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Title: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: DanClarke on Thu 13/05/2004 21:45:40
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/screen2.jpg)

the tree is 'non negotiable' as i'm fond of it, just want to know what everybody thinks?

Edit by Andail: fixed image link
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Thu 13/05/2004 21:49:55
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/screen2.jpg)

I like it!

I think the coloring of the character looks pretty good and blends in with the background well (considering the lighting I mean)

Do you have any animations of the young girl yet?

This game is going to be cool!
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: DanClarke on Thu 13/05/2004 21:52:32
Cheers, im working on the animation at the moment, just testing really, i want to get most of the backdrops done, then i can concentrate on the rest.  ;D
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: Evil on Thu 13/05/2004 22:11:15
The contrast is still way to low. Kick it up a bit and it'll look great!
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: DanClarke on Thu 13/05/2004 22:17:19
i think it varies depending on monitors, ive already put it up once. Does anybody else have this problem with contrast?
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: LordHart on Thu 13/05/2004 22:35:31
Nice, but I'm guessing its a jpg file... so thats why it is getting kinda pixelated on the edges of objects. :(
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: Relight on Fri 14/05/2004 04:19:50
Quote from: DanClarke on Thu 13/05/2004 22:17:19

Ã,  Ã,  Ã, i think it varies depending on monitors, ive already put it up once. Does anybody else have this problem with contrast?


I know it's a pain in the you-know-what, stupid monitors... For me, and I finally found an old monitor that seems just about perfect, the brightness is just fine - but the contrast could be increased a bit more.

Very nice image and stuff.
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: DanClarke on Fri 14/05/2004 09:56:53
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/screen2.png)

i may have overdone it a touch lol.
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: Synthetique on Fri 14/05/2004 10:55:33
i'd go with the old contrast... you shouldn't listen to people who only can say "CONTRAST" as C&C.. if it looks good to you, it looks good. and it looks good. to me that is.
remember that the pic will be fullscreen, maybe with black around it. it'll look nice..
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: Peter Thomas on Fri 14/05/2004 10:59:31
I love it. especially the tree. That is just THE dang finest tree I've seen in a while.

Though I prefer the lighting in the original. I think the 'blue-iness' of it is great!

Show us some more backgrounds as soon as you finish them :)
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: DanClarke on Fri 14/05/2004 13:44:25
thanks again for the feedback, i too prefer the original, as the newer screen looks oversaturated.
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: Proskrito on Fri 14/05/2004 14:57:16
the only thing that looks a bit strange to me is that all the background is made with blue hues. Its very moody this way, and it would look perfect for me if i were looking to the background alone, but the character is just a bit tinted.
I mean, the girls boots could be the same colour as the tree trunk, but boots are brown tinted with blue, and trunk is all blue. I hope i made sense.
Also, i think you could add depth if the sky were darker.
Overall, its an excellent image!! : ) i love your style.
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: Phemar on Fri 14/05/2004 15:07:21

TOO MUCH BLUE!

Seriously though, that hurts my eyes.
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: on Fri 14/05/2004 15:22:33
Night scenes are supposed to have lots of blue. :P
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: DanClarke on Fri 14/05/2004 16:20:21
Quote from: Zor© on Fri 14/05/2004 15:07:21

TOO MUCH BLUE!

Seriously though, that hurts my eyes.

im guessing you never got through part one of monkey island then  ;)
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: Relight on Fri 14/05/2004 20:53:40
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Ã,  Ã,  Ã, i'd go with the old contrast... you shouldn't listen to people who only can say "CONTRAST" as C&C


Well that's what the current discussion was about, so I thought I'd offer my completely subjective experience with monitors.

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Ã,  Ã,  Ã, as the newer screen looks oversaturated.


Then again it depends on the style you are going for. A cartoon-type style has very vivid, saturated colors.
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: DanClarke on Fri 14/05/2004 21:27:06
Quote from: Relight on Fri 14/05/2004 20:53:40
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Ã,  Ã,  Ã, i'd go with the old contrast... you shouldn't listen to people who only can say "CONTRAST" as C&C


Well that's what the current discussion was about, so I thought I'd offer my completely subjective experience with monitors.

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Ã,  Ã,  Ã, as the newer screen looks oversaturated.


Then again it depends on the style you are going for. A cartoon-type style has very vivid, saturated colors.

i know what you mean about the monitors, its just that contrasts on monitors vary. As for the contrast on the image, i think ill be keeping the original, as i feel to much contrast will overdo the image. It is a cartoony style, but it's not necessarily brash and bright colours through and through.
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: Evil on Fri 14/05/2004 21:38:40
I dont think its over contrasted. I like the new one much more. Theres still the issue of the tree roots not sticking out far enough. But it would be great if you left it as is.
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: loominous on Sat 15/05/2004 05:27:37
Quick modifications:

x2
(http://w1.872.telia.com/~u87210460/AGS/screen2_mod1.gif)

(i) Lowered the saturation.

(ii) Tinted the pic to a more cyan/turquoise hue. Just a matter of taste, blueish will make it more MI1 - 2, more cyan/turquoise CMI-EFMI.

(iii) Added shadows to give more depth and make the lighting more interesting. The tree was very 2D, with only shadows and highlights on the edges.

(iv) Added a gradiant in the sky, making the upper part darker (skys tend to be lightest at the horizon).

(v) Added reflection in water.

Quotei'd go with the old contrast... you shouldn't listen to people who only can say "CONTRAST" as C&C

Most beginners pic's have too low contrast, so if the comment keeps popping up, it s because it s a common fault. (not calling DC a beginner of course, since he s obviously very skilled.)

It is important to always lower the saturation once the contrast has been upped though, otherwise the colors will bleed.

Btw, your style s most excellent.
Title: Re: TLOTLL: *New Background*
Post by: DanClarke on Sat 15/05/2004 09:14:25
Hey loominous, looks nice, i think ill go with your idea of shadow though. I want to keep the blue theme too. As for the reflection, i had drawn this in, but seeing as i was going to animate it seperately i didnt include it in this particular shot. Thanks for the help though  ;)