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Title: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: arj0n on Sun 30/03/2014 15:25:55
As I'm sure there are still some things 'off' in my BG, I'd really like
to receive some feedback on it so I might be able to improve it a bit more.

[imgzoom]http://tdepaus.home.xs4all.nl/arj0n/AGSBG/Island2b.png[/imgzoom]

Thanx.
-arj0n
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: JoshuaSmyth on Mon 31/03/2014 01:56:45
That's a nice looking SCI style background.
I think it's totally usable as-is, do more! :)
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: arj0n on Mon 31/03/2014 09:46:04
Thank you, sir :)

And yes, I'm working on more bg's.
Here's another one, it's supposed to be a secret passage:
[imgzoom]http://tdepaus.home.xs4all.nl/arj0n/kitchen%20between%20room2.png[/imgzoom]
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: abstauber on Mon 31/03/2014 10:36:56
Great EGA artwork, could be right from Colonel's Bequest :)
As for the first bg: the trees in the upper part of the image are very present and are dragging the viewers attention away from the main object in the center. So I would avoid the black shape and try a lighter color tone.
The fog itself looks convincing, but it's always behind the tree shapes. You could try to blend the fog into a few trees.
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: arj0n on Mon 31/03/2014 11:58:44
Quote from: abstauber on Mon 31/03/2014 10:36:56
Great EGA artwork, could be right from Colonel's Bequest :)
Yep, I used that heavily as reference.

Thanx for the suggestions, Abstauber.
Will work them out later.
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: miguel on Mon 31/03/2014 13:28:37
Great stuff Arjon, I find it really hard to do pixel backgrounds.
The 2nd is top quality stuff.
The 1st one is good as well but you could improve on some details.
Besides what abstauber said:
On the first background I would also put some size reference near that door/gate. A window or a wooden sign stuck in the ground, just something to point out that the bunker is actually a man-size building and not a small entrance.
Looking closer, maybe the gate could have more iron bars, it looks like a person could just slip in.
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: arj0n on Mon 31/03/2014 14:16:59
Thanx Miguel,

Will take your points in consideration.
And yes, the gate could use some more bars and with less distance indeed, now you mention it.
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: arj0n on Tue 01/04/2014 22:02:22
A small update.

Made trees in background less prominent
Added a sunken little row boat
Made the bunker higher

[imgzoom]http://tdepaus.home.xs4all.nl/arj0n/AGSBG/Island3.png[/imgzoom]
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: on Tue 01/04/2014 22:19:16
Quote from: Arj0n on Tue 01/04/2014 22:02:22
A small update.

Concerning "usability": what's the walkable area? It seems it has too be thing (maybe too thin) to me?
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: Anian on Tue 01/04/2014 22:49:03
Maybe add some details to the bunker? So it's not just a hexagonal cylinder. Like side supporters, pile up some dirt on the bottom of the walls etc.
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: Matti on Wed 02/04/2014 12:12:10
This is a very nice scene. I don't really like how you did the cracks on the walls though (especially the lighter ones on the front wall) so I played around with the surface of the bunker.

[imgzoom]http://i.imgur.com/HTCrjtF.png[/imgzoom]
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: miguel on Wed 02/04/2014 12:14:22
Looking really nice now.
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: Gribbler on Wed 02/04/2014 13:34:52
Quote from: abstauberGreat EGA artwork, could be right from Colonel's Bequest
My thoughts exactly. Looks like ripped stright from that very game. :) Great stuff.
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: arj0n on Fri 04/04/2014 22:24:57
Thanx for all the feedback and tips!

Changed:
[imgzoom]http://tdepaus.home.xs4all.nl/arj0n/AGSBG/Island6.png[/imgzoom]


@bici: walkable area should now be better
@Anian: still have to work out your tips adding some details to the bunker like side supporters and piling up some dirt on the bottom of the walls etc.
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Sun 06/04/2014 20:49:04
LOVE the style!

I think the brown trees in the far background should be made lighter in some way (the brown in them still pulls my eyes up there instead of the intended area).

Here is a quick idea:

(http://i.imgur.com/QbDT2NU.gif)

Just makes them lose focus a little and keeps the eyes on the important parts (or the parts I think are important!)
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: arj0n on Wed 09/04/2014 16:16:33
@Matti: your 'cracks on the walls' version is very nice. It was on my list to change it, my version was a quickly done one. I keep your version now :-)
@Darth: using lighter trees is indeed way better, thanx! And yes, 'the parts you think are important' are correct :)
Title: Re: The Old Tower BG (feedback)
Post by: arj0n on Sun 13/04/2014 15:52:10
Worked on another one, a scolling bg.
Any feedback is appreciated.

Full:
[imgzoom]http://tdepaus.home.xs4all.nl/arj0n/AGSBG/lighthouse8b.png[/imgzoom]

320-200 view:
[imgzoom]http://tdepaus.home.xs4all.nl/arj0n/AGSBG/320-200.png[/imgzoom]
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: dactylopus on Mon 14/04/2014 02:10:56
The new one looks great.  I would suggest perhaps some variation to the dithering patterns on the edge of the lighter spot on the ground.

Nice work.
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: abstauber on Mon 14/04/2014 08:03:31
Two thing come to my mind:
1)
Maybe you could add some more details to the tower? If it's meant as a prison, you could add a cage on the outside. Or maybe a little balcony, a flag pole (with or without flags), some spikes, a chimney.. anything to make it more interesting would help.
The tower should also cast some shadow on the water.

2)
Structures like the platform in the foreground are usually surrounded by some other boulders and shallow water parts. Also try to add some smaller rocks at the edges of the platform. To improve the contrast between the walkable area and the water, you could also try to add a highlight.
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: arj0n on Wed 16/04/2014 19:04:22
Thanx for the information abstauber & dactylopus, much appreciated.

Here's my attempt to add more detail to the tower.

[imgzoom]http://tdepaus.home.xs4all.nl/arj0n/AGSBG/lighthouse9test.png[/imgzoom]
Still got to add the shadow(s) once that part is done.
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: on Wed 16/04/2014 20:25:43
Incredibly nice!
I think that the more the windows are near the 'edge' of the tower, the less wide they should look.
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: arj0n on Wed 16/04/2014 21:11:47
Thanx, and you got a point there :)
Title: Re: Small island with bunker BG (feedback)
Post by: Ryan Timothy B on Wed 23/04/2014 22:06:21
I'm having issues with your water. How's this? (I used old image, it was easier to edit)

(http://www.bryvis.com/entertainment/other/agsf/clounge/arjonwater.png)