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Title: TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: DanClarke on Wed 14/04/2004 18:35:39
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/hallunfinished2_copy.jpg)

Ill finish it tonight, and put up an explanation of where it is etc. Feel free to comment.
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: ElectricMonk on Wed 14/04/2004 18:50:50
Could you post a larger version (maybe scaled x2) please? Love the shading so far, but some of the details are lost on a high resolution monitor with that tiny image size.
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: on Wed 14/04/2004 18:51:11
Whoa, it looks like a high-res version of that room outside of the office in Sam & Max Hit the Road. :P

Very nice work.
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: jaz on Wed 14/04/2004 18:52:13
I dare to say that it's excellent even though it's still unfinished!Just fill it up with stuff and keep on doing a great job. I do especially like the lights and shadows. Oh maybe png would be better choice.
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: YOke on Wed 14/04/2004 19:11:06
As I said before: SWEET!!!
The lighting is spectacular!

In short: You ROCK!!! :)
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: DanClarke on Wed 14/04/2004 20:40:33
Thanks for the comments so far guys, as requested:

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/hallunfinished2.jpg)

@200%

Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: Scummbuddy on Wed 14/04/2004 21:36:54
I'd like to know how you get such amazing work done, and be on the forums all day? Then go back in time 4 years and tell me how.
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: ElectricMonk on Wed 14/04/2004 23:02:51
YOke said it. Spectacularrrr.
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: Dart on Wed 14/04/2004 23:07:10
...you call THAT unfinished?

Love the lightning, love the shadows...

I wouldn't change a thing.
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: DanClarke on Wed 14/04/2004 23:25:34
wow thanks everybody, i'm glad you like it, i guess it helps you get a taste of how the game will look, seeing as you've seen a few of the characters too.   :)

Dart- Trust me it will look better when it's finished  ;)
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: Pet Terry on Wed 14/04/2004 23:27:01
Wow indeed, your graphics skills are as good as Cornjob's or Pessi's!
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: DanClarke on Thu 15/04/2004 01:49:57
(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/baboonhallx2.jpg)

This is pretty much the finished article, there are a few little bits that i'll tweak, but this is finished overall,happy with it, i wanted a dark light setting. ;D
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: Scummbuddy on Thu 15/04/2004 01:57:33
Can I be the first to ask for you to do a tutorial for us?  Many steps would be great!
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: DanClarke on Thu 15/04/2004 02:20:53
Quote from: Scummbuddy on Thu 15/04/2004 01:57:33
Can I be the first to ask for you to do a tutorial for us?  Many steps would be great!

I'm guessing you mean just going through this drawing as i did it step by step? I'd be happy to, although i hope some people will give me help on the technical side of things when i come to that part  ;D
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: James Kay on Thu 15/04/2004 02:25:33
First: Great!

Second: some crits.
The only thing that bothers me is the light line at the foot of the door in the back. The way the scene works now is that the player's attention is forced onto the red door to the right. However, this one little line forces the eye back to the left.
If that is a space under the door and there is a light behind it, I'd expect the floorboards to be lit up a little. If it is nothing, I suggest painting it away/making it greyer, darker.

I presume the door to the right is the important one. Very nicely framed. I love how the light and the very light glint on the doorknob just focus your attention there! All hand-drawn? Which program did you use?
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: Scummbuddy on Thu 15/04/2004 02:35:29
Take a look at Miez's background tutorial for some basic ideas on setting it up, if you have the time. I can definitly speak for a majority here saying we'd like a glimpse into your talent.
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: Hollister Man on Thu 15/04/2004 02:59:49
It looks 3d rendered to me, but that is not bad at all!

Regardless of 2D or 3D, one has to have a good feel for the composition.  You didn't make the noob mistake of setting the camera dead center in the rear wall, and yet everything fits nicely too.

Good job
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: MrColossal on Thu 15/04/2004 03:29:26
are there supposed to be no posts under the railing that goes down the stairs?

also, amazing background

too bad the character couldn't cast a shadow on the wall where the light is coming in from...
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: James Kay on Thu 15/04/2004 03:34:12
Quote from: MrColossal on Thu 15/04/2004 03:29:26
too bad the character couldn't cast a shadow on the wall where the light is coming in from...

Hmm....could be done with some labour-intensive and extremely clever character views, I guess....
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: MrColossal on Thu 15/04/2004 03:40:42
as far as i thought about it it would be very very very hard unless you were ok with the character's shadow darkening the cross bar's shadow, then it would just be very very hard.
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: DanClarke on Thu 15/04/2004 10:58:07
Thaks everybody, ill try and clear some of this up for you:

The glow under the door on the back wall is the glow of a TV set, thats why it's so bright. This is meant to be the 'less important' door, that's why i placed it on the darker wall but i see what you mean.

As for the railing, i only thought about this one last night, im going to add a post at the top of the stairs, then add a sort of 'bracket' that fixes the bannister to the wall. Thanks for pointing that out though.

To clear it up, the drawing was done completely in Photoshop, no 3D at all. I have no experience with 3D packages.

expect a 'revised' version at some point today.

;)

Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: Davis on Thu 15/04/2004 16:47:21
Yeah when I saw the line of blue underneath the door it made me feel like there was some kind of glowing machinery on the other side.

When you say totally in PS, do you mean even the rough draft, or did you sketch something by hand, scan it, and then go over it in PS? Or do you use a wacom?
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: DanClarke on Thu 15/04/2004 17:01:57
Quote from: Davis on Thu 15/04/2004 16:47:21
Yeah when I saw the line of blue underneath the door it made me feel like there was some kind of glowing machinery on the other side.

When you say totally in PS, do you mean even the rough draft, or did you sketch something by hand, scan it, and then go over it in PS? Or do you use a wacom?

This one was done from start to finish in photoshop, no scanning. i try to make a few rouch copies, 1 with a rough black and white 'painting' that helps me get an idea of where the light will be, then another with straight linesso i have some boundaries for walls etc. Ill post them up tonight, so you can have an idea of what i mean.I think some of my future BGs will be done partially by hand then scanned, more for time saving reasons than anything.

It was all done with a mouse, no Wacom involved.  :)
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: Davis on Thu 15/04/2004 21:09:28
Are you serious? No wacom he says. Dude, that's awesome. That is one good looking BG. And I've slept with enough drunken ex-runway model BGs to know.
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: DanClarke on Thu 15/04/2004 23:36:12
Quote from: Davis on Thu 15/04/2004 21:09:28
Are you serious? No wacom he says. Dude, that's awesome. That is one good looking BG. And I've slept with enough drunken ex-runway model BGs to know.

lol thanks very much :)

I've been drawing with a mouse for a few years now, so i guess its kinda just like drawing for me.

(http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/hallreference_copy.jpg)

Here's the 2 rough images i used to start. The first is the frame in red, drawn on a layer in photoshop. I know it looks like a wireframe but i assure you these are just ruler lines.

The second one is the black and white image you see underneath, this was an idea i had to help me out on how the lighting would look, thats just a large white brush with a low opacity done in steps over a black backdrop.

I know my finial image didnt look much like this one, it was more to get how i wanted the 'mood' to look.

sorry if its so confusing i think i need to read other tutorials and break it down better ;)
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: Iron Pirate on Fri 16/04/2004 00:47:34
It almost looks like 3d rendering, but at the same time, at 200% it's got this pixellated quality that makes me think of Day of the Tentacle. Great cartoony style, really fun to look at.

Semi-pixellated pseudo-3d-rendered DotT flashbacks. Now there's a style.
Title: Re:TLOTLL Background Unfinished *take a look*
Post by: DanClarke on Fri 16/04/2004 18:47:04
cheers, ive been inspired by the DOTT/SAmnMax style, you could say im a lucasfreak  :P ill have more to show as soon as it's done lol.