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Title: The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Gregjazz on Sat 30/08/2003 06:04:10
Here's the new model for the main character in The Find. We wanted to keep the cartoony look and since he's 3D, we can have pretty smooth animation. (and 8 angles, too)

Tell me what you guys think.

(http://www.sonic.net/~schlae/herculeaneffort/percy3d.jpg)
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Mats Berglinn on Sat 30/08/2003 07:51:05
Very nice cell-shading. However, I don't like the way you made his eyes, lip and eye-browns. Somehow it really unnerves me. Otherwise, it's great.
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: auhsor on Sat 30/08/2003 07:58:27
I love it, but the lips annoy me too
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: 12431 on Sat 30/08/2003 09:07:23
I love the broken swordstyle
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Nacho on Sat 30/08/2003 09:40:02
He really seems a "Goodsoup" Do you remember Monkey Island 3? he... I think that his face should be more sweet if he is going to be the main character. It is just a matter of "nostalgia"... In the real world good guys can have all kind of faces, but in the adventure game world, the main character must be handsome.  IMO.
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Vel on Sat 30/08/2003 10:27:17
Great! The style reminds me of Runaway. The only bad thing I can point out is that the hair seems a bit too blocky.
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Igor on Sat 30/08/2003 10:55:07
Looking absolutely great! As Vel mentioned, kind of Runaway style. Love it.
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: YOke on Sat 30/08/2003 10:56:09
Looks fantastic!
But as people have said: lips and eyebrows.
Maybe some thinner lips and some thinner, arched eyebrows would do the trick...
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Gregjazz on Sat 30/08/2003 22:23:07
Thanks for the suggestions.

Handsome, eh, Farlander? Percy has some differences from a "generic" character that give him personality. The eyebrows are thick on purpose, but I can see where we should shape them a little. We're also going to put a dark line where his mouth should be to be consistent with the style. We're going to make the stripes on his jacket gray instead of white.

Here's his original concept design:

(http://www.sonic.net/~schlae/herculeaneffort/TFshot2b.jpg)

This is his "in-game" model. For cutscenes (especially ones that feature close-ups), we'll make a more detailed version.

Unlike the character animation in Broken Sword, Percy will move quickly as well as smoothly. (I hate sluggish walking, no matter how good it looks. You know, you click to move somewhere and the character shifts, picks his nose, then saunters across the room. Gets annoying fast.)
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Nacho on Sat 30/08/2003 22:50:12
Man... I really understand your problem... You´re trying to make a character with some personality and suddenly appears a guy who tolds you to keep it in the standard style... Don´t mind me, keep with the good work!  :)

I was talking just of a matter with the design... but now I see that the conversion you made from 2-d to 3-d is perfect, so... I have nothing to say.  I like to do the main character in the very aspect of the "blue prince", you know? :)
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: noed on Sun 31/08/2003 00:18:47
This may not help you much, but I have to say you did a great job making a 3-d character keep his cartoony feel! ;)
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Archangel (aka SoupDragon) on Sun 31/08/2003 00:24:00
Wow! That is absolutely perfect, except for one thing... please, please change his lips, they're giving me nightmares and I'm still awake! But otherwise, fantastic work, this is going to look absolutely awesome in a game!
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: big brother on Sun 31/08/2003 01:20:43
the lips.....the lips....

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Seriously, I think they will look better once we give him a dark line for a mouth (the upper lip is the one that bugs y'all, right?). We'll try some different things and post another version in this thread soon.

Ian
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Scummbuddy on Sun 31/08/2003 04:34:28
I dunno... he seems perfect to me.  Especially if its how the creator wants it.  It really really looks great!  I can't really say how much I like this style.  It reminds me a lot of the new Spiderman series on MTV.

Keep up the great work!  I can't wait to see more!   And if you want to go ahead and write a tutorial on how you made this character, it would be much appreciated!
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Minimi on Sun 31/08/2003 07:49:09
and just to follow scummy.... I also love this style! Nice 3D character! And very nice drawn!! I like everything about him! Go Scummy Go!!
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: OneThinkingGal and ._. on Sun 31/08/2003 15:10:47
Nice work! I usually don't like 3d stuff, mainly because of lack of detail, but this looks great.
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Gregjazz on Sun 31/08/2003 20:31:23
Me write an art tutorial? Oh my!
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: 12431 on Sun 31/08/2003 20:44:41
maybe he would be more "handsome" if you make his lips smaller. that's all I've got to add. can't say why i do that. you won't make him different now...
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Flippy_D on Sun 31/08/2003 22:11:15
Do I detect a heavy influence from Ubi Soft's 'XIII'? I looks good, highly characterised. Well chosen colours and very stylish.
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Pesty on Mon 01/09/2003 07:29:53
This is really good. I love the 3d-with-cel-shading style and you guys do it well.

And I think his lips and eyebrows are great. They give him character.
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: MrColossal on Mon 01/09/2003 07:37:11
very nice, do the cuffs on his pant legs shift around on his shoes? for standing straight that is

and i like the face just fine, the lips are his lips and that's how they are

keep on rockin' in a free world

eric
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: remixor on Mon 01/09/2003 08:43:50
Looks great!  I see the comparison to XIII as well, but I think that's mainly because of the cell-shading.

The only negatives I could think of have already been mentioned (lips, eyebrows); I can't think of anything else that's not perfect about it.
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Erwin_Br on Mon 01/09/2003 11:54:41
Wow, great work.

I don't see anything wrong with his lips, I think they're doing a great job expressing the characters personality and/or mood.

The eyebrows could perhaps be improved with more curves though, like you did in the concept image.

I'm looking forward to seeing some backgrounds! I'm sure they'll gonna rock.

--Erwin
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: foz on Mon 01/09/2003 21:11:48
...your character graphics are better than most  i`ve seen ....including my own......so keep up the good work and make the scripting as good.....with graphics like that you need to make every element of the game pucker.......
need any help i`m good at scripting also gui stuff......give me a
shout....
You can see a sample of my work at.....

http://www.incarelectrics.co.uk/game.html

FOZ
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Gregjazz on Tue 02/09/2003 02:52:07
Thanks for the advice. I will definitely work on the curves of the eyebrows.

I've made a few other changes, also.

Anyways,

Geoffkhan
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Scummbuddy on Fri 12/09/2003 22:58:30
*cough* Where's that tutorial?!? *cough*  ;D
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: big brother on Sat 13/09/2003 20:39:46
Gregor, you should post the latest version of Percy (without the mesh and flat shaded models behind him). I wanna see it, too!
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Gregjazz on Mon 15/09/2003 02:38:49
Awww, but I'm so lazy right now! Just kidding. Sure thing, bro.

Here's the latest Percy picture:

(http://www.sonic.net/~schlae/herculeaneffort/percy3d3.jpg)

Sorry about the delay -- I've just been so busy lately.
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Scummbuddy on Mon 15/09/2003 07:17:49
Inside the heart of that man, beats the heart of a really really large man... I mean, just check out that shadow....


Seriously, at least what program are you using and techniques.  I'd really like to see a tutorial if you had some free time for just this character.
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: big brother on Mon 15/09/2003 07:25:56
Thanks, bro, for the updated pic. Did you fix the eyebrows? Can't really tell from this angle....
Title: Re:The Find: The new Percy
Post by: Gregjazz on Mon 15/09/2003 22:16:44
Yeah, actually, I aligned them to the sketch. I'll check on them again, anyways.

Scummbuddy, the reason there's those shadows is because the light is above Percy. I was much to lazy to move the light to a better angle. Hey, I barely got the picture uploaded without going unconscious from the exhaustion. :)