Right now I'm working on a new game which I aim for release before Christmas because it's a Christmas game. I have a little bit of trouble with Santa's wife.
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Mary_Claus.png)
The one to left of Santa is the one I'm going to use for the game. The others are the original handdrawing. As you can see the original is not straight so that's why it's still there. Anyway, I have a little problem with what kind of footwear she should have. High-heeled doesn't fit for her character, which is sort of a kind grandmother, and I'm not sure if she should have boots like her husband. What kind of footwear do you think I should give her?
Apart from advice on shoes, I'm open to other critics, so just tell me. Note: Let's focus about Mrs. Claus and forget about Santa, ok?
I am not willing to forget about Santa.
(http://www.grundislavgames.com/shake-claus.jpg)
(http://www.locustleaves.com/Mary_Claus_elephant.png)
Hello Matts.
(http://custardsclutter.com/Mary_Claus.png)
Helm: Hope that the "not forget about Santa" thing was a joke. By the way, having a pair of elephants doesn't fit her, sorry.
Grundislav: Haha, very funny! I thought for awhile that the forms of the breastlines and the sticking out tummy looked a bit like a face but I never expected that someone would notice it, least joke about it. Ã, :D Oh well.
Privateer Puddin': Say, that must be Santa's boots that you used for your paintover. Maybe the boots isn't so bad idea, except that they're too big.
(http://www.locustleaves.com/Mary_Claus_banana.png)
this any better?
I agree Custard's shoes are possibly a little large, perhaps mine are ok? Not sure about the colour.
(http://caverider.com/Mary_Claus_shoed.png)
Why not just make her barefoot?
(http://www.grundislavgames.com/feet.jpg)
Well, I guess she wears shoes for a reason...
(http://www.esseb.com/temp/mistress_santa.png)
How about this?
(http://www.locustleaves.com/Mary_Claus_stump.png)
this? Just brainstorming and all
Scotch: Nice try but the shoes and the feet are waaaaaay too small, like MI3 Guybrush. Besides they tend her to not look so grandmotherly as I intend her to be.
Helm: Sorry but that won't do. Can't just do some more normal footwear instead of those extreme kinds?
Grundislav: Let me ask you this: Would you walk around on the North Pole barefeet? At least I wouldn't.
Esseb: Too kinky.
Ok then how about this?
(http://www.grundislavgames.com/tentacles.png)
(http://www.locustleaves.com/Mary_Claus_mouth.png)
?
I think a couple of these are a bit fanciful, I think someone sop far north would probably wear more traditional inuit type clothes:
(http://caverider.com/Mary_Claus_2.png)
(http://www.esseb.com/temp/missantatnassim.png)
Keep it simple, I agree.
A friendly grandma type would surely wear something simple. like these slippers:
(http://www.grundislavgames.com/cameltoe.png)
Mine is the most funniest and the most original!
(http://img449.imageshack.us/img449/8643/santaswifepaintover8oi.gif)
(http://www.locustleaves.com/Mary_Claus_fridge.png)
Or maybe this is more what you are looking for
(http://img449.imageshack.us/img449/7595/santaswifepaintover20ix.gif)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/manicmatt/Mary_Claus.png)
Grundislav: Hmm... your latest one is much better than the extreme shoes and I think it will work but I would like to keep the skirt and maybe not having that wide legs but it's not bad, never the less. Well, it works pretty well indoors, since Mrs. Claus spends a lot of times indoors through the whole game.
Pablo: Your boots look good. I think I could use those... but not the mermaid tail, it won't work.
ManicMatt: The shoes could be good but the legs are way too tall.
To everybody: Okay, that's enough of the funny paintovers! It was funny to begin with but now it's getting pretty stupid. From on now, please, only give me serious paintovers and start give me critics, ok?
Ok, for serious now. (http://caverider.com/Mary_Claus_plimsols.png)
I think that this is the funniest thread ever!
Mats: I can't believe that you keep on answering to all of them...
(http://www.esseb.com/temp/missantajet.png)
Miss Santa should be able to get around quick also.
Hey, Esseb, you should've edited the hat so she would look like a rocketgirl.
Anyway. This thread is really gettin silly.
Some real critic...
Shoulders, face, hair, hat, arms, shoulders and legs on Santa and his girl need Ã, work. I suggest you find a tutorial about drawing the human body, using some pictures as reference and maybe try shading. Then you may wanna start from scratch... or not. Right now they look flat. And I mean FLAT! You need to work more if you want your work to progress. Seems you allways make the same mistakes.
Haha, Esseb. I laughed really loud for that one. :D
I love this thread.
One more! Mrs Claus needs protection from the whiny kids!
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/manicmatt/Mary_Claus2.png)
(http://dasjoe.de/Mary_Claus_.png)
Quote from: Esseb on Tue 29/11/2005 21:12:02
Miss Santa should be able to get around quick also.
She'd never get to her yoga classes on time otherwise.
(http://www.bicycle-for-slugs.org/mrs_yoga.png)
It seems that it is up to me to return sanity to this thread, and so...
This christmas the oompa loompas will have no cheer, for the Grinch in all his grinchliness is here...With Santa delivering presents another year it will be up to Mrs. Claus to save Loompaland and melt the Grinch's icy heart with happy tears!
Featuring Rankin-Bass style buck teeth!
(http://members.cox.net/progzmax/msclaussavesloompaland.gif)
HAHAHA these images should be put on the credits screen at the end of the game!
Hahahahaha! Aren't we supposed to help the guy?
Sorry for the out of topic, but I wallways thought that ManiacMatt was the new screen name of Matts Berglinn... Coincidence in some vowels and same painting style. Are you thinking in work together guys?
And... Sorry for not helping, dear Berglinn.
Okay okay! While I'm being silly everywhere else, these boots are my serious attempt at helping. Although they need to be bigger.
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/manicmatt/Mary_Claus3.png)
Farlander: But his name is Mats, not Matts!
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/LD_smehic.gif)
SHE was hungry :P
(http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/9519/grams1gu.png)
There's something odd about that Grandma Clause...
QuoteTo everybody: Okay, that's enough of the funny paintovers! It was funny to begin with but now it's getting pretty stupid. From on now, please, only give me serious paintovers and start give me critics, ok?
Ok, he played along and it was really funny but he asked nicely to stop. Thanks
So Mats who is THE WINNER ???
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/skeith2572/claus2.png
Thought i would help out. I added a little bit of holly on the stocking feet, just to add to the atmosphere.
This is a serious attempt, not a joke attempt.
Mr. Colossal: Thank you. The thread was getting out of hand.
Domino: Ah, now there something I could use. The shoes are really Christmasy which really fits for the game's theme.
Farlander: That's why you all must know that's my name is Mats Berglinn, not Matts or whatever you have called me wrong. And also, I wouldn't consindering chaning the forum name, I like it the way it is.
Krylis: Thanks for the critics but I'm not in the mood for start from scratch because I need the game finished before Christmas and I still got lots to be done even if I had a good start with the process. I will work further on Mrs. Claus with help of your critics though. Again thanks for the critics.
Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha.....ahhhh
Seriously, I haven't laughed this hard since Dane Cook's Tourgasm. I think we should turn this into a weekly contest: Re-invent Mrs. Claus' Feet/Footwear. Or it could at least be a sprite jam. That would be such a great hit.
As for the sprites Mats (I put it in bold so everyone can see I spelled his name right, since this seems to be a very important thing to do) originally drew, I think he makes them flat on purpose. It looks much closer to DOTT style this way. ;)
Since this seems like a lighthearted game to begin with, you should keep Helm's elephants-as-feet. That would make for an awesome in-game joke. Like they could obviously be there, but with no explanation and all the characters purposefully overlook them.
Stop worrying about the shoes and get the game done. Otherwise, you won't get it ready for the holiday season.
This thread was really spontaneous and that is what makes it great. It all developed so fast. You had to be at the time on the forums to be in it.
A true AGS classic.
Should be moved to Popular threads, or at least have some kind of credit so it isn't forgotten.
Quote from: big brother on Wed 30/11/2005 15:27:09
Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha.....ahhhh
Seriously, I haven't laughed this hard since Dane Cook's Tourgasm. I think we should turn this into a weekly contest: Re-invent Mrs. Claus' Feet/Footwear. Or it could at least be a sprite jam. That would be such a great hit.
If you really want it, go ahead. I don't mind. ;) Hehehe.
QuoteAs for the sprites Mats (I put it in bold so everyone can see I spelled his name right, since this seems to be a very important thing to do) originally drew, I think he makes them flat on purpose. It looks much closer to DOTT style this way.Ã, ;)
Thanks for showing them, Big Bro, you're a sport! :) Don't you think it's annoying that many say your name wrong even though I've been in the forums for three years? For the sprite-style I'm actually doing my own style rather than the DOTT style but I'm working on shading and other ways to make them less flat.
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Since this seems like a lighthearted game to begin with, you should keep Helm's elephants-as-feet. That would make for an awesome in-game joke. Like they could obviously be there, but with no explanation and all the characters purposefully overlook them.
Sorry but that's not my kind of humor, the same goes with the rediculous paintovers and ProgZmax bizzare game idea. Why not do those ideas by yourself? This is not an angry saying but a tip to you guys.
Ildu: Don't worry, I have already choosen the shoes for Mrs. Claus. It's going to be Domino's shoes (the paintover, not
his actual ones). But maybe not just use them directly but sort of tweek them out a bit (hope you don't mind Domino but if you do, just tell me. You will be in the credits none the less).
Mmmm. A person with a page devoted to funny games should be less easily annoyed... Come on... it's just a T. :P
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Ildu: Don't worry, I have already choosen the shoes for Mrs. Claus. It's going to be Domino's shoes (the paintover, not his actual ones). But maybe not just use them directly but sort of tweek them out a bit (hope you don't mind Domino but if you do, just tell me. You will be in the credits none the less).
Hey not a problem. Good luck with the game. I did rush them a little bit, but with a little more time, they will look pretty good.
Shawn
Mats:
I think it's quite funny that you complain about people writing your name wrong, only to write "Krylis" in the paragraph underneath. :)
(When it should be obvious that Krysis = crisis.)
Quote from: khrismuc on Wed 30/11/2005 18:40:24
Mats:
I think it's quite funny that you complain about people writing your name wrong, only to write "Krylis" in the paragraph underneath. :)
(When it should be obvious that Krysis = crisis.)
Its cool. People allways make that mistake couse L is so close to S on the keyboard. Hehe... Just being sarcastic. Peace. :)
Hahaha I laughed my arse off on the first page of this thread, magical! :)
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/Mary_Claus2.PNG)
Here's the newest edit. I know it's not many changes on the body but I'll fix that later because I'm try out different kinds of shading to make Santa and Mary less flat. I just show you to see if the shading looks right or at least get in the right direction. Oh and I also improved Domino's shoes and added some socks (even if Santa's castle is quite warm inside, it can be a little bit chilly without socks).
khrismuc: Oh, I didn't notice that until now, I thought it was krylis because I read too fast each time. But I bet that krysis does misspell by purpose... right, krysis?
Mary's breasts look a little too pert for old-lady breasts. How they were before was fine.
You do realise that their feet are at 90 degree angles to their bodies?
I feel this works better
(http://custardsclutter.com/Mary_Claus2.PNG)
Here we go again!
*Was going to draw a bust on santa but couldn't be bothered*
You might want to concider changing the 'face' on granny her chest.
The breasts and her big belly look kinda weird to me. I'm not in a position to do a paintover, but try removing the hard dark lines and try to make shapes with shading.
I would also change Santa's hair a bit. His head is almost a perfect triangle! ;)
good luck!
Quote from: Becky on Wed 30/11/2005 22:08:35
Mary's breasts look a little too pert for old-lady breasts.Ã, How they were before was fine.
You do realise that their feet are at 90 degree angles to their bodies?
About the feet, yes I'm aware that they don't look right but that's because it's hard for me to draw feet from the front without looking wrong or silly.
n3tgraph: Good suggestions. I'm not sure if you're aware of it or not but the face wasn't anything delibrate, it's just happened as I drew it in Paint. Now that you say it Santa does have almost a triangle shaped head.
You certain about the shoes? Otherwise I was going to suggest clogs, similar to this one:
(http://podiatry.curtin.edu.au/images/klomp.jpg%3Cbr%20/%3E)
The ones she has no reminds me more of socks...
Santa is Finnish, not Dutch! :) And take out the droopy and perky breasts. The buxom under the apron should make a slight line, and most likely wouldn't have such a shadow that is now present.
Quote from: Farlander on Wed 30/11/2005 16:43:10
Mmmm. A person with a page devoted to funny games should be less easily annoyed... Come on... it's just a T. :P
I don't Mats is really really annoyed. After all, he is an AGSer, and we AGSers do know how to take a joke.
WHAT DID YOU SAY? WHO DO YOU CALL CSAR?!!!!
:=
Anyways, what's happening Matts Berglinn...
Quote(the paintover, not his actual ones)
oh right oh ok got you haha