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Creative Production => Critics' Lounge => Topic started by: Nikolas on Wed 14/09/2005 11:42:32

Title: RPG Background + GUI C&C please!!
Post by: Nikolas on Wed 14/09/2005 11:42:32
Ok! My first Game Ever! ;D

Well it's a rpg, with adventure ellements. Thus the buttons at the button (Get, Drop, Use etc...)

The space next to the command is for the object to be shown when the cursor is on the object: eg. you want to get a sword. You press get (It's shown depressed). You move the cursor over the inventory. Depending which item is under the cursor, the item is shown next to the get command. So if you click, you will get : sword (I hope it makes sense)

The inventory is bellow the icon of the character.

Bellow that is the memorize spells, and the buttons for the three spells the character can memorize.

I'm pretty happy with it (I trust my instinct but again I'm not artist, not by a longshot so...)

The map is from a dungeon, you start the game locked up in.

Any critique, absolutly any, is welcome.
Cheers,
Nikolas

PS. The shadows are not completly, but I'm not happy with them really...

Small Edit: You see everything from above...

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/try.jpg)
Title: Re: RPG Background + GUI C&C please!!
Post by: Stefano on Wed 14/09/2005 16:56:00
It's a jail dungeon, right? With all the cells and iron bars (casting shadow on the floor). I think it's really cool! I would keep adding shadows and I would darken the whole scene (suposing this is a dungeon). As it is, looks like it's receiving a nice homogenic sky light.
Shadows will bring the walls and doors up and push the floor down. In the current state, one might think the walls are some floor pattern or something.

The GUI looks cool to me...

Can't wait to play the game!
Title: Re: RPG Background + GUI C&C please!!
Post by: Corey on Wed 14/09/2005 17:44:57
it looks really hard to draw shadows in this view coz there isnt any window and it would look silly if you just made a light spot on the floor
Title: Re: RPG Background + GUI C&C please!!
Post by: Nikolas on Wed 14/09/2005 18:08:17
You know, my first game, my first background, so I'm watching pretty close to this thread...

Stefano: Thanks, I will put shadows, and definately darken the whole map, cause as it is it's just "happy".

Corey: Well, none of the bar doors can be opened and the only light is a torch the character will be carrying. Hopefully I will be able to show, only part of the map, depending on where the character is. So when inside the cell (3rd from the bottom, right hand corner), the player will only be able to see the cell and a little bit of the outside, in front of the door. When the character gets out, he will see most of the corridor, or so I hope it will work... :)
Title: Re: RPG Background + GUI C&C please!!
Post by: LilBlueSmurf on Wed 14/09/2005 20:08:59
You could always add torches or some other kind of artificial lighting in order to get a source for your shadows.
Title: Re: RPG Background + GUI C&C please!!
Post by: Nikolas on Fri 16/09/2005 15:31:24
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/try1nikolasideris.jpg)

Well I put in the torches and the shadows, as best as I could, I added the Rest button, cause it was much needed :D and the things in every cell are the toilets. You can intercat with them!!!!

I changed the character icon slightly... and the whole thing is darker, as it's supposed to be in a dungeon...

Any C&C welcome...

Thanx
Title: Re: RPG Background + GUI C&C please!!
Post by: nihilyst on Sat 17/09/2005 01:05:29
Your character icon really should have two legs. Also, I would separate the Load/Save/Quit buttons from the others.

cheers
nihilyst
Title: Re: RPG Background + GUI C&C please!!
Post by: InCreator on Sat 17/09/2005 01:52:29
I second that. Also, the barely readable font won't match with such simple buttons, so either change the font or do some graphics.

Overall, it's nice and an AGS RPG makes me very curious.
Title: Re: RPG Background + GUI C&C please!!
Post by: Nikolas on Sat 17/09/2005 08:52:20
I will seperate the legs and the Load Save Quit buttons, that's correct but the font?

I love this font. Does anybody else think it's unreadable? Should I change maybe the colour (it's kinda sick now but on purpose...) or I need to change the font?
Title: Re: RPG Background + GUI C&C please!!
Post by: Helm on Sat 17/09/2005 10:00:14
right now you've got a lit tilemap thing going for you. Since ags doesn't currently support tiled artwork without much trickery or a gui of some sort, I assume you're assembling these in some paint program and importing them as backgrounds. That's really wasteful as far as space goes, so if I were you I'd customize every screen so it's more distinct and doesn't look like a collection of tiles. Think Dreamweb or something of the kind. fake the 'overhead rpg' thing, but also make the backgrounds look like adventure game backgrounds.

The lights were a step in the right direction. Draw debris on the floor, chains hanging, pieces of metal and rocks, moss, a skeleton or two...

don't mind the font at all.
Title: Re: RPG Background + GUI C&C please!!
Post by: Nikolas on Sat 17/09/2005 10:33:23
sorry but I don't know what dreamweb is. A game? A program?

True, I used Ultimate Paint for most things and ArtGem for the lightning and shadows...

It is a dungeon and this is why it seems so tiled. It is architected that way. The character won't be in a dungeon all the time. There are outdoors, a village, the land of the dead, some caves, which hopefully won't be tilled at all. and every screen will be distinct enough! (again hopefully...)

The details to add are a good idea, but I don't know how to draw a chain hanging, since I'm in an overhead view... Any suggestions? How else can I save space, regarding the BG?
Title: Re: RPG Background + GUI C&C please!!
Post by: Nikolas on Sat 17/09/2005 22:25:45
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/try2nikolasideris.jpg)

ok. that's what I've done so far. I've added various details (chains, rocks, dirt and water). seperated the Load save quit buttons, a bit, cause i like having every button down there (besides, the original GUI from AGS has all buttons together, i think? ? ? )

I really like the font so I didin't change it, and Helm told me that he didin't mind so...

The legs, I have to think about it, but they will probably change, it's just that I'm full right now...
Also added the stairs, which look a little lame, but can't figure out what's wrong.

If everybody thinks it's about fine, then let me leave this thread and CJs' bandwith alone. Again of course every coment is welcome...

Helm: It's still tilled, but I think I'll stick to that, since it is a dungeon jail thing...
Title: Re: RPG Background + GUI C&C please!!
Post by: MarVelo on Sun 18/09/2005 00:26:39
love the GUI! It reminds me of the GUI in A D&D Darkmoon.
Title: Re: RPG Background + GUI C&C please!!
Post by: InCreator on Sun 18/09/2005 04:12:46
About font: I don't think that it's unreadable, at least not in fullscreen - and not crappy JPG.
Just pointed out that complexity of font doesn't quite work with these boring buttons, so you could add a bit of texture/similar to buttons too.
Title: Re: RPG Background + GUI C&C please!!
Post by: Stefano on Sun 18/09/2005 06:07:10
Try adding more contrast between your light/shadow areas:
(http://www.stefano.mega.nom.br/stefanoTry.jpg)
(I've sent you a PM about this...)