IM NOT TEH SPAM · Fri 02/09/2005 00:44:03

I just want to say that you all have been a great help. :

People like m0ds and InCreator have actually TRIED to help me improve this picture, where as you voh are simply being rude and sarcastic in a way that makes me upset. First off you only measure the bookshelf from the bottom, not every damned shelve. The chair is sitting on an angle, it's not straitfoward. That means you don't measure the perspective from the pillow or the top, because it might as well be an object I add in later in AGS. You could at least TRY to help out rather than trying to make my first attempts at a game on AGS look like they were made by a feces-throwing monkey on cocaine. This is my first attempts to make anything with an art program, aside from those random scribble-marks i made on the computer when I was four. Please take me seriosly. I was quite proud of myself when I first thought I did something RIGHT with that stupid MSpaint program, and just because I was wrong doesn't mean you can trash my work.

voh · Fri 02/09/2005 01:20:14

Woah woah woah! No need to go off the deep end on this.

You mentioned you and your brother had spent an hour on getting the perspective right. There's been so much talk on how to improve the perspective that I thought I'd see how correct the perspective actually was.

I apologise for the sarcastic streak - but it wasn't intended to insult you. I suspect Cthulhu of tomfoolery at least twice a day. He's a scheming one, that elder God, he is.

But seriously - yeah, the chair perspective isn't integral to the perspective of the whole thing. All the other perspective lines are, however. And there's like, 900 vanishing points. You can focus on the way I said it - but you can also focus on what I said. Content over form.

Whether I did all the shelves or just the bottom and the top doesn't matter because the shelves in between are just that - inbetweens. It's the general shape of the thing that matters - and that's top, bottom and the sides.

If I were to translate my previous post to "I don't think the perspective is correct at all...", would it make a difference? Because quite obviously - the picture shows all that without me needing to explain.

Gah. Once again, apologies for the sarcasm. But I urge you to look into how perspective works and such, because it's quite an important thing to get right. If the perspective of a background is off, it usually makes it look pretty crap. Just fixing the perspective usually makes the difference between crap and quality

Just a positive little addition. Your work isn't crap. Your work isn't horrible. It's just not done yet. Keep at it and you'll get there. My intentions aren't as horrid as it may have seemed.

_{P.S. "feces-throwing monkey on cocaine" hehehe, that made me laugh :p}