I will create a parody on stargate, here is Jack O'Neall
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/jacksg1.jpg)
what do you think...
He's missing a nose...
and his left foot doesn't support him standing.
But apart from that, this is a very well drawn character.
Good job!
he has a mose :D a little "lighten" spot betven eyes and mouth :D
Nice character!
Three things bother me (after I used google image search)
- his arms seem too short. I'd lengthen them two or three pixels
- his mouth seems too low on his jaw. I'd move it up a pixel
- his name's O'Neill :)
- it looks like he's out in his socks. Maybe some detail to the boots?
Ok, that was four things.
I think you're using far too many colors to draw him. For backgrounds, it's ok to use gradual changes in the value of colors to shade, but with characters (especially ones you plan on animating) it's much more efficient to reduce the number of colors to a point where you can make him look crisp and sharp.
You should avoid using airbrush, dodge, burn, soften, and smudge when working with pixel art. I guarantee you that a sprite with hand picked colors will look much more distinguished.
P.S. Did you paint over Boston Low from The Dig?
Well i played DIG over half year ago, but i remembered Boston Low , so i draw him from my memory, especialy legs, i know boots and those "pants" dark diagonals are very familiar to those Commander Low had.
ok here is the whole bunch..
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/sg1.jpg)
I took some of your advices....
I did not reduce colors , yet, but i draw teal'c head only with 4 different, in will try to reduce pants and jackets later...
I would think there would be some gold symbol over Tilk's(however you spell it) forhead, but superb job so far. Keep up the fantastic work.
With the new characters (Teal'c and daniel in particular) is their shoulder's position. they seem too flat and rigid, resting too high on their chest...try and just lower the shoulders. anyways, these look excellent, can't wait to see your final product
Sam looks a bit blokeish. IN the series shes quite petit. bigger breasts. always bigger breasts
huh i forgot the golden sign in the forehead, i knew something was missing :D
About breasts, well, you can't actually see them trough thick jacket... maybe a little..
I will look in to the shoulders.. :D
EDIT:
ok i made Jack in low colors and front position..
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/jack1.jpg)
Very good! I especially like the shading. But, as you already know, it's very hard to animate with that many colors.
Try saving the sprite as GIF or PNG, this board and AGS handle those well.
I suspect JPG is to blame for the still too many colors of your front view.
I did a quick paintover:
2x(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/jack.png)4x(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/jack.png)
front view:
-lowered ears
-changed collar & shoulders
-made him look a bit more relaxed (arms)
-slightly changed (his) left hand
angled view:
-slightly altered jacket's waistline
-again changed collar & shoulders
-relaxed arm(s) here, too
-turned head to match feet
PS: You don't have to resize the pic to show it bigger, simply use [*img width=112 height=160] (without the * of course)
hey thanks, your adjustements do look better, as for the color part, main bod (jacket and trausers) actualy do not use a lot of colors, i use about 5 differend for trausers only, maybe JPG format change it :S i have all originals keept save in paint shop pro format... As for head, i don't think it is necesary to reduce colors there, because head will not move much when walking , except when he ll talk, but that is not very hard to do anyways...
I count colors in my original picture(PSP9-format), it uses only 69 colors (background and face included) and i took even closer look i found some very similiar colors,, which canot be seen as different until you use ZOOM.
And i opened my JPG picture, i published here, it has 1334 colors, must but just side effect for saving in JPG.....
EDIT (later :D ):
Ok I changed the pics, i used only 4 different colors for legs (+ 4 for the darker leg)
I saved in GIF format, as i see there are no changes in colors,... ;)
* it s easier to resize in the PSP, as here typing the command, but thanks anyways and picture is not very long..
All pictures use less than 70 colors.........
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/common2.gif)
Ok, I guess actions speak louder than words.
Your original, low-contrast sprite features a whopping 63 colors, even after your reduction. I took the liberty (and a half-hour, so bear with any minor mistakes) of redrawing the same character. My version sports only 12 colors, which I use very efficiently to render into a high-contrast sprite.
2x zoom
(http://herculeaneffort.adventuredevelopers.com/upload/files/common2.gif)
See if you can spot the differences.
I like the dark contrast of your sprite, however it no longer looks like Teal'c and theres something wierd about his far leg.
But the work looks great so far.. I myself was going to do an SG1 game... I guess not anymore.
Hey it looks great, but reminds me of tuvok, from star trek voyager :D
here are side profiles...
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/cside1.gif)
Necro, why ? You can do it, more SG-1 games, better...
here is you teal'c more teal'c ish, big brother
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/supaduper.gif)
Quote from: Sektor 13 on Wed 02/02/2005 13:11:37
here is you teal'c more teal'c ish, big brother
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/supaduper.gif)
Woow! I love that last one [the left one]. But it seems to be a bit unballanced to me...
Are you going to do them that way?
big brother drew that one, i just make a little modification...
No i will not do tham that way >:( But i will make a little modifications, as a notice that i must use colors that differs more from each other, i already immproved teal's heands...
I think you should bring in Samantha's waist a bit, and on the side view I think you could make her just a tad bustier.
Bringing in the waist would give her a bit more of a feminine curve, right now she's treatening to look more like a young boy.
Very good work overall though.
Bah, that doesn't look like Teal'c. Your sprite isn't frowning. ;D
More seriously, why is Teal'c in a tanktop? They haven't done tanktops until the past two seasons or so, and that's mostly for attracting more female viewers. ::)
what is tanktop??? ;D
I liked your originals so I went back and played with them a bit, mainly to make the faces more defined (for animations), although I tried to give them more varied builds and poses as well.
(http://members.cox.net/veradin/common2.gif) (http://members.cox.net/veradin/common2.gif)
..well they all have black t-shirts and teal'c tanktop, so teal'c just removed his jacket, thats all.. :P
Well i planed to do them in various poses, as the game will requer, as of your character , they look good, but Jack O'neall has different hair style and longer forehead, as for Danny boy he has different hairy style too, carter eyes look a bti big to me and looks like he is squinting (i found last word in the dictionary, i hope i got the right one :D) But are still good characters , they look more odd, i was planing in the game that they will meet themself in the paralel universe, so paralel charaters can be like that, you draw.. I will think about it..
EDIT:
here is Jack's walking anim...:
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/walk1.gif)
(http://img205.exs.cx/img205/9867/sg6ek.png)
I think the sideview of the head gives a very "flat" impression. Maybe the backhead could do with another row of pixels?
As for the walkcycle there's a little limp impression (due to more swinging of the right arm than the left, not unlike my granddad). Also, at some point the toes should point upward. Maybe he could stretch the legs more forward? His ass seems to drop dramatically at one point (at the same point of time, there's a gap appearing in front), but that only takes minor adjustments to fix.
I fixed the head, it was kind of a flat :-\
And add more animation pictures, fix ass a bit.. there is still a little limping i think.. An old shoot wound ;D
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/walk2.gif)
his left foot. it looks like puts it behind the right leg when he's about to lift the left foot again
yes it does, i think that gives the effect that he is actualy moving, as ithe body is always in the same place,. Well i will see how it looks in the game, will be fixed if necessary..
To get rid of the "limp", there must be an even number of frames, with each foot's movement (from front to back) symmetrical in distance.
EX: 4 frames left foot taking a step (while right is going back) + 4 frames right foot taking a step (while left is going back).
I wish I could illustrate my examples here, but alas, I cannot save as animated gif...
Yes, u draw 8 frames for closer leg and 8 for "darker" leg, 16... So i think that should't be the problem
To me it looks like the feet land on the same horizontal plane, which is fine, but the knees don't line up. The Leg in back has a lower knee So it looks like the front leg is lifted higher during its step.
The right leg sits in the same position (on ground) for two frames. Will result in Michael Jackson type of movement.
Quote from: jrl2222 on Fri 04/02/2005 19:28:38
To me it looks like the feet land on the same horizontal plane, which is fine, but the knees don't line up. The Leg in back has a lower knee So it looks like the front leg is lifted higher during its step.
Yes you are right, i will try to fix that..
Quote from: Neil Dnuma on Fri 04/02/2005 20:10:31
The right leg sits in the same position (on ground) for two frames. Will result in Michael Jackson type of movement.
Hehe, i know what you mean... Still i will wait until i get it to the game, we'll see... Anything can be fixet... :D
...............
In the mean time, here is the front walk, yes arms are still strange a bit..
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/walk9.gif)
Not bad but he is sliding accross the floor, his feet should lift so you should be able to see the bottom of his foot. Example
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/examplesam.JPG) Perhaps you should study other adventure games to see how it's done.
With your front walk animation, it looks as if the guy is wiggling his arms instead of swinging them back and forth. Also, the guy's head looks oddly static as the rest of his body is moving quite vividly, yet the neck and head aren't.
I suggest you add a one pixel bounce to his walk to get rid of the staticness of the head, and straighten out his arms and hands (as they're both a bit too much curved). You could also tone down his chest-swinging.
Your walkcycles seem a bit... insufficient. The movements are quite small, almost timid. The result is that it looks anonymous: Yeah, the character is moving forward, but he's not expressing anything with his walk. There's no body language (he's maybe prancing a bit in the side animation, but I think that's unintended).
In animation, so I'm told (http://maniacco.tripod.com/tutorials.htm), exaggeration is the key. Make your characters act any time they move. Should this guy take bold, confident strides? Should he be almost marching, military fashion? Should he limp from an old wound? I don't know, I don't watch the show. I assume you do.
Your animation looks very good, and I think if you make it more dynamic and get some more personality in there, it will be really great. I'd just hate to see you spend time cleaning up a walkcycle that's fundamentally quite dull.
Quote from: Krazy on Sat 05/02/2005 01:21:44
Not bad but he is sliding accross the floor, his feet should lift so you should be able to see the bottom of his foot. Example
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/examplesam.JPG) Perhaps you should study other adventure games to see how it's done.
Yes i noticed that , i will make leg move more "up and down",,
Quote from: Dart on Sat 05/02/2005 02:34:14
With your front walk animation, it looks as if the guy is wiggling his arms instead of swinging them back and forth. Also, the guy's head looks oddly static as the rest of his body is moving quite vividly, yet the neck and head aren't.
I suggest you add a one pixel bounce to his walk to get rid of the staticness of the head, and straighten out his arms and hands (as they're both a bit too much curved). You could also tone down his chest-swinging.
Yes it is true, i will look into it..
Quote from: Snarky on Sat 05/02/2005 03:33:48
Your walkcycles seem a bit... insufficient. The movements are quite small, almost timid. The result is that it looks anonymous: Yeah, the character is moving forward, but he's not expressing anything with his walk. There's no body language (he's maybe prancing a bit in the side animation, but I think that's unintended).
In animation, so I'm told (http://maniacco.tripod.com/tutorials.htm), exaggeration is the key. Make your characters act any time they move. Should this guy take bold, confident strides? Should he be almost marching, military fashion? Should he limp from an old wound? I don't know, I don't watch the show. I assume you do.
Your animation looks very good, and I think if you make it more dynamic and get some more personality in there, it will be really great. I'd just hate to see you spend time cleaning up a walkcycle that's fundamentally quite dull.
I know what you mean, but i think that will still be the hardest thing to do. ...
OK, some more specific criticisms, then.
I would make the steps much, much longer. Currently in the side view when he puts down his foot, the heel is just barely in front of the toe of his other foot. Each step, he only moves the length of one foot forwards.
A normal step has about a foot's length separation between the front foot and the back foot, which is double the stride of your walkcycle. If the person is taking long steps or you want to exaggerate the animation, you could triple the length of each stride.
Your side walkcycle doesn't include frames for the point when the front leg is straight with the foot just touching the ground. You should always draw your character in the most extreme, most fully extended positions (the keyframes), because those define the movement and make your animations more dynamic.
A person walking normally does not keep his foot flat and put it down straight. The foot is kept perpendicular to the leg, so the toes point slightly up, and the heel is put down before the rest of the foot. (This is true even wearing boots. I just checked.) Have another look at the tutorial I linked to in my last post. This will be easier to do when you make the steps longer.
huh i have been fixing this "front walk" anim for whole day, just pixel here and ther... and it still doesnt look complete, i didnt touched the head yet..
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/walk98.gif)
Quote from: Snarky on Sat 05/02/2005 17:44:12
OK, some more specific criticisms, then.
I would make the steps much, much longer. Currently in the side view when he puts down his foot, the heel is just barely in front of the toe of his other foot. Each step, he only moves the length of one foot forwards.
A normal step has about a foot's length separation between the front foot and the back foot, which is double the stride of your walkcycle. If the person is taking long steps or you want to exaggerate the animation, you could triple the length of each stride.
Your side walkcycle doesn't include frames for the point when the front leg is straight with the foot just touching the ground. You should always draw your character in the most extreme, most fully extended positions (the keyframes), because those define the movement and make your animations more dynamic.
A person walking normally does not keep his foot flat and put it down straight. The foot is kept perpendicular to the leg, so the toes point slightly up, and the heel is put down before the rest of the foot. (This is true even wearing boots. I just checked.) Have another look at the tutorial I linked to in my last post. This will be easier to do when you make the steps longer.
I am on it, almost :-\ ...
Looking better but for some reason it looks like he's walking backwards, I think you should also be able to see a bit more of the bottom of his foot.
I think the biggest thing is his arms are glued to his side.
Hmm
Quote from: Krazy on Sun 06/02/2005 01:41:06
Looking better but for some reason it looks like he's walking backwards, I think you should also be able to see a bit more of the bottom of his foot.
hmm doesn't seems to me that he is walking backward, i will see what a can do with "bottom foot" :)
Quote from: jrl2222 on Sun 06/02/2005 06:15:41
I think the biggest thing is his arms are glued to his side.
Yeah i know what you mean, but do you think that is the problem? I actualy didn't noticed much, and it doesn't bother me.. hmm
EDIT:
Here is sidewalk...
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/walk202.gif)
EDIT 2 :
"Up" Walk
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/walk205.gif)
I think it's awesome that you're being so patient with this animation. That's definitely the way to improve. And it's much improved from a few days ago.
I agree with Snarky about the stride length. He looks like he's taking little baby steps right now.
In the side view, I think you've done a pretty good job with the upper body and arms. He looks to me like he's leaning back a bit too far.
In the walk up view (and down) I agree with jrl2222. It looks like he isn't moving his arms, just rotating his body left and right. I think it would help if you unglued his arms from his sides. Also his buttocks are too well defined!
here is a short animation, not from the game, just joke..
it is Xvid video file... 450 kb
http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/tommygot3.avi
ok i tried to fix important stuff, i guess ;D
There are mistakes, somethimes i think for walk up looks like he is walking backwards :D, don't know why, but we will se in game..
This will be the final animations:
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/walkside1.gif)
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/walkdown1.gif)
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/walkup1.gif)
hm... the upwards animation is slower than the downwards one
haddas, you forget the effects of gravity
yes, but that would not be the problem,, walk down has less frames than walk up, if it will be necesary i will remove them to match...
Gravity ?
Quote from: Zooty on Mon 07/02/2005 17:31:45
haddas, you forget the effects of gravity
Oh yes, silly me. It's a lot harder to walk upwards. With the air resistance and all
It's starting to look really good, I just think the hands need to move alot more and I think his butt shouldn't stay the same in more than 1 frame it seems sort of odd that the rest of his leggs are moving but his bum just sorta stays still.
yeah his arse does seem a bit TOO visable... (not that I was looking ;| )
piece of the gate, for my menu screen , not complete...
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/stargate.gif)
Will the menu option be scrollable, and when you move up and down, so does the gate, and when you select a menu option, the v on the gate locks on to whatever symbol its currently above/to its side?
That'd rock.Ã, Oh, and thats a beautiful rendition of the gate.
hey..great suggestion, i will try to make that ...
you know if this is a parody. the butt, ( though very disterbing :o ) FITS, it makes hime look very uptight and adds a laugh for the umm... earthier gamers ;D it make hime look like a tight-assed commander figure. now i havn't watched farsight cuz i use my freetime to surf internet and work on ags, but it is kind of funny it makes him look like he is walking with a wedgee. and that fits the sorta tiptoe walk .
here is face of the Jack, for intro screen...
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/multiheads.gif)
[referenčna slika ] (my languege ) - means the picture a was looking at, while drawing..
:o
that's slick, man! Can you post the animation of that (I wanna see it hehe)?
As for crits, everything looks pretty spot on, except for maybe the eyes.
Looks cool, reminds me alot of BASS.
Can't say I watch any of the Stargate series (very much enjoyed the movie, though), but if you're putting this much work into making this stuff look good, maybe it might be worth considering making a more serious fangame based on the series, possibly as a seperate project. The graphics just seem pretty well-done, and using them soley for a parody almost seems a shame, IMO.
"Sam" Carter...
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/multiheads2.gif)
I think I'll stop watching this thread because I get more depressed every time I look at something new drawn by Sektor 13...
THAT'S AWESOME!!!!
i will try do make Daniel and Tealc tommorow...
Quote from: Ozwalled on Thu 10/02/2005 06:31:37
Can't say I watch any of the Stargate series (very much enjoyed the movie, though), but if you're putting this much work into making this stuff look good, maybe it might be worth considering making a more serious fangame based on the series, possibly as a seperate project. The graphics just seem pretty well-done, and using them soley for a parody almost seems a shame, IMO.
yes i am thinking of that, maybe a will make more "real", but keep humor that is in series...
I think a stargate game would be exceelent. The series has comedy elements anyway and sometimes acts very much like an adventure game. However, a slight crit on your sam close up, she looks very tired under her eyes, maybe tone down that colour a bit.
Daniel...
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/danny.gif)
Simply astounding.
Teal'c....
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/tealk.gif)
I don't think Teal'c's face is right in that last one, speaking as one of the series' best fans IMO. The eyes seem too small. Its nice work, but all the characters seem to be too 'narrow', so to speak. The faces seem squashed a little. Daniel is great though.
Of course, watch out, MGM has shut down SG1 fangames before (a mod for Half Life).
I agreed before that Sam seemed too boyish, she really does have a nice rack (chest in case you didn't know)
Quote from: Hollister Man on Fri 11/02/2005 23:10:40
I don't think Teal'c's face is right in that last one, speaking as one of the series' best fans IMO. The eyes seem too small. Its nice work, but all the characters seem to be too 'narrow', so to speak. The faces seem squashed a little. Daniel is great though.
Of course, watch out, MGM has shut down SG1 fangames before (a mod for Half Life).
I agreed before that Sam seemed too boyish, she really does have a nice rack (chest in case you didn't know)
Yes i know, she is to boyish, i will try to fix her.
Well Teal'c eye are small :D as his face is very big , i can use more shadowing to remove squish effect...
I think the main problem of Teal'c's face is that the eyes are too high. Usually the eyes should be in the centre of the face meaning that the space between eyes and chin and eyes and top of the head should be more or less the same.
The other characters look great though. Can't wait till this is finished!
menu, not final, just experimenting..
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/menu256.gif)
Thats brilliant, the uniforms look realistic for crying out loud. Keep it up.
As nice as that is (and it IS awesome), I was fiddling around with the colours of it a bit and (although I know you're using a 256 colour palette) I though I might be so bold as to suggest that you tint the thing a slightly yellowish green. I thought it really brought the red of the stargate thingee out a lot better and covered up the glaring lightness of the whites of their eyes.
Okay, so I can't figure out the steps I took to get the colours to the point I did there, but I think you're getting where I'm going anyway. Ignore the added bluriness and graininess. I was just toying with it some.
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/sg_oz.png)
EDIT: OMG. Is that wheel going to spin when you go to different options? That would be so freakin' cool it wouldn't even be funny.
I will try different tint and see if it is better, as for moving wheel, i will try to make it spin, but there is one small problem, lower part of cheverons (that part, that moves in movie) is thes same lenght as upper, if you watch close, but i will try to do sometnihg.. :D
I think the original colours are fine - better than that greenish muck anyway :=
Eyes are supposed to draw your attention so it doesn't matter if they are obvious.
Looking good!
I made a tiny paintover. The only changes are to the eyes of the woman, and the eyes, nose and mouth of that guy who played MacGuyver.
(http://members.lycos.co.uk/snarkibartfast/menu2.gif)
Those wrinkles under the eyes are tricky. They're undeniably there, but if you draw them it makes people seem old, tired and ugly.
thanx sharky i repainted my pic.
here is my first background, no completed...
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/mount1.gif)
I dont like how they stand, when i stand, i try to be in a comfortable position, they look like they are saluting someone, make them a little comfortable
EDIT
whops, i was going to post at an old picture you had posted on page 1, i totally forgot that this was 4 page long :p please delete this post, thanks you :)
wow, that cheyanne mountain shot is awesome, although more detail needs to be put on the archaway (i guess thats the unfinished part) awome work man. alos, some trucks and things would be nice as in the series there is always trucks out side.
shit, great background! At first i thought you had simply painted a brown archway onto a real photo. So yeah, more detail on the arch. ;)
new material :D
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/a1.gif)
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/a2.gif)
(http://users.volja.net/zagar41/klemen/a3.gif)
Something seems wrong with the sleeve of the person with their back to us.
The texturing on the green jackets from the top screenshot make them look like rocks (especially the wrinkles). Also, the proportions are very off (upper arms are too short/thin, midriff too wide, etc.) and their heads seem pasted on at a different angle than their posture might suggest.
I'd recommend drawing from photo references and focusing on the composition rather than the fiddly details. Remember, when you draw it, you're zoomed in about 95%+ of the time. The person playing your game will never see your image zoomed in, so you should make it look best at full size.
Quote from: Babar on Wed 02/03/2005 11:40:04
Something seems wrong with the sleeve of the person with their back to us.
What exactly ? Maybe it is too small ?
Quote from: big brother on Wed 02/03/2005 15:07:24
The texturing on the green jackets from the top screenshot make them look like rocks (especially the wrinkles). Also, the proportions are very off (upper arms are too short/thin, midriff too wide, etc.) and their heads seem pasted on at a different angle than their posture might suggest.
I'd recommend drawing from photo references and focusing on the composition rather than the fiddly details. Remember, when you draw it, you're zoomed in about 95%+ of the time. The person playing your game will never see your image zoomed in, so you should make it look best at full size.
Hmm jackets doesn't look "Stonish" to me. As for heads you are right.
Well person who will play will see picture zoomed, as this one is 320,240, but on screen gets resized to 640x480 or a little blury in 320 x 240, but still in full screen. So it is noticable .
This looks amazing! I used to watch Stargate a lot, so this is totally cool.
I wis I could do sprites the way you do...
Babar is right about that arm, its too thin.
The monitors in the gate room are too thin, they look flat, alo change one of the displays s that is shows the dialing program, or something different as currently they re both the same. the shirt texture lloks good except the creases on daniels (?) back look like gashes instead of creases.
Quote from: Zooty on Thu 03/03/2005 17:09:39
The monitors in the gate room are too thin, they look flat, alo change one of the displays s that is shows the dialing program, or something different as currently they re both the same. the shirt texture lloks good except the creases on daniels (?) back look like gashes instead of creases.
How do you mean to thin, they are LCD display, they are thin and flat :D and as i was looking picture, from SG-1 both monitors face directly to the camera, so you can't see side of monitor, as for display, yes i know they both show sam thing.. i will see what i can do..
P.S - Arm is fixed, bit thicker :D
nono, didn't mean that. i meant they don't look as 3d as the rest of the background, maybe give them a bit more detail. or, make them a bit thicker, to me they look clearly panted on instead of integrated.
they need proper shadowing.... that normaly the problem why object looks " i am not from this picture" style :D
This art work is simply amazing, Im speechless. 8)
I like Sar Trek more than StarGate, but I did watch the movies, and they all seem a little... Pale and Shrivelled.
Other than that, you've got to give credit to MGM in the Stargate opening, the actors etc. Hope to see it around sometime.
i like star trek too...